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Nomura: FFXV "Is A Final Fantasy" Before It's An Action Game

Feel better? I certainly don't, but maybe you do.

Amid a landslide of accusations that Final Fantasy XV (formerly Final Fantasy Versus XIII) wasn't really a role-playing game, game director Tetsuya Nomura has given us some encouraging information. Well, first he scared us and then he encouraged us.

According to a recent Yahoo! Japan interview (as cited by GamingBolt), Nomura addressed the issue at hand, saying that FFXV "is being presented as a 'Final Fantasy action game.'" Initially, they had intended to make it a pure action title:

"True, we did want to get rid of the UI, remove hit counters, restrict the playable character to Noct and so on. But if we did all it that it would become just another action game like all the others. The team is saying, ‘don’t forget this is Final Fantasy before it is an action game.’"

Nomura went on to say that FFXV is different from existing action games and shooters, in that you see the amount of damage you're inflicting, and there's also a party to consider. Party combat is the one saving grace for this game, in my eyes, but is anyone at all surprised that Square Enix originally wanted to make FFXV an out-and-out action game? Anyone at all? But here's an even more interesting question-

Why didn't they? What stopped them? That appeared to be the obvious next step to most fans, so...

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy XV

Tags: final fantasy xv, ffxv, final fantasy xv info, tetsuya nomura

6/26/2013 9:41:22 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (26 posts)

To Be Decided
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 10:45:46 PM
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Yea don't some shooters have mechanics were you can see the damage being done, adding the RPG elements for something. This almost feels the same way. "Yea go PURE ACTION DUDEBRO... add rpg elements so we can keep the name and SELL." Maybe not entirely like that but hell if you need to be reminded what genre your franchise is then it time to rethink what you are doing to the franchise. Could created a new franchise and call it Final Action or Final Fantasy Action or do that naming thing Kojima does, Final Fantasy: Action Style RPG or something.

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SayWord
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 10:46:15 PM
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I'm just lamenting the fact that I can't play this game right now. =( As soon as they announced versus 13 and seeing early gameplay footage I had a feeling this would be a winner. And as a gamer who has been playing Final Fantasy for 20+ years I am so excited about XV!

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Knightzane
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:01:22 PM
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This game is going to be so freaking amazing. Just hopefully there won't be a repeat business FF13. If this game ends up like ff13 im throwing in my gaming towel and never buying a new game again.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:05:07 PM

Why do you think this will be amazing? SE screwed us royally last gen.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:11:03 PM

Well we know one way it will be like XIII, they've already told us that XV won't be the whole game and will have sequels. So it's already on the way.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:17:17 PM

Ya...I miss the contained stories that only encompassed one game. I enjoyed looking forward to a new story, a new world, new characters, and new game mechanics that made things interesting but didn't completely screw up the winning formula.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:28:41 PM

Just another way Final Fantasy is no longer Final Fantasy.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:13:03 PM
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Fu** you Square-Enix, fu** your action, a**holes.

*Recomposes self* Anywho, I'll watch the reviews on this and probably won't buy it new unless it gets 9+ scores and I'm full of money when it releases in 2015.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/27/2013 12:58:15 AM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 12:51:39 PM

Sorry you had to moderate that outburst, I just can't take it anymore. I can't handle this mindset. It is the most aggravating thing I can think of. It bothers me beyond words. How can this mindset even be? There is absolutely no evidence that anybody wants them to go down the path Nomura mentioned above.

I know this is his game that was never meant to be a main entry but it's important to note that this kind of consideration is a continuance of a pattern of behavior that is inexplicable at best, hateful towards fans at worst.

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Amnesiac
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 11:47:02 PM
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Go ahead with an all out action FF game

make it a first person shooter

Have the main character be an anti hero with a mysterious past

Call it Dirge of Cerberus

oh thats right
you've already done that and it didn't work so well.

Does everyone at SE suffer from short term memory loss syndrome

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 1:01:07 AM

Dirge was a TPS but point taken.

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 12:23:07 AM
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I have no doubt it'll be a fantastic game. But here's my issue.

I've got a baby boy... I've got another one on the way (woot woot, it's tell everyone time!)... I'm spending free time networking and volunteering in the name of career advancement... and I guess I gotta be social once and a while... I just don't get to game as much as I -REALLY- want to! Back in the day, I'd have beaten Last of Us twice and platinumed it by now. I'm like... halfway or something.

My point is... there are a -LOT- of very well done action games out there. A lot.... many of which I -REALLY- want to play, but I know I'll never get to all of them. This could be a fantastic game, but it'll still be just another well done game among other well done games I may not get around to.

Final Fantasy titles used to be the types that would shut down all other gaming habits until it was finished and I stopped getting everything I could. When FFX HD comes out, that's exactly what will happen. I will shut down all other gaming activities until that's finished.

But if FFXV is another action game, how is that going to make me think, "wow... this is better than all other action games out there and I need this!"

Because, while I'm sure it'll be top notch... I have a hard time seeing it as something that will dominate the action/adventure genre like FF dominated the RPG's of old.

The series is becoming an "I'd like to play it if I get a chance" and becoming less like a "I need this. Period."

Sure... it'll be good. But... I dunno. There's a lot of other really great stuff coming too. And as an action game, it won't have the gameplay elements that drag me out of real life. And I really have to scrutinize... which games will I spend my limited gaming time on? I don't have enough time to experiment anymore. I need to know what I'm getting is going to be rewarding. A good example? Remember Me... a game I'd love to try despite reviews... but I'm not sold on the idea that I -WILL- love it... So I'm not buying at this point in time... Heck... Dishonored is still in it's shrink wrap... And that's no insult to Dishonored. But I think that illustrates my point.

But, I guess we'll have to see. Maybe I should wait for more details. But I dunno... I kinda feel like I already know what's coming.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 1:03:44 AM

I agree. Congrats btw. I especially agree on the point that there are plenty of great action games, and some of them you even definitely have to have, but FF was as you say a "shut down the rest of the world" game, now it's like "oh a lengthy action game that I can play 15 minutes at a time" and that's not what the series is about.

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Ultima
Friday, June 28, 2013 @ 6:27:35 PM

I hear you, U-Dog. I have two little ones of my own (4 yr old girl, 2 year old son), and a -third- one on the way. FF series I used to play in 12+ hour blocks, but I can't do that any more. In fact, I can't really sit down on one spot and play anything unless it's late at night when everyone else is asleep, and these days I'm usually asleep as well.

That's why I REALLY hope the Remote PLay between PS4 and Vita works properly. Cause that's probably the only way I'll be able to play most PS4 games. :|

As for FFXV's status... Well I'm glad they've confirmed some sort of party mechanic. I hope we can actually switch and use other characters fully. Anyway, this "considered making it all action" sounds like something really early. We all know it was going to use a KH-like engine, and KH is heavy on action, so a pure action variant wouldn't necessarily have been a bad thing. That said, scaling it back a bit to include more party stuff definitely gets a thumbs up from me.

Really, the most important thing isn't the genre of the game per se, but the quality.

Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't see a more advanced version of Crisis Core's engine (not counting Dissidia), which was turn-based masked as action.

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Akuma07
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 2:40:38 AM
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Hey guys, check out this one hour interview with Nomura-san. They talk about Kingdom Hearts and a bit of FFXV.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/60-minutes-of-tetsuya-nomura-talkin-bout-final-fantasy-xv-khiii/

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Gaming Prodigy
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 9:54:12 PM

thank you for that post! just finished watching. I am stoked for those games.
The remix...Ehhhhh. I have them for my PS2 still (still working btw) and have played some of them for the other systems. But im such a die hard KH fan ill buy it.

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___________
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 3:05:30 AM
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action game or RPG i really couldent care less!
im more interested and excited for the dark gritty story and world.
we have so many sunshine lollipops and rainbows hit the tops RPGs, its about f*cking time we saw something in a more SCIFI but dark gritty gone to hell universe!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 12:52:18 PM

You might be thrilled about it, but the Japanese gamers are not.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 3:05:35 AM
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Final Fantasy Versus XIII was an action RPG. There was no doubt or even any problems with that, as it was a side project from the main XIII series. Now it is taking the fifteenth numeral it is becoming a main title in the franchise so it's action elements are very important to the series as a whole. It could make a huge difference to how future FF titles will be.

Part of the reason Lighting Returns is not being taken seriously is due to the title ' Lighting Returns: Final Fantasy XIII'. Putting Lighting first makes it seem like a spin off much like 'Dirge of Cereberus: Final Fantasy VII'. But the problem with Lightning Returns is that it is trying to be 'Final Fantasy XIII-3' yet with all the gameplay changes it just doesn't feel like part of the XIII main series. Though of course it is the conclusion of the series, which is why I am having problems with is as it doesn't seem to live up to what a 'Final Fantasy XIII-3' should be.

But back to Final Fantasy XV. Going from spin off to main franchise is a challenging jump. One I think it will succeed at, but I fear what the future holds for the series. I have never been fond of FF's having sequels. Part of the beauty of the series was going from one fresh world to another. But now each story is just dragging on and loosing its competence as it does. While I want Final Fantasy XV, I don't want it to drag out to XV-2 or even XV-3. Before the Versus switch was announced, I was hoping XV would be something new and fresh, not a title we already knew about, as I really want to know where Square-Enix will be taking my favourite series next. But it looks like at this rate we wont be getting a 'Final Fantasy XVI' until 2020... and I am already impatient.

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daus26
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 4:31:06 AM
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Not sure what's up with the sudden negativity. Other than going multi-platform and the name change, this game is shaping up to be what we've expected for years now. I mean really, we saw some gameplay of how action it is over two years ago. It doesn't look anything different, and in fact, imo, even better. Teleportation ftw. It reminds me of Minato from Naruto.

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Bigimpactpooch
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 9:24:40 AM
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He made it work for Kingdom Hearts so I'm not doubting FFXV

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 1:27:27 PM

Its one thing to make a great game. But aren't you a little sad it means the loss of a genre? I see it as sure.... a good game. Maybe even great. But I'm still sad it replaces another type of game completely.

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xenris
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 10:27:02 AM
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As long as it has the mechanics that KH1 and 2 had I will be happy. Also I hope there is a good level of exploration to be had.

I'm more interested in this game for the world and the story anyway.

I find it funny that that was their first thought, when all of the pure action games made by square have been sub par. Dirge of Cerberus, Mushashi, Erhgeiz and I know there are more I'm forgetting.

Those games weren't bad but no one praised square for those titles, it was the traditional JRPG that they did so damn well.

I'm really surprised Ni No Kunis critical praise didn't slap square in the face and show them that it could work.

I have a feeling someone at square is still chasing the Call of Duty crowd and they haven't gotten the memo that it doesn't work.

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DrRockso87
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 11:16:23 AM
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I really don't see the problem. Yes, annoyed at Square-Enix this generation would be a complete understatement. They made a crapload of mistakes. They try to appeal to Western gamers to expand while paying lip service to many Japanese games. They focus on iPad/portable games than consoles. etc. I understand.

But here, I trust Nomura. From the start he ALWAYS said flat-out: "This will be a action-RPG". Then a gameplay trailer premiers and every JRPG-player screams betrayal. Huh?

Did anyone even do any resarch on the game? Nomura confirmed there will be a big world map (like the original games), an airship (like the original games), focus on crystals (like the original games), etc.

Hell, THREE of the people working on the game (Nomura, Kitase, and Nojima) worked on Final Fantasy VII, VIII, and X!

But I don't know. Again, I don't trust Square-Enix to deliver a good game. Like hell I'm purchasing Lightning Returns crap! But I trust Nomura. He's co-written/designed games I love (Final Fantasy VII), directed games I love (Kingdom Hearts), and has Hajime tabata helping (who worked on Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Type-0, which I heard is great).

So, yeah. Rant over. Consider me excited!

Edit: Also, anyone excited for Kingdom Hearts III but not this game... you do realize Kingdom Hearts III will be an "action game", right?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 11:23:59 AM

It doesn't bother you at all that he wanted to remove ALL RPG aspects and limit you to one player?

"True, we did want to get rid of the UI, remove hit counters, restrict the playable character to Noct and so on."


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Ultima
Friday, June 28, 2013 @ 6:30:23 PM

Then it would have been exactly like Kingdom Hearts, so no, that's not necessarily worrisome.

BUt I'm glad there's parties. Or something. I really wanna know more about that.

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