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Sony Talks PS4's Power And Microsoft's DRM "Take Back"

Sony's PlayStation 4 is a hot item right now, and there are multiple reasons for that.

SCE VP and managing director Fergal Gara addressed several of those reasons in recently speaking to TechRadar.

He says he's most proud of the fact that the PS4's design principles were "focused around the gamer first." That's why they have a platform that everyone, including developers, really seems to appreciate. It also helps that the price, coupled with the raw power, is very attractive. Gara says Sony believes they're bringing "the most powerful gaming device ever conceived" to market, and with a price tag of only $399, that's pretty impressive.

But what we like most about the interview is Gara's reaction to Microsoft's backtracking concerning used game DRM and the daily check-ins:

"Look, here's a phrase for you that someone I worked for once gave me which is, 'if you do things first you do it for your customer, if you do it second you do it for yourself'. What I'm most pleased with is that we've had an agenda for a long time now and all we've done is stick to our agenda. So it is tremendously rewarding that your agenda appeals to the people we most want to appeal to and that we don't have to change, we just keep focused, we keep going the way we were going for many many months and years now, certainly as we've clarified details we've changed not a thing."

That's precisely why so many haven't forgiven Microsoft. The bottom line is that they tipped their hand when the Xbox One was originally announced, and gamers aren't about to forget what they heard and saw. MS can reverse the policy all they want; the skepticism they created won't go away that easily, as they're starting to find out.

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, sony, microsoft, xbox one

7/6/2013 10:41:10 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (28 posts)

Jawknee
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 12:17:31 PM
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Indeed. A long time Xbox loving, PS3 hating friend of mine is still switching even after their flip flop.

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Kryten1029a
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 2:40:32 PM

I'm pretty much in the same boat as your friend. The only thing that the 180 did was to change my opinion from "never" to "someday". It certainly wasn't enough to make me cancel my PS4 pre-order.
I don't like the idea that they could change their minds and reverse course on DRM in the future, I hate the notion of having a camera spying on me (they say that you can disable it, but there's nothing to stop the NSA from making them switch it back on against my knowledge)and Microsoft's incredible arrogance has been pretty disgusting in general. I did get a good laugh though when it was announced that Don Mattrick was going to Zynga-they deserve no better!
All of the games that I want to play at or near launch are either multi-plat or PS4 exclusive anyway. Not only that but there's no good reason for me to pay a $100 premium for a less powerful machine. Microsoft may be holding on to the 360 fanboys, but those of us who were merely 360 FANS have been given a wakeup call and quite a few of us have responded.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 4:42:57 PM

Quite honestly I never understood the fascination with Xbox or any MS product for that matter. They have proven through the years to be a sleazy company who don't actually make good hardware/software. They got where they are by tearing down their competition using FUD tatics and monopolizing markets. Their Windows OS is crap, their hardware stinks, they love to control how you use their products and they have some of the most arrogant, sleaziest, obnoxious corporate heads of all of the industries they participate in. Voting with your wallet has always been my motto and after going halves with my former room mate on a launch 360 only to have it RROD after a few months and having to reformat every PC once a year and downloading a trillion updates for every OS of theirs I used, I said never again. It's all Apple, Sony and Nintendo for my tech wants and needs.

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CrusaderForever
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 8:38:14 PM

@Jawknee
Well said!!!

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 4:36:32 AM

Jawknee,

There were 2 highly popular reasons to own the 360, reasons that seemed to make the whole RROD, dashboard advertising and tons of other horrible features seem redundant:

1. Xbox Live was the premium online service and stayed that way for a good 3 or 4 years. Cross game chat, jumping into a friend's game at anytime, PSN soon caught up but during 2006, 2007 and 2008 the 360 was THE online console to own.

2. Halo. That franchise is stupidly popular, and it alone is the only reason my friends refuse to switch to Playstation. Halo is the only thing saving Microsoft, and MS know it.


After all this horrid PR mess that MS has called a console reveal, it's nice to see Sony finally getting the widespread appeal and recognition for their dedication to gamers.

Also, I only see Halo fans continuing to support the Xbox One. I was a definite no to Xbox One before the DRM removal, but now I fall into the "will eventually buy one day" category. PS4 first, Wii U next (when Mario Kart 8, Zelda, Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2 and other big exclusives start to come through) then maybe when the Xbox One drops in price due to desperation, I'll get one then.

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godsdream
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 12:18:03 PM
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Totally agree with last paragraph, and the fact that like Patcher and other have said, that 180 turn Microsoft did, may hit their customer pockets in the future.

Also that quote: 'if you do things first you do it for your customer, if you do it second you do it for yourself' it´s an instant classic for me. I´ve never heard of it but it makes all sense, it´s logic, and it´s true.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 12:39:34 PM
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He's right of course, but it shouldn't be much of a surprise. Every business that Microsoft has gotten involved and been successful in is one where they waited for the consumer-focused people to invent or offer something and then swooped in and spent all their money to destroy the competition so they could co-opt that market and manipulate it. They do it every damn time.

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White_Mocha
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:44:19 AM

Agreed. but get this: the 360 fanboys swear up and down that everyone copies M$ over at IGN.

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PC_Max
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 12:45:36 PM
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I think right now, visiting some Xbox forums, many maybe still upset with MS, but they are also thinking MS listened to them in the end. One might say the had to, they were forced to, from a business stand point. The 180 I think upset many who want things to go digital, not just the debs, but some reviewers. I agree with them, but MS approach was not the best approach. Gradually, which Sony seems to doing right now. This may change in a few years.

Xbox fans seem happy, most, and are going to buy the Xbox. Granted they may be now the more vocal in the community. OThers are getting both systems. A smaller group sticking with the PC, losing out possibly on the exclusives.

It looks neck and neck, and thats good. Will make both sides strive this next and possibly next systems to produce so great exclusive games. Not some, but many.

As long as each system delivers... its a win-win.

Keep Playing@

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ethird1
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 12:49:45 PM
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I hope they bring FF 14 to PS4 soon. The ps3 graphics suck. But then again, if Elder Scrolls can get out before FF 14 does on PS4 it wont matter then. :)

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Geno
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 4:39:58 PM
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SO far I agree with many of you. But the whole idea of saying PS3 graphics suck is purely saying your crazy. FF wise the graphics are very beautiful. PS3 always have very good graphics depending how much you push the PS3.

But enough about that. Moving on. As I said before I am a consumer of Sony Products. Never had a let down. I planned to have both consoles in the beginning but that quickly changed due to how MS handle so many things after E3. It blew me away. Even Pissed me off a great deal. MS basically FUed a bunch of people that was all for their product. I changed my mind about even buying X1. So I plan to have one of the PS4 Bundles to have it sit next to the PS3. But I shall say one last thing, in my eyes MS showed pure fear not about the fact they listened to their consumers. FEAR that PS4 will snag all of the Xbox Gamers. Another thing I believe never fear your Competition push forward to knock them out the way. Peace Out.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 4:45:02 PM

Yea I don't get it either. I love how games on the PS3 look. If this new gen only brought more stable frame rates and faster load times without better graphics, I would have been just as happy. To be honest I'm a little sad to think we may not see another Last of Us or Uncharted installment on the PS3.

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Akuma07
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:49:24 PM

Honestly. I don't really understand this.

But in the past 2 months, every console game I play, looks crap to me.

Booted up Killzone 3 for the first time since I bought it at launch, and it looked terrible. Just got Battlefield 3 from PS+ the past few days, and it looks as bad as Call of Duty.

Is there something wrong with me? :( or are my expectations just insanely high now that I have seen next-gen graphics.

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MrAnonymity
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 5:12:35 PM
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Serious question: How could MS's original gameplan have been a good thing? I am going to research this myself, but I'd like to get some opinions here.

I ask because a co-worker of mine is a massive MS fanboy that believes it would have been a good thing - without explaining in detail WHY, of course.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 5:53:34 PM

That's what makes him a fanboy. Blind loyalty.

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VampDeLeon
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 2:24:07 AM

The only 'positive' I can think of regarding the always online ordeal, basically that would function as Microsoft's main goal of taking over the living-room. It would have been treated like your usual cable service bundles; allowing phone, tv, and of course gaming service all together. However, as many know, not every living area is capable of maintaining outstanding and uninterrupted internet connection.

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Razov
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 3:47:16 AM

I've no love of MS, however the always on thing. I can kinda see being a good idea(in theory or on paper). If you want to combat piracy. If the CD key/ID /whatever doesn't match up. It doesn't work or system shuts down. Also if you mod the system and the system registry doesn't match up with whats online. Then it stops working. But it took me a while to think this up. So... I'm guessing MS had other ideas for it.

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Akuma07
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:38:13 PM

From an objective point of view, there are benefits to those requirements.

The reason why people hated it, is because that kind of system is way ahead of our time. It is a system that is FOR the all digital age, and we aren't there yet.

1. Platform wide standard - One of the biggest problems with devices these days is fragmentation. Having one DRM policy for the entire platform would make things simpler.

2. Cloud computation - Having every single console being always online, would mean that developers could build every game with the cloud in mind. It doesn't really matter in the end, because that feature is still available if they need it, but once again, it won't be a standard.

3. Cloud saving - having your game stored int he cloud would enable you to play it anywhere, without the disc. Provided you have an internet connection. Best example i've seen, is a guy who wanted to buy a copy of Halo 5, and then share that game with his Son, who lives in a different country.

4. Piracy - it would have eliminated piracy, unless someone came up with a counter.

So I guess you could have looked at it, as updating the standards to that of a digital only age of console gaming. They tried to force that on consumers way too early though. It was a pre-emptive strike on physical mediums. You can 100% guarantee that the next Xbox after the XBone would have been digital only, probably still will be.

Using a female analogy. If you move things with a girl too quickly, and force yourself onto her, you will probably get totally shut down and rejected (vast majority of gamers). Though there are a small minority of girls who may like that kind of thing (blind Xbot's). If you take your time with her, do things right, make more subtle moves, you will get the girl in no time. Which is where we are now, MS has reversed their DRM at launch, but you can guarantee it will be back..... in time... and more subtle.

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___________
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 4:33:42 AM
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if ps4 is the most powerful gaming device ever conceived, than what does that make gaming PCs and gaming laptops?
$ony really are delirious!
another thing wrong, he says they havent changed a thing for the ps4 but dident they confirm the ps4 was originally only going to have 4GBs of memory instead of 8?
good old $ony, no company is as good at contradicting themselves than them!

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Willowdale
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:22:31 AM

They really need to have an ignore feature on this site so we don't have to read your nonsense.

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JROD0823
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 12:10:34 PM

Your argument about gaming PCs and laptops is completely moot, because even if you only ever play games on them, they are still capable of doing everything a non-gaming PC can, whereas a dedicated gaming console still can't (and hopefully never will) do some things.

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Akuma07
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:12:29 PM

I shouldn't be feeding your nonsense. But just so that other people don't read your comment and agree with you.

Your comment is invalid, because PC's are not gaming devices.

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___________
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 9:02:28 AM

you play games on them, there for there gaming devices.
actually everything you can do on the PC you could do on the ps3 when $ony allowed other OS installation, so by that definition then the ps3 is not a gaming device either.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 4:46:06 AM
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I hate the fact that everyone is saying Titanfall is THE reason to buy an Xbox One and keep calling it an Xbox One exclusive WHEN IT ISN'T!!!!

Titanfall is coming out on 360 and PC as well!! Same day!!! I'm buying it on PC.

Forza 5 looks pretty, and the whole recording your driving persona for online play even when you're not playing is a pretty cool feature, but it's doesn't sell me on a Day One purchase.

Same with Quantum Break and Project Spark, both look interesting, but they're not enough to make me want an XB1.

Being Australian, our TV services aren't anywhere NEAR as diverse or advanced as the USA, so the whole set top box recorder and voice activation features may look cool, but we've seen them before on Kinect and with new Smart TV's. I've been asking JB Hifi and EB Games, they all say PS4 preorders outnumber XB1 about 3 to 1.

If XB1 doesn't deliver the games or an online service that is far beyond the competition, I just don't see it being relevant in the near future.

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Akuma07
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:13:47 PM

That really annoys me about Titanfall too. Not because it is also coming out on PC, but because there is very strong evidence to say it is a 1 year timed exclusive.

When the developers themselves say "Yes we want to take our game to the PS4" that's nearly a confirmation.

I caaaaannnn't wait for the day when it does get announced for PS4. Then the Xbots will be like "BUY AN XBONE FOR TITANFA... wait.... BUY AN XBONE FOR FORZA AND HALO!!!!"

But yeah, I am a fellow Australian, so definitely agree with you about the Australian TV services. Although I can say that there are a few companies who are looking to provide some sort of on-demand video functionality on Xbone. But it's nothing you can't already get.

The good thing about online multiplayer being put behind a pay wall on PS4, is that we can expect huge improvements to Sony's online infrastructure. Which is only a good thing for us. The current generation has proven that most gamers younger than 20, will just get their parents to pay for the online multiplayer very easily, and anyone who really likes to play multiplayer will pay the money without hesitation.

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Mamills
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 9:56:37 PM
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yea, i was actually considering a console switch to XB1 this coming gen. but after that whole mess screw that, SONY all the way.

Sony always has the better exclusives. (Anything naughty dog, guerilla, media molecule, that game company and santa monica studios) I see no exclusive on XB1 that i want.

Titanfall is amazing but thats being published by EA and made the guys who did call of duty. mark my words it will be coming PS4 eventually. I mean cmon, this is EA publishing it (remember Mass effect?) it only makes sense business wise unless M$ buys it.

in terms of XB1, I hate kinect motion controls are garbage for most genres, its crap and i dont like the idea of that thing always on, not even going to entertain it.

In terms of TV going through the XB1, well u still need your Cable receiver anyway, all XB1 is a media player that it plugs into nothing more.

Then there is the issue of that non removable HDD. yea, i have a 500GB HDD in my PS3 and its full, so have fun with that on XB1.

then there is the issue of the Size. WTF!! i like taking my console around to friends houses here n there. (Call me old school but i do enjoy playing with the PHYSICAL company of others, good luck doing that with that over sized VCR.) PS4 small, actually surprisingly small. (about PS3 slim size.)

then there is the price, 499 plus Xboxlive (think its $60) plus a headset (cuz good luck screaming at your TV since M$ decided not to include one), and a game. you looking at somewhere around 650 - 700 for a console by the time you r ready to go. (WTF!! I may as well go buy a PC. And if you're in canada add on tax... you can forget it.)

So PS4 it is, plus PSN+ gave out 64 games last year, wonder how much we'll get this year? Either way, let the Xbots support that oversized monstrosity i'd rather spend the extra cash on extra games.

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Akuma07
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:16:45 PM

After reading your post, I really cannot understand what ever possessed you to even consider switching to Xbone for next-gen.

Sounds like you already had enough reasons to stay PS before the whole Xbone debacle.

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Mamills
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 10:19:58 PM

just wanted a change, wanted to see what the XB live hype was about.
and i found out about its details all at once. (after they screwed up)

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