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Xbox One Fiasco: Will Gamers Continue To Hold A Grudge?

One thing to remember, everyone- this is an exceedingly fast-paced industry.

This is precisely why we mustn't be prisoners of the moment. It's impossible to live solely in the present in the gaming world; doing so essentially translates to being shortsighted.

In regards to the epic face-plant everyone continues to talk about - Microsoft's initial Xbox One announcement - it's important to try to envision the gaming landscape five years from now. Gamers are an interesting group; in many cases, they've proven to be immensely fickle, forgetting about earth-shattering news within months due to a variety of factors. On the other hand, there are plenty of cases where core gamers have held long-running grudges; they never forget and they're quite vocal about that fact.

So the question is a simple one, really: Now that Microsoft has reversed the two policies that pissed off so many people, will we even remember this blowup five years from now? Or will it have been relegated to a fuzzy, almost insignificant blip on the video game history radar? Will Microsoft's machine once again be trouncing Sony's in the US, as the Xbox 360 has done most of this generation to the PS3? Or will we be looking back at this moment as the early turning point, at a critical juncture where Sony retook control of the gaming market, even in North America...?

Obviously, what I'm asking is whether or not gamers will hold this grudge, even with Microsoft's reversed policies. It's sort of easy to forget, because the end result is a console that doesn't restrict used games via DRM, and doesn't require those ridiculous daily online "check-ins." So, if the console doesn't do those things, what difference does it make that it would've? It's easy for core gamers to go, "Hell, I won't be forgetting that!" But time passes quickly and it becomes more and more difficult to hold that grudge, doesn't it? I believe the fickleness of most gamers will allow the Xbox One to be just fine; in fact, better than fine.

That, and there are millions upon millions of casual gamers out there who don't know about any of this. They aren't interested in reading news headlines about video games. All they'll know is that when a new Xbox shows up in stores, they'll want it. It's Xbox, after all.

Tags: xbox one, microsoft, gamers, gaming culture, next generation

7/7/2013 9:59:54 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (31 posts)

Norrin Radd
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 11:37:36 PM
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As always - it's the games that will dictate a platform's success. If XBone has fantastic exclusives - it will be just fine. If Titanfall remain exclusive, how many would consider a purchase? What if there were a dozen more fantastic exclusives as well? Right. Games sell systems. Always have, always will.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:06:19 AM

Titanfall may be more of a red herring than it appears. People may love their online gaming but they will still prefer CoD for that. With no SP or local Co-op on Titanfall it could be their MAG moment.

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Akuma07
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:15:55 AM

Titanfall is being used as an "Awesome Xbox One exclusive game" that Xbot's are using as an example to buy the console.

What they can't seem to understand (along with everything else about the next-gen consoles) is that more than likely, Titanfall is only a timed exclusive, 1 year I'd say. It is also on PC anyway.

When the developers say "We would like to take the game to PS4", what else can you really take from that?

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Underdog15
Sunday, July 07, 2013 @ 11:42:13 PM
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The last line is especially potent. For some reason, XBOX is North America's abusive romantic relationship. We are Mary Jane. XBOX is Eddie Brock. And Sony is Peter Parker...

It's about time she leave that symbiote pig and join the hero that's always had her best interests at heart.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:08:13 AM

And American attention spans are about as long as those of Deadpool.

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KidPresentable
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 7:34:09 AM

Wait, wait! I got one. We are Wendy March, MS is the dastardly Doctor Dogsbreath Devereaux, and Sony is Doctor Phil Good.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 10:43:23 AM

You don't get to play

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KidPresentable
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 3:51:09 PM

Ok, that one didn't stick. How about we are Thelma and Louise, Sony is the car and the freedom of the open road, and MS is the cliff and gravity?

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FatherSun
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 10:49:42 PM

Ike and Tina? Chris and Rihanna?

I have always likened the XBox saga as MS being pimps and the Xbots the tricks. A pimp basically coerces an individual with glamour or at least the perception of it. Then when the individual becomes dependent... bam.. The pimp hand comes on strong. Then at times MS is the John purchasing an "exclusive" good time. Just like one buys an hour they buy a few months.. A year maybe.

Or maybe they are like the old time soothsayers with their elixirs, smoke and mirrors and the like. How else could it be explained that even after %30 of hardware failures people came back for more and more. And then some. I tell ya, That Red Ring was a form of hypnotism!!! Once seen.. It cannot be useen!

Last edited by FatherSun on 7/8/2013 10:52:03 PM

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Lukos
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:00:04 AM
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You ask a lot of questions in your fourth paragraph, there. Will it be this, or will it be that?

The truth is, I don't think everything will be so black and white. You ask if Xbox will trounce PS like most of the current generation, but consider this: Xbox 360 launched a full year ahead of PS3, and PS3 launched with some serious issues. Even so, by the end of the generation, it was clear that Sony had learned its lesson because both the 360 and PS3 were (are) about on par. That's a testament to what Sony's been doing, in a way. What if they had launched together, at comparable prices?

My point is, there are a lot of variables. I don't think it's going to be either X or Y. Once the dust settles, if Microsoft doesn't prove to have intentions to reinstate its controversial policies, this could all be history, and it could be seen by the public as an amazing console--but that doesn't necessarily mean it'll take the top spot from Sony again. Sony has done too much right, and they've been working hard on that since about mid PS3. In addition, Sony is still working on adding things to the PS4. There have even been rumors going around about a PlayStation TV thing.

This whole "console war" is extremely convoluted. Things don't just flip (I don't care what Don Mattrick does) and it will be interesting to see what happens, but whatever does happen will not just be simply because gamers got over a grudge.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:10:16 AM
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I think this too shall pass. Remember when Sony had a big hacking problem that made everyone swear off their service forever? Yeah I hardly do either.

If MS is good at anything it is marketing/brainwashing and I'll be pretty surprised if Sony can stay ahead in the US over time. It's gonna kill Xbox everywhere else though.

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Karosso
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 8:53:26 AM

That is also how I feel. The US will be much closer this time, but the xbone will get trashed badly everywhere else.
I went to watch Despicable Me 2 and Monsters University this week with my nephews, and MS has already started advertising the xbone, PS4 remains a Internet Domain item, no advertising anywhere.
If there is one weakness in Sony's path to total dominion like in the PS2 days, its advertising. Sony has been doing a terrible job of promoting its products lately, they need to have Uncharted 4 trailers running on movie theaters by holiday season, just play it like it was a movie and then at the very end show it as a PS4 game, that would get people talking.
MS will be giving xbones away as soon as possible, just like the Dell specials they had, buy a crappy laptop and get a crappy console free.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 10:44:55 AM

Agreed, they seem to think that one ad available on the internet and the words "Greatness awaits" are enough to shift a console. It's kind of pitiful.

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FatherSun
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 10:57:10 PM

I have actually seen the Greatness Awaits commercial more than several times on live television. During shows and hours that I would least expect. I am so proud. They just need to showcase the actually PS4 now the the console itself had been revealed.

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DragonRose313
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:13:08 AM
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I think It will hurt the initial Launch, but after a few months they will hit the mass market and be fine, unfortunately.

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Akuma07
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:22:58 AM
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Agree that it will hurt the launch, but it will eventually come back. Then after it makes a comeback, they will slowly reintroduce the DRM features hahaha.

One thing the US gamers have shown (no offence), is that they are willing to let companies ass rape them as much as they want, as long as they use lube. (Sorry for the yuck analogy).

I love it how Microsoft uses the 15 exclusives in year 1 excuse. When more than likely, most of them are timed exclusives. Saying "Year 1 Exclusives" sounds great, but then when those franchises go multiplat, they won't have egg on their faces.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 10:45:33 AM

makes you wonder if they can turn that 24-hour check in on at any time.

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WARxWOLF
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:55:43 AM
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i agree with you Akuma07.
no matter what xbone have im sticking with ps4

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Apocrita
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 2:01:34 AM
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I certainly don't consider myself 'hard core' but I do have an extensive game collection. It greatly favors the 360 this last generation, BUT memory and grudges will have little to do with my attitude and decisions about the XB1. It's all about trust.

I don't trust MS, and can't imagine that I ever will again. The truth is, I never much trusted or cared for them as a company to begin with. What little 'faith' I had was irretrievably squandered, by them.

So, trust and the lack thereof, that's far more important to me than any other issue.

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Gabriel013
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 2:11:49 AM
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If the games are good and the policies remain gamer friendly then it will sell well.

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Gamer46
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 2:28:28 AM
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Unfortunately I think most here in North America will forgive MS, maybe even by launch. Me? I've bought and been happy with both the Xbox and the 360 but after what MS just tried to pull, its lost my trust. Who's to say the online check-ins and other nonsense won't come back after say a year or 2 when the console has sold to lots of people? It seems as if it was easy as 'flipping a switch' to get rid of that stuff, so they could just as easily bring it back. Not to be trusted.

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___________
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 5:12:56 AM
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of course they will forget in a few years time, hell most will probably forget even before the system releases!
why would it matter in 5 years though?
at the rate this industry moves, hell at the rate that M$ replaces its employees, i wouldent be surprised to see most of their employees replaced within that 5 year time frame!

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bldudas1
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 7:34:44 AM
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Not that many people are gullible to believe Microsoft listened to them. Those who are will forget, those who are not, will not. And you still need an internet connection to get rid of the DRM policies with a system update. If the next batch of consoles after the initial run do not require this update, then maybe.

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Ultima
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:39:23 PM
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They may not forget, but it won't matter. In the short to medium term, DRM policies are not going to be what makes the Xbone get off to a slower start than the PS4 (if indeed that occurs, which I think is extremely likely) - it's the -price-. That $100 difference is still the biggest advantage SOny has going into this new generation. Everything else - power, DRM policy differences, even build quality - are all just extras. PRICE is the biggest deciding factor right at the start.

There are other issues as well, like the purported yield issues MS is having, reducing the number of available units on launch. BUt still: PRICE.

If Sony can overcome an initial $US600 price tag, exotic hardware that no one wanted to deal with, and coming in a year later, MS can potentially do it as well. But the odds are not in their favour.

Sure, five years from now when the systems are likely costing the same, the price won't be a factor. However, Sony has also nullified two of the three advantages MS had last time (i.e. year's headstart and easier to program hardware), so merely keeping with historical trends on Sony's worldwide popularity compared to Microsoft, Sony should, at the very least, be able to maintain their advantage on most of the world and come equal to MS in MS's strongholds of the US and UK, which would translate into massive dominance on Sony's part.

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DUNDEAL79
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 3:38:48 PM

Agreed its all about the price, if X1 drops the mandatory bundled camera and shaves off a hundred bucks at launch then it will be a lot closer sales this Holliday.

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anjpikapp3
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 12:40:20 PM
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Some people may not hold a grudge and yeah, there are a few that wouldn't even know the difference between an xbox and PS but I do my research before I make a purchase and I know that M$ is a huge company with terrible strategies. Hell, I still have not replaced my 360 just because I think M$ should have man'd up and paid for the RRoD. They knew what they were putting in the 360's...and yet it still went out the door.

I do not plan on buying anything M$ ever, as they have showed their greedy little troll hands once again, this time with the Xbox One. More money goes into M$ pockets while the "GAMER" get the bill. I mean just look at the design; lower quality GPU, ram, processor yet still $100 more....how? for a piece of plastic with some camera lenses in them?!? This also brings up the whole M$ doesn't care about the gamer because if they did, then they would have known that the Kinect or the Eye is something hardcore gamers just don't want or need. Even with just the parts (lets say you bought DDR5 ram and the GPU alone) the PS4 would still be valued higher then the Xbox One yet the PS4 is $100 cheaper.

So, yeah my grudge burns strong. Nothing better then "designed in USA, made in CHINA."

Note: I wonder what name M$ will have for their failed components this generation?!?

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xnonsuchx
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 2:49:04 PM

My understanding it that it was actually an admitted design flaw in the first ~11 million 360's sold instead of a failed component (well, maybe failed DUE to the design flaw)...at least for most RRoDs.

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ProfPlayStation
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 4:58:31 PM

Yes, the RRoD was a design flaw; one that they purposely did not fix because Microsoft was is a huge rush to beat Sony to market, regardless of how they got there. That pretty much tells you where Microsoft's values lie, and the DRM scandal only further emphasizes that point.

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anjpikapp3
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 6:04:43 PM

@ Prof: I was also told by a M$ employee (I'm in Seattle) that the DRM can be added back to the system at anytime via software push/patch. If anyone thinks that the DRM issue is gone, please hold your breath until you see "the light." M$ will not let DRM go and WILL get their $$$$ (not from me though). :D

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xnonsuchx
Monday, July 08, 2013 @ 2:37:19 PM
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You forget the other thing that's pissing quite a few people off...the REQUIRED Kinect 2 unit. Many 360 fans I've talked to HATE the idea of paying for it and having to hook it up when they don't care to use it.

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cadpig
Tuesday, July 09, 2013 @ 5:44:37 AM
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Microsoft did themselves quite a disservice by forcing Kinect 2 on folks. When it adds 100usd to the price. It's going to be hard to justify another 100usd. When sony gives you so much more for less money.


I think most folks will have forgotten the DRM issue, when the games roll out. I'm not ready to forgive and forget with an 100usd pricetag difference.

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