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Petition Wants Microsoft To Reinstate Nixed Xbox One Policies

See? No matter how obvious something seems, there will always be people to disagree.

When Microsoft revealed that their new Xbox One console would feature used game DRM and mandatory daily Internet "check-ins," the gaming world went nuts. They hated it. When Sony announced at E3 that their PlayStation 4 would have no such mandates, everyone loved it.

And hence, we saw a big spike for the PS4, while the negative Xbox One headlines overflowed. It may have peaked with a Facebook poll asking gamers to pick their horse for the next generation; it was stopped early when Sony's machine had 95% of the overall vote. So yeah, that seemed pretty straightforward, right? When Microsoft rescinded those policies, it appeared to be a good thing.

But a new online petition at Change.org calls for Microsoft to change their minds again. Believe it or not, the petition asks the Xbox manufacturer to reinstate the policies they removed:

"This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses. Essentially, it was Steam for Xbox. But consumers were uninformed, and railed [sic] against it, and it was taken away because Sony took advantage of consumers [sic] uncertainty."

Oh, don't laugh. The petition has nearly 1,500 signatures already. I'm almost tempted to sign it just so Microsoft will bring back those policies...and Sony's domination can be assured. ;)

Tags: xbox one, microsoft, xbox one petition, ps4, playstation 4

7/10/2013 11:11:19 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (51 posts)

Jawknee
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:23:29 AM
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Lap it up sheep.

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Nynja
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:56:51 PM

Somebody throw Microsoft a map or shoot them a link to Google Maps.

They are so lost.

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 6:46:26 PM

Bing Maps aren't good enough? :P

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Tim Speed24
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 7:46:00 PM

No...No they aren't.

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SirLoin of Beef
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:24:26 AM
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Yeah, there's a decent number of people on the various MS fora griping about it, too. Some are threatening to cancel their pre-order, blah blah blah. It really is impossible to please everybody.

Last edited by SirLoin of Beef on 7/10/2013 11:24:41 AM

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:26:03 AM
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Personally I think this petition is misleading. This wasnt going to be nor was it ever intended to be "steam for xbox". This would have consolidated games to one user and eliminate a large portion of consumer purchases.

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:27:49 AM
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Hey Microsoft! The gamers have spoken ! Can't force us, lest we abandon you! I'll be going PS4. MS, you've cause me too much havoc.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:33:14 AM
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Yeah there was never any indication that gamers would be able to sell their digital licenses, this was an attempted coup to stop anyone but Microsoft from profiting.

If that's the future of entertainment I'll get workin on that time machine now.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:36:35 AM
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LOL! Look at the comments. A good number of them have signed this stupidity because they know these policies are a disaster for MS.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:37:45 AM

I was gonna say, it musta been started by Sony fans.

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bldudas1
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:43:37 AM

They must be Sony fans.

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Mamills
Friday, July 12, 2013 @ 2:01:02 PM

i say sign it n buy PS4

LOL

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anjpikapp3
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:41:16 AM
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Repped!!! Oh wait, wrong site...SIGNED!! ~M$ put foot in mouth *here*!! :D

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Cabalavatar1
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:42:07 AM
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Let me say again here that I don't even like the used-game market. But I also hate DRM, as a principle.

So I don't like how MS was trying to eliminate the used-game market, but I appreciate that perhaps we could have had a world in which we flooded more money to developers and lowered prices as a result of eliminating that market.

Anyway, all of that is moot. I already pre-ordered my PS4, and the Xbox One is still too undesirable.

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Cabalavatar1
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:45:18 AM
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Why is there that pointy finger [sic] after "railed"? "Rail against" is a common idiom. The author almost certainly didn't mean "rallied against."
The other [sic] belongs where it is.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 2:03:05 PM

What exactly does [sic] mean? I've always wanted to ask that.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 2:43:38 PM

I thought it meant something in the quote isn't standard english. But you don't actually get told any of this stuff so who knows lol.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 7:26:43 PM

[sic] is what journalists use when they quote someone directly who has used incorrect grammar or spelling. It's just a way of showing exactly what the person said and that the journalist didn't make a typo. It's also used when a particular piece of a quote is confusing or doesn't make sense the way the said it.

Sort of a pride thing almost for the journalist... like... If you quote a twitter feed that says, "their it is!"... someone quoting it would say "their [sic] it is!" because it should say "there it is!"...

lol... tough to explain. Basically... [sic] means this is exactly what the person I'm quoting said, and no, I didn't make a mistake. Really.

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Dukemz_UK
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 10:45:55 PM

@ Underdog: "the way the [sic] said it"
:-)

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Esc
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 4:03:47 PM

Beamboom - sic means "Shown In Context"

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:11:04 PM
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I am all for healthy competition per se, but I sure hope Sony chases Microsoft from the console business.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:13:44 PM
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:o

Mm kay. Lol

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KidPresentable
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:25:39 PM
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The whole thing was so confusing and Microsoft's responses makes you think that there must be nothing but yes men employed there because they seemed to have zero idea to the downside of those policies. As if not one person dared to question 'What if THIS happens?'. And confusing is not good for the majority of console users, because if it wasn't they'd be gaming on PC.

And I don't think MS had any intention of bringing Steam like savings to the masses. The trade off of developers/pubs getting a bit more money vs. every mom and pop gaming store going out of business without used revenue wasn't really something I thought was a good outcome.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 2:50:37 PM

It's quite fun to sit back and see the chaos ensue. Microsoft haven't got a clue what to do, and in their confusion they're destroying their gaming division. Everyone can see it but them, lol. They have absolutely zero buisness sense, probably only riding on brand recognition now.

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Nynja
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:30:03 PM
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Haha, I suppose those same people who want more restrictions placed on products they purchase don't realize the "future" of digital distribution they are clamoring for is obtainable without locking down the already viable disc model in place now.

The trick? Offer lower price for the digital version! There is this great thing called competition. If a consumer sees the option of buying the same brand new game in digital form at a lower price, they may opt for the digital copy knowingly giving up the right to later resell.

Some corporations just don't get it. Don't make the decision for the consumer, let the consumer decide themselves.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:34:48 PM

I know, it's so simple and nobody is willing to take the smallest hit to do the right thing. That's why it's absurd to think that prices would come down without the used game market.

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Nynja
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:50:23 PM

That's why I never really liked Microsoft. They are anti-competition, which is very anti-consumer. They want too much control and the company has already proven if given that control, they will abuse it.

F.MS.

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Gabriel013
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 3:44:35 AM

I would be tempted by that.

Sorry gamers, you won't be able to trade in your games and reclaim the 50% you otherwise would have received but instead we're going to give you a digital market with that 50% already off.

Sounds good to me.

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Ather
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:35:09 PM
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Who knew so many wanted Steam on XBOX? So, the future of gaming is DRM, and needed an internet connection to play? What a horrid future indeed.

Oh wait, I'm just confused. I guess I should shell out 500 bucks for a system I can't play when my Verizon connection dies (eliminating TV, internet, phone) and which I was flat out told by Verizon will happen again. Guess being uninformed how limited use is a good thing does that to a person.

Mehtinks this isn't Sony fans manipulating, but the smaller game developers trying to get DRM back. Or maybe I am uninformed, and people really want Steam on XBOX. Perhaps I am uncertain how all the naysayers were the minority of players.

Actually, I truly am uninformed over how not being connected to the internet prevents this magical future these people believe in? I'm uncertain how eliminating the DRM prevents digital games being sold, as well as being traded by players. I just don't see how eliminating restrictions reduces and eliminates these capablities? It's no longer Steam on XBOX because we can buy and sell sued games mutiple times? The future of gaming is gone because we don't connect online every single day to be able to play our games?

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Gabriel013
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 2:55:11 AM

The reason to your latter is likely this:

"So you want to be able to sell you $60 games to Gamestop for $5 so they can sell it to other gamers for $55 used? Then FU and the horse you rode in on. We have this cool digital trading scheme that we are cutting because reasons. That'll teach you to b*tch and moan" - Some Microsoft Exec..

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matt99
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:50:07 PM
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To me this seems like it was created by people who want XboxOne to fail, this can't be a serious petition.

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newchef
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 1:01:54 PM

thats what i thought but there are so many comments from people that genuinely seem to want it back...i feel most are xbox fanboys that feel that the xbox should have kept its integrity and stuck it out with the unwanted features

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PSTan
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:51:26 PM
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The only advantage Microsoft could ever have with such policies is if they "consolized" their version of Steam. If they undercut game prices and promote digital sales, such policies would be justified and help to usher a real digital age for them.

But why do that when PC gamers already have Steam? Trying to compete with a company that has a monopoly (albeit an amazing one) in the digital realm of hardcore gaming is far too difficult; console and PC gaming have always had their differences; why copy off each other?

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Nynja
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 12:54:45 PM
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Next on NBC News...Microsoft pulls a 360 on their 180...In the wake of their policy change yet again, 80% of XBOX ONE pre-orders have been canceled...reports 1 major retailer.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 4:32:37 PM

If that happens, I guess the Xbox would be the 360 again.

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Douchebaguette
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 2:31:39 PM
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What a bunch of f**king IDIOTS. Why the hell would you want a system that runs directly like a PC? That'll make it more like a gimped PC; the closer we get to that, the closer PC gaming will eat consoles alive.

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Crabba
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 4:15:09 PM
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How ironic, when clicking the link to that site I get a anti-virus phishing url warning.. how appropriate.

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Kryten1029a
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 5:49:53 PM
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Either this is sockpuppetry by someone in the Xbox division who wanted to create a backdraft against the firestorm over the old DRM policies or a case of fanboys whose Stockholm Syndrome is so absolute that they actually liked these proposals. The whole "this is Steam for consoles" came from an anonymous post from a supposed Microsoft employee, claiming that that's what Microsoft was aiming for. The difference is that on PC you have a CHOICE to use Steam, but on console you would be obligated to use the manufacturer's service.

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johnld
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 6:06:29 PM
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i actually didnt mind the drm part because i buy new and rarely sell my games. once a day check in doesnt bother me either since right now my ps3 is connected online everyday anyway. i wont touch the camera/privacy crap. what interested me was the game share games with 10 "family" members. i mean if you dont need the disc in drive to play games (microsoft was too stupid to actually make this part clear) then i can basically just gather up a group of 10 good friends and gameshare. i mean its like buying 10 games for the price of 1. i get a copy and so does the people i play alot with. then ill just watch microsoft game sales drop while i play on my ps4 and enjoy the games on xbox one that i didnt really pay for. even if we split costs that would at least be just 6 bucks a game right divided among 10 people.

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Kryten1029a
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 6:27:43 PM

The game sharing was the one feature that I actually liked but I could never understand the rationale behind it. As far back as I can recall, the game industry has been pissing and moaning about either used games or rentals and then they're suddenly fine with up to 10 people sharing a common library? I can't envision any scenario where that wouldn't depress sales and when you have the likes of Capcom crying over 6 million copies for Resident Evil 6, it makes even less sense. There would have had to be a catch in there somewhere: either it would have been limited by publishers on an opt-in/opt-out basis (which might have explained the lack of indie self-publishing because Microsoft wouldn't collect their rakeoff on shared indie titles) or it would have been time limited in some way.

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johnld
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 11:13:19 PM

partly my point. they couldve made all these drm stuff a smaller issue if the detailed why they needed it for these new features theyre telling us about. the people who theyre trying to market to, the gamers, arent idiot. what they showed us is something we dont like and didnt show any actual justification for it.

instead they said were gonna do drm but well also do gameshare and cloud stuff but you guys dont need the details because we like it so you will too. were doing a lot of things we like. well tell you what theyre called but you dont need to know the details, just enjoy them.

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Gabriel013
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 2:50:35 AM

I agree they were far to vague on the benefits.

I seem to recall that the shared library games could only be played by 1 person at a time so if your bought the new BF game and you wanted to play online with friends then they would need their own bought copy too.

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WARxWOLF
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 9:05:34 PM
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hey guys maybe we need to sign in too,
as ben said to ensure ps4 wins ;)

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tes37
Wednesday, July 10, 2013 @ 9:28:25 PM
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I'm thinking about signing this petition. I would absolutely love for MS to bring back DRM and 24 hour check-ins.

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Gamer4Lyphe
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 12:43:52 AM
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Lol...just for fun i signed the petition!!!

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Gabriel013
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 2:45:54 AM
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This is interesting. When the initial outcry built momentum the response was that MS wanted to offer gamers something different to a standard console. Something different to the PS4 . That's exactly what they did. It certainly wasn't to my tastes nor many other gamers but they had a whole concept behind what their system was intended to do and what it represented for the future.

I would never have bought one but I was not their target market. I think they should have gone with the original plan and then the gamer market would have been given 2 clear and distinct consoles to buy which may have led to some buying both.

As it is now, the PS4 and XBox are very similar in design capability and function so which people get will be based on brand loyalty and the exclusives. The console itself no longer offers anything different between the 2.

What I find funny IS the brand loyalty. Why did the 360 owners who hated the XB1 not just say to themselves "I want a console which operates similar to the current gen. I'll get a PS4 then."

Which console I buy is entirely dictated by the functionality and reliability it offers and the games which will follow it. I don't care what manufacturer it comes from.

I do feel a little sorry for those gamers who wanted something fundamentally different in the new Gen and that option has now been removed.

As for the XB1 being a multimedia centre and it being scorned for that. I do seem to remember the PS3 tag line being "It only does everything" and gamers were rejoicing that at the time.

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Kryten1029a
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 3:56:20 AM

"What I find funny IS the brand loyalty. Why did the 360 owners who hated the XB1 not just say to themselves "I want a console which operates similar to the current gen. I'll get a PS4 then."'


Some of us have!

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___________
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 4:25:04 AM
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nice to see the aliens havent gotten to the whole world........ yet!


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JROD0823
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 9:09:28 PM

Only Australia has been invaded by my estimation. ;)

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airwedge1
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 10:42:14 AM
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I don't see why they can't do both for both PS4 and xbox one. When you buy a disc you get the PS4 policy, when you buy and download online you get the original xbox one policy. Currently when you buy online with PS4 as well you can't sell that to someone else, so it would be nice to be able to do that. I personally like having a disc. However, the requiring online check is still silly.

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monkeypunch
Thursday, July 11, 2013 @ 2:11:48 PM
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I think these are hired shills. You can go on freelancer.com and buy about 10k Facebook likes for $100 (last I checked). If it's Sony fans they should make it more obvious it's a prank, "Please make us pay twice for the same game!"

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