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Gamers Likely Won't Welcome Pricey Next-Gen Hardware

At this point in time, gamers seem less likely than ever before to shell out lots of bucks for anything related to the video game industry.

Maybe it's just this palpable sensation I get that everywhere I turn, I see people who are very much unwilling to spend too much...on anything. Not that that's a bad thing (I am a very practical and even frugal person) but when it comes to leisure activities, people in this country often spend a whole lot. In fact, more than they should.

But over the past few years, that trend seems to be reversing. I have gone so far as to call gamers a bunch of whiny spoiled brats and for the most part, I'm sticking to that unfortunate assessment. They don't want to pay for extra content (which, to some extent, I can understand), they don't think $60 is a fair price for a new game (and they're right, given inflation and the technology involved, it should by all rights be around $100), and the biggest issue surrounding new consoles is indeed price.

In recent generations, price was always a factor, of course. But I distinctly recall the shift from the PS1 to the PS2, and the primary topic of conversation centered squarely on the new machine's capabilities. The price was discussed as well, but to a far lesser extent. I knew of quite a few big gamers who really didn't care what the price was going to be. In my estimation, that's sort of what hardcore fans are...but this time around, I'm not sure any such freewheeling philosophies exist. Price is not only a concern, it appears to be by far the top priority and in fact, the determining factor. Completely illogical but true, I think.

The bottom line is that this generation has undoubtedly seen far more whining than any other generation in gaming's history. I will certainly concede that some of that whining was warranted, and I too have issues with how the industry is being run. But the spoiled brat syndrome is still running rampant and an expensive new piece of technology might go over like a lead balloon. Toss in games that are almost guaranteed to be more expensive than they are now, and you've got a full-fledged revolt on your hands. I'm not entirely sure why, as inflation is inflation, technology gets better, things get more expensive, etc. It isn't tough to comprehend.

But really, I'm sensing a very large community that isn't willing to pay much of anything for anything. Sometimes I think we're a tweak away from a bunch of people going, "Yeah, we should just be getting this stuff for free. Or maybe it can be government subsidized." They're definitely not eagerly waiting to dump a lot of cash on any new product, even if it is part of their favorite hobby. ...and that could be a serious problem in the near future.

Tags: next generation, next gen, next gen consoles, ps4, xbox 720

7/26/2012 8:58:01 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (50 posts)

Red 5
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 9:46:22 PM
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Hi:
Well, I'm proud to say that I spent $600.00 on a PLAYSTATION 6 after launch. What disappoint Me is the VERY LOW quality of the games released. I can't understand how some developers can release such a CRAPPY Games like Call of Duty and I JUST CAN'T understand is how gamers bought them? Believe Me, I could (not so easily) buy a $1,000.00 System if the games (All of them) for that system would have the Quality seeing in Uncharted, Killzone, inFAMOUS and God of War in this generation. Of course, with the advantages of the New Gen Hardware.
Red 5.

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cLoudou
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 10:09:37 PM

Shh. Beware of your COD bashing they are listening or reading...the best that they can.
You are now officially a 'hater' embrace it.

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frylock25
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 2:10:03 AM

a playstation 6?

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CrusaderForever
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 9:17:32 AM

Hmmm, I will tell you why I buy each iteration of CoD because it's fun. Treyarch's releases offer more than just CoD as well in the form of Nazi Zombies. No need to hate on what some people find fun compared to you.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 2:35:27 PM

I agree the COD sales are out of control, but at the end, it's all about having fun.

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Rogueagent01
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 10:23:43 PM
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Well I am one of the ones that doesn't care what the price is I will be getting one. But I also have to say I don't remember many games last gen selling 10 million copies(did any?), or boatloads of DLC, nor services for some of these games. I don't think gamers are being cheap at all, sure the economy has made many gamers scale back on what they would normally buy but thats all I really see. Plus you have all the iOS and Android type games syphoning off money there. What I am getting at is money is being spent, and lots of it, it has just branched out instead of being that one single twig sticking out of the ground.

Yeah the complainers have been out more this gen, but that is normal and in a lot of cases they have the right(to me). I mean your a customer so you have the right to an opinion, unfortunately many take that as a right to give death threats, but hey, to each their own :) I myself have complained about a lot of games being either to easy or way to short. And yes I will admit that I don't think a 10 hour game is worth $60, call me a brat or whatever you like I feel that way and that will never change. And I also have complained about hardcore games being tossed to the side because pubs want more money, so they make their games more casual and easy, yeah god forbid you have to take your time, learn something, or actually be good at it. And then there is SE yeah I won't get started on them...

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Ludakriss
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 3:48:53 AM

Boy, I sure could listen to you bicker about the SE any day of the week =)

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Bugzbunny109
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 10:33:38 PM
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The truth is that we owe the existence of games like Uncharted, GOW, MGS4, Heavy Rain, LBP to Ps3's $600 price tag.

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Qubex
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 10:36:43 PM
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Thing is Ben, I think the PS3 has done such a good job with exclusives that a lot of us are wondering what the point of a next generation is; when so much can be done with the current technology.

In some ways the PS3 has become a victim of its own success really, in that Sony developers keep on pushing it beyond what was thought possible to some extent...

Of course it would be great to run everything at 1080p 60FPS, but I have come to think of this as immaterial now... if the game is good, and looks good, running it at 720p is just fine.

In the end it's all about the games, and not really about the hardware.

Therefore, the overarching proof that price is a factor today maybe a derivative indicating that underneath this frustration is the actual feeling that maybe next generation is not "really" needed right now, and people are quite satisfied with the tech they have; and rather, using price as a proxy argument...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Temjin001
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 12:43:57 AM

I doubt 60fps will be a standard for the next gen.
It's always been obtainable for the last several gens. The question is asked by the developer, is 60fps more important than more graphic detail? In most console games, devs opt for 30fps. I see this reasoning being no different next gen. Even Epic's target Samaritin demo was rendered at 1080p 30fps.

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Temjin001
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 12:45:37 AM

People always seem to forget this about the CoD engine as well. It simply can't look like BF3 or most 30fps games when it's running at the speed it's at.

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Qubex
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 7:05:04 AM

Agreed Temjin... but one can't deny the fact that things would look very pretty at a high resolution and at 60fps, even if it is not really a necessity.

I would assume, at minimum a x2 increase in power over the current PS3, even maybe x4. However, the way the market has been shifting and the way Sony will have to now adapt to the new market place, there next gen hardware may reflect this in more ways than one.

It may be very probable that the hardcore gamer is not thought of as highly as before, as more and more people, especially the younger ones, get fed and fat on quick Androis/iOS gaming rather than the typical long winded single player campaigns and intricate stories we are used to experiencing now and in the past. It could be that the very culture and nature of gaming is changing and Sony will have to change to capture this market. The hardware may therefore represent this new change.

Begs the question where does this leave the hardcore gamer? Are hardcore gamers relegated to PC only domain.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Ludakriss
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 7:23:54 AM

Brotha Q. You scared me with this xD Really though. I agree fully that it seems more and more everything is to be connected even though we end up apart.

No longer does it seem people want to play splitscreen but they want to Tweet about their headshots n shit. Quite gross really.

Hardcore wise? I got the ultimate shaft when the rumour started about the FF versus being cancelled.

My heard swiftly made it's way to colon and there it still remains. Free from promises, hope of those exact intricate stories and compelling and complex game play.

Done, I am. PC for us remains, it seems.

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Highlander
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 11:06:39 AM

Guys, the next generation consoles really ought to be capable of 1080p60 for all games.

I agree completely with what you are saying about developers making choices, that's why we have sub HD games right now. The dev made the choice between resolution and other aspects of the graphics.

However, if you take a simple progression from the original console hardware in PS3/360, with 6-7 years passing, there have been 4 (possibly 5) iterations of GPU and CPU technology since those consoles were delivered. There has been three die shrinks since they delivered the CellBE for example. It's not too outrageous to expect that with each iteration there is a 50-100% increase in power. You're looking at a potential increase in computational power between 5 and 16 times the PS3/360 standard.

The picture is a little complicated by the fact that we are having to use more cores rather than simply cranking clocks faster. But with improvements in design efficiency and the number of execution units available, there should be plenty of power in the next generation.

I'd really like to see both major console makers (sorry Nintendo, but you don't even have an HD device yet) mandate 1080p30 rendering for games. Either way, as I've said before, I think that HD resolutions between 720p and 1080p are plenty good enough for most, which is why people are not clamoring for a new console generation. What we have is already good enough for most. That said, the next gen devices will be far more powerful than current ones, and so I hope that they power will be used to improve image quality and not so much resolution. If the GPUs are even close to being contemporary, they should be able to render to 1080p60 and still use fairly hefty anti-aliasing and filtering.

Time will tell I suppose, but I would be really, really shocked if next gen consoles from MS and Sony did not specify full frame 1080p resolution rendering with at least 30 frames per second. I think 60 fps is more likely because I think that both Sony and MS will try to support 3D in 1080p30.

Qubex, look at the hardware inside the Vita. A tiny handheld device with true quad core CPU and quad core GPU. Imagine what can be done in the form factor of a home console. Even if all you did was fuse two of the most recent Cell processors together on a single die you end up with 3-4 times the computing power of a CellBE like the ones in the PS3. We all know how powerful people think RSX is, compared to the most recent GPUs it's pitiful isn't it? So pare up that faster cell with a modern GPU and you have at least a 4 fold increase in power. Sony's engineers know this, I can't believe that whatever CPU/GPU they have chose will offer anything less that that kind of increase. Though I still think we will see more than a 4 fold increase in computing power.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 11:25:42 PM
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Inflation is definitely inflation but my wages still do not go up with rising costs of everything else. The reason why there is more whining is due to the fact that gaming is now appealing to more of a diverse crowd than what it was before. So obviously there will be more people talking and more whining/criticism. Price is definitely not illogical, price is what makes or breaks our hobby, if it costs too much to game then I'd find a different hobby, plenty out there. But the price is perfect right now a happy medium between expensive but not too expensive to keep doing what I enjoy and that is game.

Another reason why price is being talked about more than as you say on "the machines capabilities" is due to the fact that the ps3 is so far advanced to what we even need that we or actually I can not see what more can be needed to game. True there could be minor improvements made but as a whole package the graphics are by far the prettiest I've seen, the free online play is excellent, so why not talk about price? When what we have is meeting our needs substantially. If the price is too high then we wait and enjoy what we have.

If the ps4 goes for around $500 then count me in but any higher then I'll just wait.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 26, 2012 @ 11:53:32 PM

I didn't say price was illogical. I said naming it the determining factor is illogical. If it's the only thing that matters, you obviously don't care enough about it to even consider the purchase.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 5:50:20 PM

The price is a determining factor because the technology that is packed into the playstation 3 is so adequate to what our led tv's can display that I cant see how visuals can get better, possibly the AI could get better along with very limited to no load screens.

I do care enough to purchase it, that is why I commented. BUT if it is going to break the bank then I guess definitely do not care enough to purchase the next gen tech and I am illogical in my thought process. Priorities: my here and now enjoyment or a necessity in my life.

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richfiles
Sunday, July 29, 2012 @ 9:23:10 PM

Yeah... I'm whining that the next PS4 could cost a fortune. That's not whining... THIS is whining! I lost my awesome job, through no fault of my own, becasue some greedy company bought us out and closed our plant to save money and get our products, and when I used to be able to drop $2400 that I only saved for 6 months to get on a 7.1 surround with Bose Speakers and a new 42" LCD, and a PS3, NOW I actually work TWO separate jobs and only make 1/4 the cash. Oh and I had that awful span where I didn't get any orders from Medtronic for that part I build for them, and then it caused me to default on my mortgage, and now I get to move into a noisy apartment next month cause the bank is taking my home...

And oh yeah... I might be concerned about the cash I spend on video games.

Yeah... That's whining.

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MrAnonymity
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 12:01:49 AM
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I can honestly say price rarely matters to me. There was a time in my life that I was up to speed with new advancements in the gaming industry... back when the Genesis and SNES were the cat's meow. Since then, I have always been twelve steps behind. I owned my first PS seven months after the PS2 hit the shelves. I acquired my first PS2 in '04. PS3? I have yet to have owned mine for a year. So... by the time the new hardware comes out, I'll probably still be shoveling myself out of the debt-valanche I buried myself under, stopping myself from buying anything for a good while. Can't say I'm bothered though. Due to this pattern of acquisition, when I finally DO get my hands on new(ish) hardware, there are already some amazing titles I can just dive right into. AND I end up not paying whatever ridiculous amount the hardware launches at.

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Beamboom
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 1:31:32 AM
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If the hardware is good enough I'll gladly pay what it cost. Simple as that. But I know I am in the minority there.
To me, it will be *much* worse if the hardware spec is sub-par than if it costs more than I expected.

I'm not convinced about the prices on games though. The larger a market is, the lower the price per unit could be cause it costs next to nothing to press a thousand extra copies of a game. So in that respect, the games should be cheaper now, not more expensive, simply cause the market is much larger.

I realize that the production cost is higher now of course, and understand that part of the reasoning. But I seriously doubt that it outweights the increased market size.

Or to put it this way: I suspect there is a reason why prices on games can drop to 1/3 so fast after release. Very good margins must be part of the explanation.

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MARNEY
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 1:34:36 AM
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i have a feeling both Sony & MS will have an option to subsidise their new consoles with some sort of subscription term agreement of 2 to 3 years to their premium services. Obviously, MS is testing the waters with their current 99$ + 2yr sub 360. i hope to see a 450-500$ max. purchase price. Software will most likely be more expensive, newly released physical media at 79.99$, same downloadable version for 59.99$, plus the eventual cost of additional dlc for either versions. it would be great if next gen was relatively cheep out of the gate, but as always, new tech is costly, so i wont be holding my breath.

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homura
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 1:57:10 AM
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If the the PS4 has Uncharted 4, Metal Gear Solid 5, Gran Turismo 6 or 7, Final Fantasy XV and a new God Of War as a launch title, then my question for myself will be " Where can I get that kind of money as soon as possible?", if somehow it cost more than a $1,000. I might think of robbing some Microsoft executives. nyahaha!

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JackC8
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 6:43:35 AM
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This is the kind of thing that always turns me off about this site: I think I'm going to read an article about next gen console pricing, but it's just calling everybody whiners about 19 times. That sort of antagonism is more suitable for a blog.

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Ludakriss
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 7:25:08 AM

=)

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Furrymann
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 6:48:09 AM
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I like video games :D I'll pay whatever the next price will be as I already throw my money away considering I own One of every PS3 model right now and will probably buy the slim slim as I call it just to have it.

Though 2 of them are permanently shelved as they broke down and sony's asking price for repair is half of what the current consoles sell for so i just buy new every time one craps out. But I digress I will no doubt be buying what ever console comes out next for what ever price they decide to stamp on the damn thing! NUFF SAID.

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PS9
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 7:30:37 AM
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Create a killer title, drop it in the box with the machine at launch, watch it fly.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 2:44:14 PM

"Playstation 9" that would be something if Sony made it that far.

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Kall555
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 7:48:29 AM
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If the launch line-up is good enough then i will shell out the dosh. If not, i will wait for a price drop.

One thing i won't be doing though is purchasing all next gen consoles. I will be buying one & that is it for me this time around.

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___________
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 8:32:44 AM
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i dunno, i still stand by if people think it is worth it than they will pay its price.
but that is exactly what im worried about, im worried $ony would do their usual BS and charge Ferrari money for a Ford!

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CrusaderForever
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 9:51:05 AM
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All I can say is if games are more than $60 in the next gen I will have to be more picky. Only my favorite games will be D1P. All other games will be of the used variety.

I know Sony won't disappoint with the PS4. It will be a tremendous upgrade compared to the PS3. I just hope I am right and that Sony continues it's innovative ways.

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telly
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 10:16:09 AM
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It's the post-Napster world we live in. Once people got a taste of free stuff, they couldn't go back. It fundamentally changed our generation's opinion of value, unfortunately.

having said that, I'll cry bloody murder if the next generation of systems retail for $600 out of the gate again. It's just too much money, period. PlayStation 2 debuted at $300 if memory serves, and I'm sure that was a big reason it was so successful from the get-go.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 10:30:09 AM
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Price it well or it won't get bought, simple as that. The whiners are the reason we aren't paying
$100 per game.

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Highlander
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 11:17:55 AM

No they're not. Game prices were pegged at $60 long before the first 360 or PS3 hit shelves. That base price hasn't changed since. Actually, I really wish people would stop whining about the cost of gaming. In the 6-7 years that this console generation has run inflation has ground by every year increasing prices in general. According to government figures the consumer price index rose by a cumulative 14% since 2006. In other words you pay 14% more for the same goods now compared to 2006. If that inflation were applied to games we'd be paying nearly $70 per game right now. Considering that the consoles themselves have halved in price and look to be getting even less expensive, the cost of gaming in general has decreased both in absolute price and relative to the consumer price index.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 4:56:27 PM

Which is why consumers not budging is how prices haven't skyrocketed.

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Highlander
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 5:12:46 PM

Not one time during this generation has any manufacturer (except Activision) suggested higher prices. Consumer pressure had little to nothing to do with the stability of the price.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 28, 2012 @ 12:36:12 PM

It was discussed, but they knew nobody would pay higher and the better route would be chopping games up into DLC.

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Highlander
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 11:12:02 AM
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I'll drop $600 on a PS4 if it's backward compatible with PS1, PS2, and PS3 games on optical disc or download. Hell, if they make that happen I'd probably be willing to spend more.

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CrusaderForever
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 12:00:43 PM

+1 to this ^

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Beamboom
Friday, July 27, 2012 @ 2:15:06 PM

If there comes a model with full PS3 compatibility I would be willing to pay the price of two consoles (the ps4 + the superslim) for that one. Seriously, I would, without a shadow of doubt.

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T2X
Saturday, July 28, 2012 @ 9:36:28 AM
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Actually, I expect to see less pricey systems next time around. I thought the manin reason PS3 was so expensive at launch was because of the new tech involved (Blu-Ray laser diodes and availability etc). So maybe the next gen systems will come in at about $299.00 if everything is just a step up tech wise. Unless they get really fancy with a camera and stuff or flash drives, which larger ones would probably initially drive the costs up a bit. But the one feature I want is backwards compatibility with my PS3. I really will be bothered if you can't use any of our PS3 stuff next time around. Just my thoughts!!

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Jaylynn
Saturday, July 28, 2012 @ 8:11:16 PM
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We all know that when the PS4 hits the market it will be pricey as hell. That's I think I will wait until Sony gives us a slimmer version of it. But knowing me I will probably drop the how many $$$ on it anyway.

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Bariikade
Sunday, July 29, 2012 @ 11:57:32 AM
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I recon people are whinning about the price of consoles and games this generation is because we're all older now. Back when we were all playing on the PS1 & 2 most of us were relying on our parents to buy us the consoles and games. Plus last generation didn't have the money troubles we have now.

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chabala
Sunday, July 29, 2012 @ 12:37:57 PM
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If the next generation is another round of pricey consoles and $60 games, there's going to be another video game crash. I never pay full price for a game anymore. I still buy new games, but I'll wait until they've been discounted into the $20 range, and I'll wait for a GOTY edition to avoid overpaying for DLC. I don't think I'm alone in this strategy.

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jugheadjones
Sunday, July 29, 2012 @ 2:44:52 PM
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I love all the new tech that comes along and I buy most of what does come out. I do kind of agree that I don't "need" a next gen system right now. I would probably buy the next gen, but not at launch. I can't see the significant upgrade from the last gen yet. Obviously, that's the downside of creating such great systems is that, unless there is a new and totally different tech that truly enhances the experience, a new system is going to be far into the future. A new generation of gaming systems right now would be like a new Madden game - basically the same as before, but with a new, and not really needed, feature.

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Ather
Sunday, July 29, 2012 @ 4:20:36 PM
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"I'm not entirely sure why, as inflation is inflation, technology gets better, things get more expensive, etc."

This is why the economy burst. Continously rising prices "justified" while we did not get more money to spend. And peopel merrily accepted it because they were told it's normal, and hey, it's not more money as it should be. Be thnakful it's so cheap.

Money spent requires value. Value is subjective. SOny thinks they're giving one heck of a value in the PS Vita. I see none of that value. So I won't buy one for the asking price of some $250 for WiFi only. There is no value for me. I'm on Wifi only, so most of the value exists on my computer already. I can use my Vita to log onto Facebook? I can do that on my computer, too. which is veyr close to places I'd be using the Vita. Watch movies? On a small screen? Sorry, my eyesight's not perfect. Again, I can watch on my TV/ Computer, which is way bigger. So on and so forth. That's not including price of memory or a game to play. The value just isn't there.

So a game consol will have to do alot to justify $400-$600. What they offer now does not justify it so soon after the last batch. Yes, so soon. This moronic every 5 years we get a new system was something that should have been laughed out of the meetings, not embraced. Again, this is why our economy collapsed. You can't keep sepnding all willy nilly without earning more money. Poepel did. It caught up to them. Now games are suppsoed to iuncrease even more? Time was $20 got a good game. Now we're pushing $80. For what? Cool graphics? Not good enough. Collector's editions are sjyrocketing in price, usually for a stupid statue. Ridiculous. Can't get the extra good stuff without paying an arm and leg for unwanted stuff.

The only solution will be customized systems, at varying prices. Don't want all the apps? You can pay $100 less. Don't need such grpahics? We'll give a weaker GPU. This is the oly solution if compnaies won't lower prices. And they won't.

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Widow Maker
Sunday, July 29, 2012 @ 5:16:57 PM
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I'll happily pay the extra dough for the new systems BUT...with terms. 1080p and 60fps must be standard. Also, anti aliasing and pixelization nullified, get rid of the "fog" that covers everything in the backgrounds, no load screens, and my number one priority...NO HARDWARE FAILURES!!! Zip, zilch, nada. No excuses. If they want that much of my cash, they better perform and I shouldn't have to worry with replacing the dang thing every other year during it's lifetime. Eliminate the heat issues, hardware/software bugs, and controllers that also reflect a premium machine. I've been a die hard PS fan since PS1, I got tired of being lied to by Nintendo, disc drives, HDDs, and so many other peripherals they NEVER delivered on, at least not here in the states. PS hasn't told me that I can't indulge my violent gaming monster, and still use the sytem for more than just gaming. Cool, a big plus.
Oh...while I'm at it...I don't want NetFlix and the rest of the advertising bozos on my machine, if I want them, allow ME to make the choice to invite them, not eat up my HDD with useless crap I don't use. Let ME decide what apps I want, individually and not grouped, and then when ALL of these requirements met...then, and only then will it be shiny.

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PHOENIXZERO
Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 5:31:04 AM
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The next gen consoles are going to max out at $400, that's pretty much a given.

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phade2blaq
Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 7:13:39 AM
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I think the perfect price point should be between $350-$400 ! If they try to sell another $600 system, people will be turned off !

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PHOENIXZERO
Monday, July 30, 2012 @ 6:21:06 PM

There's zero reason they need to be $500, let alone 600. The primary reasons for the PS3's huge price in 2006 (Cell and the BR drive were responsible for that) are non-factors today, especially Cell when it won't be used again anyway.

We should just hope the rumored hardware for "Orbis" that we saw several months ago was nothing more than that because if it wasn't the "next generation" is going to be pretty disappointing.

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PharaohJR
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 @ 1:06:13 PM
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anything over 6 bills i can but wont do....... i see it as the only reason consoles go higher in price cause more features outside of gaming is implemented into them. consoles are suppose to be lower then price of a PC if they get just as high the purpose is defeated...... with tablets in market (thats only good for convenience of doing task while moving, just my opinion) consoles shouldn't exceed the 600 margin......

with games..... i believe 60 is a reasonable price. if price increases DLC should sieze.... we must consider with larger database for games require more time to make use of its structure.... so next generation i dont want the continuance of games not being completed cause of business deadlines then the gamer has to dish out more money for content that should of been set. anybody correct me or share insight if seen another way....

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