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Rumor: Xbox One “Scorpio” Will be More Powerful Than the PS4 Neo

Rumor has it that Sony isn’t the only one working on a new iteration of the PlayStation 4 console. According to Kotaku and Polygon’s sources, Microsoft is developing at least two new versions of the Xbox One; a cheaper and smaller unit set for later this year, and a more powerful version of the Xbox One set for next year. Reportedly codenamed Scorpio, Microsoft’s new console is supposed to be more powerful than the PS4 Neo. 

According to a new report by Polygon, the Xbox Scorpio is targeting peak power of 6 teraflops, which is more than the reported 4.14 teraflops being considered for the PS4 NEO. Teraflops is the way of measuring a computer's speed, in case you didn't know.

However, computational performance only provides a narrow measure of a games console's power, with memory bandwidth and speed, and even hard-drive read speeds, all being potential bottlenecks that determine a system's overall "power."

Should the growing number of Xbox Scorpio insider articles, many of which verify each other, turn out to be accurate, it would mean Microsoft could be on the cusp of overcoming a three-year hardware handicap against Sony's trailblazing PS4. Sony has just announced that it has sold 40 million units of its PS4 system in about two and a half years. 

Power is a primary concern for Microsoft with Scorpio. The PS4 has remained a constant leader over the Xbox One in this respect, with games on the platform usually running at higher resolution and a higher framerate on the PS4 than their Xbox One counterparts. Microsoft is determined to end this narrative.

Also, previous reports and documentation for Sony's new console have suggested that PS4 games will work on both its current iteration of the system and the Neo, and current reports indicate this is also the case with Scorpio. Kotaku also reports that Scorpio will be "technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift." Polygon's sources verified that while Scorpio will be technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift, Microsoft's relationship with the virtual reality headset maker hasn't changed since it was announced last summer.

Interestingly, sources claim that Microsoft didn’t intend to announce anything this year but because of Sony’s expected announcement of PS4 Neo and its rumored release this year, among other undisclosed factors, the company is planning to reveal something either at or around E3 2016. 

It should be interesting to see how Neo and Scorpio shake things up for both companies, and how fans react to more powerful versions of current consoles. While it will be nice to not have to upgrade to a new console and no longer be able to play current games, there won’t be any of the hype and excitement that comes with a new console launch, either.

Well, like I said on my previous article about the rumored PS4 Neo, I don't intend to buy the PS4 Neo, or even the Xbox One Scorpio, anytime soon. I just bought my PS4 last May 2014, and it will be utterly ridiculous for me to upgrade to a more powerful console at this early stage. But if I will buy an upgraded console in the future and if I were to choose between Neo and Scorpio, I'll choose Neo. One major reason? GAMES! I don't give a damn if Scorpio has more teraflops or is gazillion times more powerful than Neo. Without a strong software library to support Scorpio, the console is worthless in my eyes. And we all know that the PS4 has the best lineup of quality and diverse software this generation. I just don't see Microsoft will be able to top that, even if their Scorpio is more powerful than Sony's PS4 Neo. What do you think guys? Will you choose Scorpio over Neo if Scorpio is the more powerful console?

 

Related Game(s): PlayStation 4

5/27/2016 2:05:29 AM Drew Constantino

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mk ultra
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 2:39:16 AM
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Wasn't there just a rumor saying Microsoft was abandoning Xbox? Hopefully E3 clears some things up.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 9:54:46 AM

I still think they will be shedding it over the next 5 years

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 11:18:25 AM

Not abandoning. Microsoft wants to INTEGRATE everything together. So it would be more of a "one box/one OS" type of thing. They are apparently pushing for the living room again, and with Win10 having the structure it does, they think it will happen this time. Microsoft is very ambitious and wants what Apple supposedly has.

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big6
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 12:57:18 PM

With Microsoft unifying the gaming (Xbox/Win10), wouldn't it just make more sense to buy a PC rather than a new, slightly faster, Xbox; only to upgrade to a yet slightly faster one the year after?

I can see the Scorpio working the first year, but consumers should catch on after that.

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 1:48:58 PM

Apple does it. And that is what Microsoft wants to. Even if just a small segment upgrades ever year like with Apple, Microsoft makes even more. Also again, its not just gaming and Windows. It's everything, from how you listen to music, watch tv, view photos, your phone. They want to be your ONE source for entertainment. (Or so it has been appearing ever since Windows 8.)

Another thing with the consoles will always be cost. Everyone can talk about not upgrading for so many years but the cost of the platform has been a very,very,VERY important factor in its live from the first Atari system onward.

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mk ultra
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 6:05:32 PM

Not abandoning Xbox, but abandoning hardware. Sorry I wasn't clear.

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Vivi_Gamer
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 3:43:48 AM
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I still resent the whole notion of 'NEW' vrsions of consoles early on in the generation. I doubt this will be the last of them either. I don't mind the PS3 variations, but if the Neo has exclusive performance enhancements which the standard PS4's cannot play, i'm going PC. This goes against the main principles of what a console is meant to present to the consumer as a product. We but consoles so we DON'T have to upgrade every year and for the assurance that when I buy a game, it will work on that console. It really should be that simple.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 9:56:22 AM

I resent them anyway, but so far all indications are they will be no PS4 Neo games only. However, I wonder if that will carry over to VR. Late VR games may need the extra power in the Neo to work imo since they seemed to be hitting a wall with the regular old PS4 already.

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AngryPolak
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 12:49:54 PM

PS4 came out in November of 2013. So saying that you are expected buy a new console every year is a bit of an exaggeration. Currently GameStop offers $175 trade in for PS4. We obviously don't know the pricing of PS4 neo yet but assuming it's going to be $400 and assuming that the trade in credit remains the same, you can trade your old PS4. Spending $225 after 3 years to upgrade your system isn't too bad in my opinion. Definitely cheaper and easier to do than trying to upgrade your PC. That's a little less than $80 a year. I'm not rich or anything but this does not sound like such a bad deal.

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Neo_Aeon666
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 6:57:30 PM

What you say makes no sense XD if it has performance enhancements then you go PC... To the land of inequality XD I think you should view it this way as this is how they explained it:

The console you bought will still have optimized games but every few years when PC gets too much of a lead in graphics, they release a new version of the system that you can buy or can skip. Your games will still play the same but for new adopters OR people who would stop using consoles because the gap is too big... It's the best.

I mean, I could'nt be happier about this. They are taking whats good from PC without the bad. We stay in a reliable controlled online experience AND if we wish, every few years we can upgrade our console and keep playing the SAME games with enhancements! No need to buy your library again! This is the best.

Problem with PC is that anything online is easy to hack (except for a few big titles) As an example good look at what happened to Dark Souls 3 PC players LOL so much for that 60fps... Can't even play online anymore because of hackers.

The way I see life is:

PC is for multitasking and enthusiasts looking for the best.

Consoles are for real gamers that wish to play in a world where your score actually means something and you know that people who earned the trophies or top ladder scores actually worked for it.

The only downside is we always had the short end in terms of graphics for some time even though we do get nice exclusives from time to time. But this is about to change! We will enjoy awesome graphics that we can upgrade IF we want to and have the same performance a high end-ish PC gets with every new iteration of our console.

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Breadlover
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 4:25:04 AM
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Let the real console wars begin then... xD

On a side note, being "technically capable" of supporting the Oculus is quite different from realistically being able to handle it amongst other factors that take a toll on overall system performance.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 9:57:44 AM

yeah, I can technically support a lot of things on my PC. But I can't run Twilight Princess over 15fps.

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Breadlover
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 4:25:04 AM
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Let the real console wars begin then... xD

On a side note, being "technically capable" of supporting the Oculus is quite different from realistically being able to handle it amongst other factors that take a toll on overall system performance.

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xnonsuchx
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 9:22:32 AM
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Seeing as how Oculus Rift system requirements would be a 4GHz AMD 8-core CPU (unless they'd be switching to a 3.3-3.5GHz 4-core i5) and a $500-800 GPU, THAT claim seems to be a bit outrageous. In fact, the rest of the claims about Scorpio seem at least exaggerated unless Microscoff is going to sell an updated XBox One at a significantly higher price or take significant losses to try to get ahead (they can still afford to more than Sony can). I can see PS4K/PS4.5/Neo selling for $50-100 more than the 'base' PS4, but what's being claimed for Scorpio sounds more like at least $200 more (again, unless they're willing to sell at a significant loss).

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 9:54:24 AM

Good point

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 11:15:02 AM

Or not. AMD is targeting budget VR with their new Polaris cards, while Nvidia went for all out power. So depending on the tech it may be very possible at a $350-$400 price point.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 9:54:04 AM
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Oh my God has it really come to this?

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Underdog15
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 10:45:05 AM
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Wipe the floor? I'm not sure I believe that. If they make it too much stronger, early XB1 models would be useless when used with newer games. I can't see them making too much of a separation.

Of course, I don't really think all the PS4.5 or whatever will be all that much greater either. It's just like this generation's slim model. Newer N64s came with slight upgrades, as did the PSOne to the original PS... as did the PS2 and PS3 slims to their early models. They were better systems. But no one really noticed.

This is all just hype on all accounts.

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 11:23:20 AM

If I can make you feels, then I can make you do want I want you to do. Marketing/Politics 101.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 11:34:42 AM

You cant wipe the floor if you cant sell it right ?

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 11:10:52 AM
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<that Scorpio will be "technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift.">

This is the reason for the season it seems. The VR craze has taken over and possibly forced Sony and Microsoft to push forward early. I know that PSVR is standalone, and I also know what they have said about the Neo exclusive stuff. However it appears that tech has moved more quickly than they thought and this is one train neither is willing to let pass.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 11:35:40 AM

Nor should they, VR today impresses everyone who uses it.

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Evil Incarnate
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 1:52:00 PM
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I won't be purchasing either. I think this upgrade stuff is nonsense. I stopped playing on PC because I felt that I always needed/wanted the best hardware. Now, I'm gonna be in same position with consoles.
I'll keep my PS4 and invest in a monster PC instead. Plus, the steam sales are killer and will save me some cash.

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 5:35:03 PM

Steam sales will be the downfall of our society...

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Athrin
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 4:19:42 PM
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nope, i think im abandoning consoles, this is just ridiculous, next thing we will hear is sony will release PS4 Neo 2

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RobN
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 4:26:55 PM
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First off, I think there's no question - if Microsoft releases a new XBox One, it will definitely have better specs and perform better than the new PS4. Maybe they'll settle for matching the performance, but I expect them to find out what Sony has and make sure they beat it by at least a little. They probably won't announce it, and they certainly won't release it, until that's true - even if they have to add another $100+ to the price *AND* take a loss on each one they sell. They can't afford to be under-performing AGAIN.

Secondly, if they tie this generation's VR fortunes to the Rift (which is likely, given their glasses aren't ready yet and aren't the same type of immersive experience - maybe better, maybe not, but certainly different), then they're going to make sure they meet the minimum specs for it SOMEHOW, even if it's with an addon component you can buy separately. They'll make sure the next XBONE will have whatever infrastructure they need to pull that off.

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wackazoa
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 5:39:11 PM

<They can't afford to be under-performing AGAIN.>

I dont buy that argument. They have sold at least 10 million Xbox one units. x $350 ea. on avg. And they are not hurting. Being second fiddle doesnt mean you have lost. It is probably not where they want to be, however they are not hurting.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 5:56:19 PM

They are hurting big time. They closed down almost every game studio they have. There is no profit or up side to running a games hardware division or software division for them right now.

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shadowpal2
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 6:28:20 PM
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games first

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Neo_Aeon666
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 7:08:39 PM
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Heh! Maybe they can use the juice to get splitscreen in Halo! I might consider getting it if they do since I skipped the One because they removed it lol

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Corvo
Friday, May 27, 2016 @ 10:01:49 PM
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Next report:

The new Iphone is more powerful than the ps4

Seriously though, everything is aparently more powerful than the ps4. It comes down to picking your poison, and people have picked the ps4 40 million times compared to xbox's 18m?

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