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Is It Ethically Sound To Want The PS4 To Totally Dominate?

Fans will be fans, but is it right to hope for lopsided domination? Does it make good business sense? Is it ethical?

Many have said they want the PlayStation 4 to dominate the upcoming generation, and to hell with Microsoft and the Xbox One. The Wii U is in there somewhere but honestly, at this point, I believe Nintendo will be a non-factor in this generation. Sorry, but I say it's true.

Anyway, there are several concepts to consider. Firstly, there's the "competition begets quality" maxim, which is pretty straightforward- the more competition there is, the harder the competitors work to produce better and better products, if only to top the other guy. There are plenty of examples of the veracity of this theory in all business. Secondly, you've got the idea that electronic diversity and variety is good for the consumer, as it gives us options. If one manufacturer ruled the roost, we'd sort of be at their mercy, right? Maybe things like innovation and variety would suffer.

That all being said, I have never been a fan of Microsoft. I'm no expert, but every piece of news I've seen concerning that company has led me to believe they care not one whit about the customer. The Xbox One announcement was only further proof of that in my eyes. Sometimes, despite the aforementioned logical principles, we just have to ask ourselves: Who do I want to support? Personally, I don't think Microsoft deserves my money. I'm all for competition and variety but if I have something against your product, I'm not going to buy it. Maybe if more people think this way, that will prompt future quality and good decisions.

What do you say?

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, next gen, next generation, gaming industry

7/17/2013 1:01:32 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (46 posts)

playaplus
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 1:18:31 AM
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my money is on sony...no really, paid off launch bundle

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Kryten1029a
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 1:35:39 AM
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It's not unethical but it might be unwise. Even though I have a healthy regard for Sony, their attitude coming into the seventh gen wasn't anything to cheer the heart, as exemplified by Ken "I will work more hours to buy one" Kutaragi. It was the competitive threat posed by Microsoft that forced them to reassess and implement the features that their customers wanted in the PS4. I'm pretty damn disappointed by the Xbone, but I don't want anyone to be put into a losing position. It's not good for the companies in the market and it's not good for gamers.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 5:50:50 AM

I agree with you. There's been some embarrassing moments during the PS3 years from the Sony camp.

But it looks like they've learnt now, and for that they deserve success.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:04:52 PM

Microsoft leaving the console business would be very good for the industry imo.

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darxed
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 1:43:43 AM
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I would usually side with competition being better for gamers, but after the leaks about Microsoft and the NSA, coupled with the push they're making for kinect despite the obvious evidence of gamers not liking it... I say the h*ll with Microsoft... The gaming industry is right now the most profitable form of entertainment in the world, I'm sure others will step up to take the place Microsoft leaves...

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Cabalavatar1
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 1:54:04 AM
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People still buy Apple products regardless of their reliance on Foxconn (a company that forces its workers to sign anti-suicide contracts to prevent worker suicides precisely because so many workers wanted to leave their jobs but couldn't aside from suicide) and their terrible reputation for relying on coal for powering their data centres. Most people care only about how a product affects them and their future purchases; the rest is just extra info to bolster their prejudices.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:05:37 PM

Apple: Hipster paradise.

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Cabalavatar1
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 1:55:32 AM
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Anyway, I'm pulling for Sony. More people buying their products will hopefully translate into more money flooded to the talented first-party devs who develop the content I prefer: narrative-based single-player games.

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EndZero
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 2:12:23 AM
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Every corporation's main goal is to make money. MS just seems way more greedy. Sony's product isn't doing too good, CEOs take a pay cut. Xbox product that isn't even out yet has a chance of failing in the future, the president bails. PSN breaks, Sony gives free games. Xbox gets RROD plague, MS ignores it.

I don't want Sony to take over, but i REALLY don't want Microsoft to they really do seem evil lol I just want Sony to be on top but for MS to have them on their toes so they don't get lazy.

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duomaxwell007
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 2:32:33 AM
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microsoft totally dominated this gen... whats wrong with someone else doing it this time?

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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 3:15:04 AM

Only in the US.

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Ultima
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 10:25:50 AM

Beam:

X360 dominates in the UK as well. The US and UK are the 360 strongholds.

re: topic

IN the grand scheme, it's probably unwise, but personally, hell yes, I want PS4 to dominate. I would really like to be able to purchase ONE system and get ALL the great games I want to play on it. I dislike having to buy multiple systems that either have different games that I want, or one system has a better version of a particular game.

Thankfully, there was nothing on X360 that I wanted to play. Okay, it had slightly better versions of some fighters I played, but not enough to make me consider purchasing the system. I still hated that though.

Frankly, I would love it to go back to being a two horse race between Sony and Nintendo. Of course, that might essentially be the same thing as a one horse race since Nintendo decided to stop competing. BUt I really miss the SNES days when everything I wanted was on one system and I could pretend everything else didn't exist. NOw I not only have to worry about consoles, I have to worry about portables and tablets/smartphones (I plan to make a run through Final Fantasy DImensions on iOS at some point, though by that time Square might have ported it to another system).

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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 11:10:01 AM

In some regions, duo. World wide combined, 360 is last place of the 3 consoles.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:03:19 PM

In the European region the PS3 dominates almost as much as the Xbox dominates in the North American region.
In Europe hardware totals, the PS3 has 35.2% of the market while the x360 has 27.4%.

Worldwide it's practically a dead race (PS3 wins if we take release date into account).

(source: vgchartz)

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duomaxwell007
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:13:17 PM

"In some regions, duo. World wide combined, 360 is last place of the 3 consoles."

NOWE yes but teh first 4-5 years of XBox 360 release it was way ahead of PS3.. not to mention it got all the promotion.. celebrities talked about having a 360, you seen em in their houses, rappers rapped about it, on tv if there wad a gaming contest/tournament involving consoles it was always the 360 being played... Id LOVE to see the PS4 get that kinda attention now.

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Underdog15
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 12:26:56 AM

It sure as heck better have the lead in the first 4-5 years! lol... it released an -ENTIRE YEAR- earlier and it owned the NA market!!

The fact that it hasn't maintained the lead is a disgrace... it's not a feat that it had it at one point...

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Underdog15
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 12:27:58 AM

Rappers rapping about 360 is really all I need to know that PS4 is the right choice.

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Warukyure [Power User]
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 2:37:33 AM
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While I always support Sony, I hope that this current generation taught Sony a valuable lesson. From what they did with the PS4 it seems that they learned but I hope the success of it doesn't cause them to get arrogant again.

Not to mention a solid winner would be better for developers and consumers. Making games for just one console instead of spending more to go multi-plat for devs could save a bit of money especially if the game is big bugdet or kinda niche. And it means I don't need to get all 3 consoles to get my JRPG fix (I'm looking at you Tales of Vesperia and Xenoblade...)

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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 7:26:49 AM

When did you become bestowed with such power!? lol

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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 10:06:12 AM

He harkens from the days of great titles

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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 3:21:06 AM
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I'd like to see another competitor step up to the plate this next generation. Let MS simmer in its own bodyfat for all I care.

What I would love is to see the Steambox entering the market with a blast. That'd be fantastic on so many levels; Steam/Valve is a great service/company, they will base the console on Linux (something will gain that OS a *lot*), the catalogue of games would be fantastic from day one, plenty of gamers out there already got a Steam account, and so forth.

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Kryten1029a
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 10:28:14 PM

If the other platform holders had to compete with Steam sales, then I'd be thrilled!

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Beamboom
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 6:56:44 AM

Exactly, Kryten. It would put digital distribution on the right track.

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SirLoin of Beef
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 8:22:12 AM
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I think it's totally ethical to want the PS4 to dominate. We're consumers and we vote with our wallets. If we don't want a business to succeed, we do our part by not buying their goods.

I don't think it's wise for total domination as healthy competition is a good thing for companies and, especially, us gamers.

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Swim_Irr
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 8:24:39 AM
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Wow. I looked at the Best Sellers list on amazon.com for all Video Games, and while the PS4 Standard Edition is at the #4 spot, the Xbox One SE is at the #48 spot. If that doesn't say anything, I don't know what does... Yesterday they were at #3 and #45 respectively. And the PS4 has been in the Top 100 for 36 days while the Xbox One has only been there for 13 days.

While I wish the PS4 to be the reigning champion this next generation, I'm not sure it's necessarily a good thing for Xbox to be completely blown out of the water. Who knows? Competition is always good for those that wish to see quality products and services being pushed.

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bldudas1
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 9:21:50 AM
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I don't care what happens to Microsoft. I think they ruined gaming.

Sony did become better because of competition. But only having to develop for one console can really help a game. And maybe everyone would stop trying to make everything into an FPS.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:33:36 PM

They sure played a part in severely tarnishing my beloved Ace Combat!

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 9:29:35 PM

I love Ace combat!!

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WARxWOLF
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 9:23:23 AM
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if I did care about MS then I wouldn't be a member in this site. now wouldn't i?
screw M$

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:08:49 PM

I like your energy, some people still think MS is a reputable company though. Go figure.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 10:10:35 AM
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I want whoever is customer focused to dominate. Ive always felt like that with Sony. Even after the PSN hack, we got some sweet gifts. MS hack they tried to keep it quiet then gave shitty gifts. If Sony loses sight of their focus, they would lose me. But i doubt that will happen.

So no. Not unethical so long as they deliver. PS2 dominated and so did PS1. I dont think we suffered for that at all.

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CrusaderForever
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 10:44:18 AM
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Sony learned from their mistakes plain and simple. I hope they completely crush Microsoft next gen. They won't allow themselves to fall from grace again. At least I hope not!
It will be Sony, Nintendo and then a distant third Microsoft.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 11:27:11 AM
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I think a few things here. When it comes to platforms competing and software competing there's a different angle to consider. A platform provides fertile soil for developers. Software is really what drives the purchase of platforms. In a multiplatform era it seems to me platform exclusivity is nearly meaningless to most consumers. I think I'd be more upset about EA nabbing the NFL license effectively screwing Sega from their football product, and the fans of these products, than SOny having a run away success for this gen.

But it probably is bad that a single company dominates for too long, even in the platform space.

I think we can look to MS's own history as a way of reminded us what happens when a business dominates for too long. I can't think of a single company that so many people dislike but now have to live with. Think about WIndows. They got lucky with a licensing deal that embedded them deep into the foundation of PC culture, removing themselves from direct competition. They're the only company I know where majorities are apprehensive and disliking of their latest Windows product offerings. Yet Windows still exists and seem to be unmovable from their position. People just have to deal with it now. I have no doubt this is still MS's intent with the Xbox. They want to re-draw the competitive boundaries by what seems to me as unethical means.
To me MS seems to be an unethical player in themselves. So I suppose the question for me is what's the worse evil?
Is it better that a company who seems to have the gamer's interests at heart dominate this gen free of competition, possibly allowing them to take the lure of being far too self-interested. Or is it better that an unethical player shares the competitive space with Sony?

I say SCREW MS their Xbox can die with their crappy Zune, Surface tablet and every other crap product they make. Long live SONY!!!


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Temjin001
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 11:44:58 AM

oh yah, in other news..
Bethesda has no plans to develop titles for the Wii U.


That is all.

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bldudas1
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 11:55:43 AM

It's probably for the best, since the Wii U would get buggy ports just like the PS3 does from Bethesda.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:10:51 PM

Let's hope the Xbone joins the Zune on the ash heap of history.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:03:38 PM
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We should all remember that Microsoft is an anti-competition antitrust, monopoly corporation. They have no interest in bringing the best products, just destroying the competition.

I think the PS2 gen was the most amazing because if it's domination which led to a safe haven for third party exclusives. I think that would be beneficial again rather than dealing with MS buying people off for another full generation.

What it comes down to is if the dominant company is trustworthy and Sony mostly is.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 12:26:36 PM
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Was it ethical that MS shipped me a broken 360 on launch day?

Was it ethical that MS watched me go through 7 360's?

Was it ethical that MS only seemed to care about me when I cancelled 2 Live subs?

Was it ethical that MS only addressed the RROD issue when it became obvious?

Is it ethical for me to want Sony to chase MS out of the console business? I don't care really, but I sure want that!

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 2:57:49 PM
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I just don't have faith in M$, first hearing the horror stories of the RROD's on the 360, and now their changing minds on the Xbox One.
WTF which is it M$?!

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LowKey
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 @ 11:56:19 PM
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I say let PS4 reign supreme. M$? I blame every single one of their customers for the stupid stuff M$ does.

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VictorDeLeon
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 1:08:40 PM
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We're talking about Microsoft here. THE most unethical company ever. When Windows was introduced, they gave money to sales assistants for each PC with Windows sold - it's illegal as only the company employing the guy must pay him, and unethical as it gives an unfair advantage. Then for Windows NT they SOLD a critical update to have the OS work properly, when, of course it should have been free.
Then the X360 generation : releasing a console that needed more testing and better components that would of course break and have gamers buy a new console was already dirty, but paying off game publiqhers to announce exclusivity of a game (even having "only on XBOX360" on box) when they knew it'd be released on PS3 later is lying to the customer, shops and everibody involved.
So I just hope PS4 dominates so much Microsoft crashes as all the greedy people working there will try to save what they can and fight each other, thus bringing down the company.

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SwinalTap
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 1:53:32 PM
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Why do people not realize that competition is a good thing? If Sony had none, then they would not have learned from the initial PS3 blunders and everybody would be forced to buy a $600.00 PS4. Also, PSN wouldn't be improving like it is without the success of Xbox Live.

It is ethically sound to want both to succeed. Otherwise, we would stop getting quality...

I will be buying both. That's what gamers do.

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richfiles
Saturday, July 20, 2013 @ 6:46:15 PM

Competition is an affordable and innovative Wii U vs a powerhouse PS4... Not supporting Microsoft with another $500 for a less powerful copy cat system and a few exclusives.

Supporting Microsoft in this generation is a vote for technology stagnation.

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TheRealBOBDOLE
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 5:17:20 PM
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This generation and part of last, i was definitely all xbox. And i love the 360. Personally i think it is leagues better than ps3 all around. Except for netflix. I dont touch netflix on 360, i do all my video watchin on ps3.

that being said, i have around 100 dollars on my ps4 pre-order and none on my xbox one. I want sony to smash microsoft just enough to show them they were stupid for making this box the way it is.

However, after said smashing, i hope microsoft grows a brain and makes a real gaming console because they did an amazing job on 360, and id like a "next" next gen box that is just as awesome.

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Banky A
Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 6:51:46 PM
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im fine with ps4 dominating. means more friends will be on my console for some arcade fighting action/gran turismo

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richfiles
Saturday, July 20, 2013 @ 6:39:06 PM
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I want a PS4 and a Wii U. That's IT.

I have NO desire to get an xBoner for Microsoft. It used to be Atari vs Magnavox. All others failed, but eventually those failed too when they themselves saturated the market. Then it was Nintendo and Sega. That was a competitive duo made in consumer heaven. The 8 and 16 bit eras are looked upon with fondness for a reason.

Then you had Sony come into play. Sega had been making a few errors, and the SNES was getting on in age, but Nintendo didn't yet have their next gen "Ultra 64" out. Sony made a straight forward, simple system, and while it might not have been as powerful as Sega's dual processor Saturn, or Nintendo's 64-bit powerhouse, it was easy to code for, and had cheap storage. Atari tried to but in, and flopped, but ultimately, it was the first taste of a LARGE scale three way battle. Sony, Sega, and Nintendo. Sega faltered, because while their machine was relatively powerful, with it's dual cores, it was hard to program in an era when NOBODY had experience with dual core parallel thread programing. Ultimately, Nintendo won with AMAZING 3D titles, and Sony won with the ease and affordability of their cheap CD format and simple system.

Then Came the next generation. Sony, Sega, and Nintendo. The PS2 and Gamecube were impressive pieces of hardware. I have to admit, I have a fond place in my heart for my Dreamcast, but the market just did not want to give Sega a break, and we all know how that went for them. Of course, twice now, the market pushed a third player to an early demise, but this time, Microsoft filled in the void with a machine that was slightly more powerful than the Gamecube, but built upon PC standard hardware. The Gamecube's 485 MHz PPC processor is FAR more efficient than a similarly clocked x86 chip, and is easily on par with the 733 MHz P3 the Xbox used. (I used to have a 400 MHz G3 Mac, and a 733 MHz P3 PC... I preferred the Mac for doing EVERYTHING. It was SO efficient). The Xbox had more video memory and a faster graphics chip, but the Gamecube had SRAM... so no cycles wasted on refreshing the memory... It was ALL reads and writes, so you SIMPLY couldn't match it's bandwidth!

All in all, PS2 DOMINATED, thanks to it's MASSIVE library. The Xbox had a relatively short lifespan, and the Gamecube, while it did not excel, had long lasting power thanks to good games. The other thing that one can gather from the last generation of consoles, is there is ABSOLUTELY no room for 4 consoles, and with three, they all need to bring something to the table, or you will see one or two of them falter.

THe last generation showed that it was possible for three to compete simultaneously, but i'll tell you what... Though I own all three, I only play the PS3 and sometimes the Wii. I haven't even HAD a controller for my 360 for over half a year! What this tells me, is I don't need two systems that share 90% of their library. I'm sorry, but that's what the PS3 and xBox 360 are... a pair of identical libraries, with a few exclusives tied on to make be think I need both.

I don't need both.

I realized that I am willing to give up exclusives from one side, to make my life financially simpler. I'm not gonna give Microsoft my money, because I don't think this market is healthy enough for a three way battle in the next generation. The economy is STILL crap. Detroit just filed for bankruptcy. I work three jobs and make only half what i used to make working one job.

I do not believe this market is healthy enough for three consoles. I said it before, and I've said it again. If only 2 consoles will be supported, then I want the best and the most unique. That means PS4 and Wii U. There is NO ROOM in my living room for the xBox One, and no, I do NOT feel bad about it. THe market doesn't owe anything to Microsoft. It certainly doesn't owe them anything when they've duplicated the hardware of the PS4, only less powerful, and more expensive.

I will never buy a Microsoft console again. I honestly DON'T WANT there to be another MS console. I want to see Microsoft STICK to software. It's what they do best... err... at least sufficiently. I want to see a return to the two way console competition of the 8 and 16 bit eras. I want to see the day where I can afford to get BOTH consoles, and not worry about missing out on a couple exclusives from any others. I want competition to be healthy, but I don't want to be priced OUT of the competition.

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