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Do You See Next-Gen Systems As Pure Video Game Consoles?

It all depends on how you view the device in question.

Both Sony and Microsoft are calling their new video game consoles "home entertainment hubs." And it's clear that the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One have a ton of features that have nothing whatsoever to do with games. Therefore, they definitely qualify as multi-functional machines, right?

But is that how you see them? Do you really plan to take advantage of all the non-game-related features included with the new consoles? Or do you still see them as game machines and that's that? It's interesting to see people's reactions to such systems, because it really depends on their lifestyle and preferences. There are some who are psyched about all the new features, and they fully intend to use the PS4 or Xbox One for a variety of reasons in the living room. They see such consoles as irreplaceable as the VCR once was, I suppose.

Then there are the hardcore gamers who couldn't possibly care less about all the bells and whistles. Heck, many don't even care about the new game-related features, such as the Dual Shock 4's Share button or the Xbox One's Smart Match. They just wanna play games. I think it's important for both manufacturers to continue to put the emphasis on interactive entertainment (which Sony did from the outset, by the way), but the future is clear- dedicated gaming machines have gone the way of the dodo. These days, anything electronic must be diverse.

How do you view the new consoles?

Tags: next generation, next gen consoles, ps4, playstation 4, xbox 720

7/30/2013 9:46:12 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (38 posts)

bldudas1
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 10:03:54 PM
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I buy a console to play games on, not watch TV or play DVDs. It's nice being able to put a DVD into my PS3 or 360, but that's not why I bought them. And it's also not why I am going to buy a PS4. However, I see the Sega Dreamcast as the last pure video gaming console.

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telly
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:25:11 PM

And tellingly, Dreamcast failed not because the games lineup wasn't good enough (it was, and still is, incredibly good) but because it didn't have the "and" features offered by PS2. So there's something to be said for bonus features offered by consoles. But for me, I don't even need consoles for that stuff anymore. 99 percent of what they offer, I already get through my "smart" TV.

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cLoudou
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 10:15:45 PM
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I guess the PS4 is more gaming focused than the all in one box that is the Xbox One.

The extra bells and whistle is a nice addition but not the main reason I would purchase a console. I would rather remove certain features for a lower price. Just make the best console to play "games" on.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 10:19:23 PM
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I'll just be playing games and watching the anime I've recoded from MKV. I get why consoles need all that extra crap to stay afloat but I don't much like it.

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cLoudou
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 10:21:08 PM

recode, just stream it with PS3 media server. It'll recode on the fly.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 10:40:17 PM

For some reason it won't work.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 11:17:05 PM

Eh, mine wont work either. It only supports a certain type.

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gorezilla
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:12:33 AM

Yeah, mine doesn't support MKV either.

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SaiyanSempai
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:20:59 AM

I can get MKV files to work but not the subtitles, so no streaming anime. :(

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Akuma07
Thursday, August 01, 2013 @ 1:03:43 AM

How did you get the MKV's to work?

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 11:20:35 PM
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Im liking the entertainment all in one idea. Except the XboxOne takes ot too far. As a game device and media/streaming hub and dvd/blu-ray player thats enough. I dont need a system to operate tv channels and so on. Its almost overwhelming and honestly im all for giving machines a break once in a while.

Anyways, but ill basically use mine to game (80%) and stream (10%) and watch movies (10%). Thats how it is now amd that wont change.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 @ 11:28:25 PM
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well apart from the video sharing which i ahve wanted to do in the past at times when i cudn't and maybe some of the friends/social stuff but all the other non-gaming crap i cudn't careless i just want to play games on my games console the ps4.

happy gaming =)

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SaiyanSempai
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:23:57 AM
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Its about gaming and the functionality that surrounds gaming for me. For example, the play while you download is a nice advancement.

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SaiyanSempai
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:30:07 AM
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I don't understand MS's inclusion of cable box features. During a time when people left-and-right are dropping their cable subscriptions in lieu of services like Netflix and Hulu Plus, it seems like they are focusing a lot of effort to reach a shrinking demographic.

An effort that seems to already have hurt their messaging about their commitment to games. Time will tell if it pays off.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 3:14:38 AM
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I must admit, I very much see the PS4 as a dedicated gaming machine.

Back in the days we rigged video cameras or split the video signal to tape game sequences, or used "replay features" to make game videos. Now we got a more convenient way of doing essentially exactly the same.

That I also can use the PS4 to play movies is just a convenient plus in my book. It's got a disk drive so why the heck not. Same with Netflix: It's just a bonus.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 4:01:00 AM
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Pure or not, I'll be buying it just to play games.

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OverBerg
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 4:05:07 AM
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Well, I don't necessarily see having MLB.tv or Netflix on my PS3 as "bells and whistles" even though they have nothing to do with gaming. On the other hand, I also find myself having no use for the additional social aspects that the next gen consoles are hoping to achieve or enhance (please don't make any game or application dependent on logging into Facebook!!!). But, as I said, I can't complain about watching every Twins game via my PS3 on MLB.tv when I now live in CA and not MN (doesn't matter that they suck this year...or last year...or the year before. 2010 was good, so there's that).

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___________
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 6:00:40 AM
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what you see something as, and what you use it as are two VERY different things!
you have to see the ps4 as more than a games console, hell they have practically 1000000000 non gaming features jammed down your throat!
the gameplay and constant recording uploading crap for instance.
what ill use it for though, well, game goes in, game comes out thats it.
dont need it for anything else, ive got foxtell and a wonderful new device called a computer + the internet for everything else!

one thing i loath about todays society.
were so wasteful, i mean when you think about it theres a million and one devices which can do certain tasks but cant do others.
whats the point of tablets for instance?
everything i can do on a tablet i can do on my phone, and more, so what is their purpose?
yay they have a bigger screen, does that really justify their existence?
whats the point of having social media applications on the ps3/4?
whenever i want to use that crap i have my phone if im out, or my laptop/ PC if im at home.
theres so many half devices out there, devices that do half of the things other devices can.
so whats the point of their existence, if theres other products which can do everything they can and more?
next were going to have bread specific toasters.
1 toaster for multi grain, 1 toaster for sour dough, 1 toaster for bread rolls, 1 toaster for bagels, 1 toaster for crumpets, ect, ect.


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FatherSun
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 9:27:25 AM

The fact that these devices sell in the millions justify their existence. If people stopped buying them they will fade into the ether.

Social is population control. Those who can be controlled will be. Others use it a a tool.

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___________
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 9:38:22 AM

they sell because fools are easily parted from their money.
people hate paying for DLC because there worried its been cut from the game, they hate constantly buying new devices concerned its not worth the upgrade.
yet they throw away their money on devices which do tasks the devices they already own will.
its confirmed, aliens really have been sneaking into peoples homes while their sleeping and removing their brains!

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FatherSun
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 10:22:15 AM

I wonder if you are aware that I somewhat agree with your statement regarding redundant technology. If it were up to me I would have One device to rule them all. This is the goal of MS with the XB1. The console at home and their Windows phones when mobile. Too bad I'm just not into MS.

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FatherSun
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 10:48:17 AM

It may not be apparent but I agree with you regarding technological redundancy. If it were up to me I would have one device to rule them all.

This is MS goal. The XB1 at home and Windows phone for mobile. Too bad I'm just not into MS products.

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___________
Thursday, August 01, 2013 @ 10:26:19 AM

im not saying one device, im saying devices that do their own thing.
whats the point of a tablet for instance?
hey i know, ill go spend 500+ bucks on a device which can do everything my phone can.
why?
then theres the whole stupidity of bringing redundant features to redundant systems.
movie streaming services suit because consoles are always connected to the TV, unlike most PCs.
but facebook?
twitter?
youtube?
internet browser?
yea, thats what the wonderful device called a mobile phone, or the even better device called a computer is for!
im surprised you cant access facebook on your frigging refrigerator!

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JROD0823
Sunday, August 04, 2013 @ 12:01:58 PM

Usually I don't care for your attitude, but this post was kind of funny and partially true, but clearly not 100% accurate.

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Kryten1029a
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 7:12:02 AM
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Consoles haven't been purely gaming devices for most of this generation. Even as far back as 2010, at least half of all Netflix streaming was done on consoles. When you factor in Hulu, Neon Alley and other services then it gets even further away from games. I like that Sony seems to be so focused on gaming but that's not all that they're about.

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Draguss
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 7:43:08 AM
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Side functions are side functions. I'll take advantage of the ones I like, but a gaming console is for gaming. Even microsoft hasn't (yet) reached the point where it's an entertainment hub with gaming just being one of its functions instead of the main one.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 7:45:20 AM
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I'm not sure how I'll view it yet. Right now I'd say games, but I can see it getting more uses.

I'm personally interested to see how close (or how far) XBOX One reaches it's billion sold. *snicker*

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 8:08:13 AM
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Games, recording, and Livestreaming is what I will mostly be doing. And possibly a few movies here and there.

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 8:41:35 AM

But yes, I see it more as a gaming machine, and everything else just a bonus.

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FatherSun
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 9:05:25 AM
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This started with the PS2 for me. It played movies, music and games. As long as the added features do not diminish the gaming aspect then by all means.
Having Netflix and an internet browser on the PS3 didn't stop Naughty Dog from creating Uncharted or the Last Of Us.

As far as the social integration is concerned it is absolutely clear why it is being implemented. Sonys partnership with Facebook is genius. Facebook is what.. A BILLION strong now? What company that produces content and services wouldn't want to possibly connect to that many pairs of eyes and wallets?

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telly
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:23:18 PM

PS2 DVD playback was a HUGE deal for me and my friends. I'm definitely a film lover, and back then DVD players were still really rare and expensive (especially for those of us who were still in college and strapped for cash all the time.) I still like a lot of the features that come on consoles, it's just that I already HAVE most of what they offer through my TV.

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I007spectre
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 11:15:20 AM
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I get online and watch Netflix or Hulu Plus every once in a while. But mostly I use my PS3 for gaming.

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kraygen
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 11:22:54 AM
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I like the bells and whistles, I still use it primarily for gaming, but when I want to whistle it's nice that I can.

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telly
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 12:20:43 PM
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The issue with the "all in one" approach that Microsoft and, to a lesser extent, Sony are interested in is that at this point, most TVs on the market already HAVE all of that functionality built in, and in fact does it all better than a separate box could. Netflix, amazon prime, web browsing, you name it -- you're hard-pressed to find TVs that don't include all of that already. If you want to play blu rays or DVDs, who doesn't have one of those players already? Blu ray players are unbelievably cheap these days. Supposedly the Xbox One will let you navigate menus with your hands in the air and no remote. Ok, maybe that will be sort of fun, but who in their right mind will pay $500 for that?

I don't mind that these consoles have extra features, though I honestly don't know if there's a single bell or whistle these consoles are going to offer that really offers anything different than what I already have. I mean, I have a separate TV set up for my gaming that doesn't even have cable on it. Why would even WANT a deluxe, $500 cable box for that?

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Esc
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 1:26:11 PM
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"Do you really plan to take advantage of all the non-game-related features included with the new consoles?"

Absolutely :)

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White_Mocha
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 10:30:53 PM
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In response to the question, Sony has said that their machine is "first and foremost a gaming console." Microsoft keeps seeing their Xbox One as an "all-in-one entertainment device."

Even though I game *hard* on my PS3, I use more of the features when I'm bored, or burnt out. Blu-ray movies are a sure-fire use of non-gaming features, and my collection of movies is slowly getting bigger haha. I still see the PS3, 360 (don't own one) and the PS4 as gaming consoles, though.

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Crabba
Thursday, August 01, 2013 @ 6:40:25 PM
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I use the PS3 for blu-ray movies all the time, Media Server is OK but not functional enough, but if the new PS4 would actually have built-in support for all formats, including accessing a huge media HD library with DVDs and other formats in a simple interface I would consider that a big benefit.

Other than that, I couldn't care less about most of the new features announced for either the PS4 or Xbox1. No interest in share or any other social media cr*p, I don't care about TV-tv-tv-TV-TV-tv or Sports-spots-sports-Spooorts, etc etc.

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JROD0823
Sunday, August 04, 2013 @ 11:34:56 AM
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Neither the PS4 or the Xbox One is a pure video game console just based off of the facts of what the systems will be capable of doing.

Having said that, I will be using my PS4 pretty much strictly as a video game machine, and down the road a couple years or so when I get an Xbox One, I'll be using it for mostly multimedia purposes, and play the very few good exclusives it has on occasion.

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