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Cage: "We're Getting Closer And Closer To True Photorealism"

I still don't want to see true photorealism in my video games, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

The days when games will look very much like movies might not be too far away. Quantic Dream boss David Cage spoke about the topic of increasingly realistic visuals at a GDC Europe panel (as summarized at GamesIndustry.biz).

He admits it won't be easy because there will always be something that reminds us that what we're seeing is fictional, but the PS4 may take the first steps toward the crazy realm of photorealism. Said Cage:

"I think we are getting closer and closer to photorealistic rendering. I don't know if we will reach a point during this cycle where you won't be able to tell the difference between a film and a game, but I know we're going to get really close to that during this cycle."

There's no doubt that game graphics have increased rapidly over the course of three decades. It's downright mind-boggling to see that upcoming next-gen games actually evolved from something like Pong. Of course, this leads to very different interactive experiences and the question is whether or not photorealistic interaction has potentially negative impacts on people. Personally, I think it'd be kinda creepy to have control over things that look exactly like real human beings...

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, david cage, ps4 graphics

8/20/2013 10:43:36 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (22 posts)

bigrailer19
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 10:59:54 AM
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I still think its a ways off. Cage is super good at what he does, and he always seems to be a step ahead, but I dont know of itll be achieved this cycle either.

But I wouldnt mind. Every console generation we always expect better graphics. We also want better graphics. Why else would we want a new console? We just discussed in a recent article the plataue effect for consoles in concerns of graphics and how that might effect devs and even the consumer. So if this is where technology takes us, its something weve all been asking for.

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Masszt3r
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:04:39 AM

I don't really want a new console for graphics. Whenever I want a new console I want it because the new games that will be released for it, new features, the old console losing support, etc., but not for the graphics. They are a great addition, along with better physics, lightning etc., but not a big reason for me to get a new console.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:09:09 AM

I just don't see graphics progression in gaming as being on a continuum where the endgame of that is photorealism. Like once we get there then we're done. I see photorealism as just an offshoot.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 12:35:57 PM

Masstz3r- The PS3 has most of the features the PS4 will have that we know of:Bluray, wi-fi, removable hdd, and so on aside from technical hardware. Games are still being pumped out and the PS3 is being supported strongly. So I ask you what other reason for getting a PS4 is there? Its the graphics progression. Otherwise it would be pointless. Of course with a console comes new games so thats a gimme.

Btw this is hypothetical, Im not saying graphics is the sole reason. But its a big one.

World -

Im with you. Personally I dont think it will happen for awhile, but honestly the longer the better. Im okay with it, but Id hate to get to the point where theres no longer progression in the industry.

But I see what you mean as an off shoot, but what else would we look for aside from story progression, gameplay enhancements and so on?




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Masszt3r
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 1:59:37 PM

bigrailer19
What I meant was that I don't care much for graphics, but I do appreciate them. It's true that the PS4 has most of the features that the PS3 has. I guess what I meant was with other generations; for example, the transition from PS2 to PS3, or SNES to N64, etc. Anyway, like I said, I usually get a new console for the new games. Like you said, right now the PS3 still has strong support, but we all know that will end eventually, which is logical of course, and eventually, we will need to get the new console to get the new games. If I want to play the next GOW, The order: 1886, KH3, etc., I will have to get a PS4. So as you can, see it's more for the games than for the graphics; I should have explained that a little more.

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newchef
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:00:31 AM
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I wouldnt mind it coming from QD, they have the stories and the gameplay mechanics to back it up

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Masszt3r
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:00:39 AM
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I don't really find it creepy, but I'm not a big fan of it either. I think that as long as not EVERY developer focuses on it we should be ok; there should always be variety when it comes to visuals.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:07:07 AM
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I think if it ever does happen it will have a niche place in gaming, game graphics are always cleaner and more appealing than real life and that's what we like.

I think the Dark Sorcerer tech demo already looks better than photorealism because it is alive in its own way as a work of art instead of as an imitation of life.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:25:35 AM
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We have Hideo Kojima claiming photorealism has already been achieved and Cage saying it's getting closer but not there. We have Tim Sweeney claiming photorealism will absolutely be here on the following next-gen.
Hehe
There's some arbitrary meaning there obviously. Photorealism, as in a still photo, is achieved much easier than having realism that's animated.

I think for us gamers we're thinking more in terms of realistic art direction. It's something we see in titles like Beyond, Gran Turismo, and Battlefield.
I think many of us will feel convinced that the PS4 will produce visuals that appear and feel convincingly realistic.

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YesterdysRising
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:26:14 AM
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I don't really care about photorealism. I think all the different art styles that developers use are great. What I'm looking forward to is smooth, crisp and higher resolution graphics. Another important thing to me is further physics development. I want to see all objects within a world have the ability to be interacted with. It takes me out of the world when I smash or shoot something and nothing happens to it. I'm looking forward to Battlefield 4's "levolution". I'd like to see how far they go with it.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 11:49:01 AM
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Just imagine how crappy a photo realistic Mario game would be
=p

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 1:05:54 PM

Sackboy would be kind of interesting, a little stitched doll.

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homura
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 1:23:51 PM
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Photo realism greatly adds immersion and can show more complex emotions. And also it is one of the main reasons why consoles needs to be more powerful from it's predecessor. But it's not the most important factor in a game. Artistic design, story, sounds and music are also important. And art designs will always be there. That's why hand drawn anime and manga are still popular and greatly appreciated despite the advancement in CGI.

By the way, remember the young Jeff Bridges in the Tron reboot. That was creepy for me and yet it still awesome. Also in the Curious Case of Benjamin Button. If consoles can achieve real time graphics like that, it will be awesome.

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Draguss
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 8:09:34 PM
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Not something I care much for, it seems rather unnecessary. He's probably right though, at the pace we've been moving.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 10:07:00 PM
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personally i much preferr just the enviroments gettin better now more than the people.

happy gaming =)

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___________
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 @ 4:14:40 AM
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oh rubbish, were never going to get photorealistic games full stop!
one thing neither manufactures have mentioned about next gen systems is how sound design will be improved.
probably the one area which NEEDS the biggest improvement!
games look pretty dam good these days, but they still sound CRAP!
watch any movie out there and your taken into the experience, a chopper flies overhead and you rush to the window expecting to see a flaming wreckage!
a shot fires off, a grenade explodes, everything has a real pop and ring to it.
games though sound like someone popping a balloon, not a grenade exploding in your face!
really saddens me how far graphics, physics, lighting, storytelling, gameply, hell EVERYTHING has come, but sound design is still stuck where the industry started basically!
hell most games these days are still 5.1 DD when movies became 7.1 DTS true HD standard what 5 years ago!?
the difference between sound effects in movies and games really is as large as the speed gap between the worlds fastest car and a 40 year old beetle!
and thats just so sad.

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Masszt3r
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 @ 8:50:25 AM

7.1 has not become a standard yet.

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___________
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 @ 9:39:44 AM

what?
of course it has, movies have been supporting 7.1 for years now!

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Masszt3r
Thursday, August 22, 2013 @ 8:25:15 AM

As far as I know, Toy Story 3 was the first Blu-ray film to have true 7.1, which was back in 2010. I wouldn't say that is "years", but more like a few years. Still, I don't know many people who have 7.1. In fact, most people I know still don't know it exists.

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___________
Thursday, August 22, 2013 @ 9:08:10 AM

i find that very hard to believe, in fact 7.1 systems are almost the same price as 5.1 systems!
i bought my yamaha system earlier this year and the price difference was 110 bucks!
and the 7.1 system came with 1 model up amplifier.
and anything over 1 year is years, so yes it is years.

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ricksterj
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 @ 9:11:40 PM
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Photorealism is possible (& should've been) in the CURRENT generation NOW (but hey what do I know? I've only been playing games since I was 12 (I'm 44 now)).

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Maruf
Friday, August 23, 2013 @ 11:12:29 AM
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I think photorealism needs more than the actual technology or game engines. Theres also a matter of quite a bit of tweaking every little thing in a game. Anyone here seen the graphics from Assetto Corsa? I have yet to see any game look closer to reality than this especially in terms of overall look. It looks so natural and lifelike.

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