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Report: PS4 Outstrips Xbox One In "Key Performance Areas"

Tech buffs love talking about the apparent power differences between the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

Now, they've got something else to discuss. According to anonymous developer sources cited in a new Edge report, it seems the PS4 is "noticeably faster" than the Xbox One in key performance areas.

The sources say memory reads on the PS4 are 40-50 percent faster than Xbox One, and the arithmetic logic unit (ALU) on Sony's graphic card is supposedly twice as fast as the one in Microsoft's console. An example of this gap in performance was given as follows: A current multiplatform title can run at a resolution of 1920 x 1020 at 30FPS on the PS4, but can only manage an FPS in the 20-somethings at a lower resolution of 1600 x 900 on the Xbox One. One developer added that the Xbox One is "weaker" and it's just a "pain to use its ESRAM."

Microsoft has taken strides to increase the specs of their system over the past few months. For instance, they've bumped up the processor from 1.6GHz to 1.75GHz. So, on the surface, the console may appear to be significantly behind the PS4. However, the sources in question also said the Xbox One is faster in other areas:

"Lets say you are using procedural generation or raytracing via parametric surfaces--that is, using a lot of memory writes and not much texturing or ALU--Xbox One will be likely be faster."

The report's conclusion is that despite any differences, there will be little visible difference between PS4 and Xbox One launch titles. Whether or not we'll start seeing differences as time goes on remains to be seen.

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, xbox one, ps4 specs

9/13/2013 11:02:43 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (40 posts)

Temjin001
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 11:16:56 AM
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PS4's advantages will be felt with nearly every game. Xbox One's might be felt during very discrete instances that aren't likely to be common.

On a side note, I have to say the Xbox One fanboys have been rising. While surveying other sites I check the comments and there's more of them brats cropping up showing their immaturity.

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Highlightreel
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 11:47:15 AM
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"...better in key performance areas." Will that be forgotten immediately after release though? Ignored fo sho by the xbots.

It still is annoying to me that the multi-plats never let the PS3 games shine and always dumbed them down to equal the xbox. Just the way it is I guess, but still disappointing. Then they did those stupid side by side videos of the same game on both systems. "Hey, look at the games and how they're so close." Insulting. I suppose those are coming again too...grrr.

Stay Classy PSX...

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Beamboom
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 1:03:53 PM

Why would they "dumb them down" for the Xbox? What does that even mean? It's essentially the same controller.
There's examples of PC games being made simpler/"dumbed down" to fit consoles due to the limited buttons on the controller. But I've never heard of a game being "dumbed down" for *one* of the consoles before. :D


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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 1:44:57 PM

He wasn't talking about the controller

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Highlightreel
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:38:32 PM

I was referring mainly to the graphics in the games released product always being presented as 'equal' when we know they only did that as to not p-o m$ by showing how the PS3 was more powerful.

Stay Classy PSX...

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:48:41 PM

He meant PS3 multiplats not xbox 360 multiplats. Multiplats inferior than the exclusives.

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Cesar_ser_4
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 4:11:39 AM

Dumbed down? try this on for size. How is it that even though the 360 games rendered @ sub hd quality still managed to look better than their PS3 counterparts, where the PS3's version rendered at full 720?

This isn't just "dumbing down" this is a full on...damn I don't know what to describe it...

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Beamboom
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 11:45:57 AM

Aha - I believe the word you all are looking for is "downscaled".

"Dumbed down" means simplifying something that used to be of a certain complexity, making a game easier/more accessible.

Like how they dumbed down the Marvel Ultimate Alliance sequel, where you no longer equipped individual characters but only the team skills. That's dumbing down.

Consoles have been accused of forcing games to be dumbed down in the past, due to the limited amount of buttons on the controllers.

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Neo_Aeon666
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 5:03:53 PM

A good example of this would be:

FFXIII looked better than XIII-2 and oddly it started out as a PS3 exclusive.

Heavenly sword looked better than Enslaved even though it was a PS3 LAUNCH title.

When developers took advantage of the PS3 the games looked better. Then when MS got in the mix we had a loss of quality and equal or lesser ports due to them changing tech and using other engines because of the Xbox. We can also say games might have been scaled down since of the format constraint of DVDs the Xbox had. You never know.

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Underdog15
Monday, September 16, 2013 @ 9:25:20 AM

I think "dumbed down" fit just fine.

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JROD0823
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 12:01:32 PM
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Well, this only confirms all of the assessments and comparisons between the two consoles since there were enough confirmed specs to do such things.

The Xbox One will still be bought by the millions of uninformed masses regardless of the lack of power, so does any of this PS4 superiority really mean anything to anyone besides Sony fans like you guys and me?

Hell, I even plan on buying an Xbox One in 2 or 3 years for the exclusives once I graduate from college and have the spare cash to blow on it, and I'm not part of the uninformed masses. :)

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Simcoe
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 12:04:45 PM
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Mark Cerny did say in an interview recently that they did a lot of customization and enhancements to the GPU. He goes on to say that for the launch titles, we're seeing pretty straight-forward use of the hardware and a lot of the enhancements built into the GPU are not yet being used.

http://youtu.be/bsl6zmPMje4?t=2m26s

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anjpikapp3
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 12:15:27 PM
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I feel as though we already knew this…the PS4 would have better graphics while the XONE would be able to multi-task better. Maybe it’s just me but when I’m playing a video game, I don’t multi task…but what do I know?!? I guess most 360 people go from watch TV to playing a game multiple times a minute.

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bigrailer19
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 12:20:45 PM
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This is typical Sony though. At this point its a gimme that Sony will have the more powerful console. But that doesnt matter to the industry. This will be forgotten as soon as the Xbox releases.

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Lord carlos
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 12:35:32 PM
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Can't wait to see the first failure rate comparison report...xbone looks like an early 90's CD player that could explode at any moment,where as the PS4 looks like it belongs in darth vader's ready room on the bridge of his flagship Executor...or really well put together.

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richfiles
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 5:28:51 PM

Don't forget, LAST SECOND overclock on the Xbone... They'll be pushing parts to their limits, and thus generating more heat. Overheating has surely never bitten Microsoft in the ass before??? Right?

Oh wait, the RRoD was caused due to poor solder joints cracking under repeated thermal expansion cycles...

Microsoft... When will you learn. /)_-

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 12:54:55 PM
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The MS PR department has been out in force trying to stop these assertions from devs, they won't like a new one.

I hope some have the courage to make the game run as best as it can on whichever system runs it best instead of holding things back for parity.

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JROD0823
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 5:37:56 PM

Ubisoft already confirmed that AC IV: Black Flag looks the best on PS4.

Hopefully this public shaming of Microsoft continues throughout this generation. :)

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Jawknee
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 1:27:53 PM
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Great. We're gonna see a bunch of half azzed multiplatform games yet again. Gawd, MS sucks.

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Aura7541
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:20:57 PM

It's going to be hard for devs to dumb down the PS4 versions of their games, imo. It has been confirmed by devs that it's much easier and faster to develop games for the PS4. Devs might as well make the PS4 version better considering that the install base disparity will be really big. At that point, there's no point for devs to dumb down just to please the very few XBone users.

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Thinker
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 1:48:53 PM
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Appears to be a reversal of the PS3/360 generation, with GPU-based operations (which is most games) favoring the PS4, while CPU-based (fewer or exclusive games) favoring the XB1.

Of course, I'm not a games developer, so this is just a layman's understanding of the Edge report.

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sirbob6
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 9:02:29 PM

I believe that the PS4 CPU is suppose to be more powerful too. The Xbone is only going to be better in quick, repeated, small operations where the ESRAM will have a rather large lead over the PS4's higher latency GDDR5 (ESRAM has an extremely low latency whereas the GDDR5 has rather high latency). Once you have processes requiring memory higher than the ESRAM's capacity (it's not much), such as large textures loading, the PS4's GDDR5 ram will be in the lead due to he Xbox needing to use the much slower DDR3 ram. So the PS4 technically will have a good lead in both CPU and GPU and only fall behind in very particular areas.

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Clamedeus
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 1:53:17 PM
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The tech is there to be used, one console should not be hindered because the other isn't as powerful.

It doesn't make sense to me for them to do that, and if they do. I hope they come out with it so i know to avoid them.

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Lunar_Miyuki
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:20:09 PM
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see what really is happening here is M$ is again using worse specs to force devs to make lower graphics for multiplat games because multiplat games have to be able to have the specs to be played on both consoles the more i learn about microsoft the more i see a bunch of sore losers that will attempt anything to kill sony without thinking about their own consequences though they fail to realize that their only hurting themselves because alot of devs are actually getting fed up with the bs microsoft is doing

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PC_Max
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:25:26 PM
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Since the announcements of bother PS4 and XB1 and most recently their launch dates... my friends who have either console or both or all consoles of the current gen... went back to playing on the PC. And have tried to convince me to do the same.

This whole thing is just a really bad record. You remember those old LP's with that one annoying scratch that just kept repeating the same piece of music over and over and over to the point you did not know the diff between your a$$ and elbow.

I love my games but I am really starting to hate this community. Not necessarily this forum, but in general.

Its gotten to the point I really do not want to be "knowingly" associated with it.

Granted the PC world has its issues and a-holes. But I just want to play a game(s). Enjoy myself and be entertained.

PS4 vs XB1... win or lose... with this whole us vs them mentality and who has the better machine.... we all lose. Or at least look like losers with a big "L" on our foreheads.

Gamers are just becoming embarrassing. The bad ones,who make the rest of us who are here to just have fun, look immature and bad. Good on ya. And it just seems to continually grow and get worse.

If you can and ignore it... Keep Playing!

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sobleck
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:43:24 PM

I've always been a pc gamer as well as a console gamer as far back as I can remember. I built me first pc before I even knew how to use a word processor. To be honest console gaming had me for games I couldn't get on pc, and thats still the main reason I play consoles. I do love the entertainment value as well, and I like keeping my PC away from the TV. I have two monitors for better workflow.

I've become partial to sony consoles, because they suit my taste quite frankly and i've been blown away by their exclusives. I also love the technology. I was hoping they'd leave that cell chip in there, but I suppose its to make developers lives easier. I was certainy hoping the money saved by faster development would be handed over to the consumers. But I suppose thats still some ways off.

I have to celebrate about the battlefield 4 pc specs. They named my GPU and i certainly have a quad core intel cpu as well. I was aiming to update bot or do a crossfire for my gpu to prepare for the new gen, but seems I can hold out for jsut a bit longer.

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Axe99
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 7:16:57 PM

I totally agree about the us vs them mentality but PC gamers can be some of the worst - it's just that for them it's us vs consoles, rather than one console vs another. I've deffo had more trouble discussing these kind of issues with PC gamers than XBots, as PC-only gamers have a certain style of narrow-mindedness that prevents them from seeing the cons of their platform relative to consoles (for me, it's an issue useability and reliability, power's got nothing to do with it - and I've been a PC gamer since the late 1980s, and still am, but only for games I can't otherwise get on console for that reason).

I guess the point I'm making is that there's no sense in playing PC over XB1 or PS4 because of console fanboys, because PC fanboys are just as bad (in some ways worse, as they pretend to be smarter and then just act in the same dumb way). Play what you want to play, and ignore the emotional rabble :).

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telly
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:38:48 PM
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PS4 makes even more sense over the X1 than it did already. A hundred dollars less, far more/better exclusive third party games, indie developer paradise, Vita remote play, robust online support, PS Plus perks, AND as much as 50 percent more powerful? Wow.

For core gamers like me, the decision could not be any easier.

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sobleck
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 2:51:23 PM
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Oh yes, and Ben, the edge article states the ps3 games run at a full 1080p at 30fps not 1020. I guess that makes me happy, i'm certainly looking forwards to 60fps 1080p.

Having battlefield 3 on both console and PC ...its amazing to see the difference it 30 and 60fps makes. On console its sligtly disorienting.

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Darwin1967
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 3:03:26 PM
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Although people are saying there are xbots out there willing to drop $$ on X1, what will be interesting to see if parents will fall for the price gap...as a parent doing xmas shopping, I sure as hell am not paying an extra 100.00 for a system that is not backwards compatible. Part of this battle WILL be fought in the pocketbooks of parents who care nothing about specs and everything about value.

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anjpikapp3
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 4:01:24 PM

Are these the same parents that let their children play MA rated games? Because if they are, I highly doubt $100 will persuade parents from not buying the XONE.

I can hear it now..."PS4 is cheaper mom; Please buy me the 'better' more expensive XONE so that I can play with all my friends."

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Knightzane
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 5:05:29 PM
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Please don't let the xbox ruin FF15...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 5:55:03 PM

too late

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sobleck
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 3:08:37 PM

Hold on World! Not true, I remember the producer of FFV saying that he would build it on a beastly pc rig and then let each device the game is ported to, support as much of the original vision as possible. He said he would downscale per device. I'll try and find a link to the interview but it was quite some time ago.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 5:54:55 PM
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Getting kinda bored with the tech specs articles. Don't get me wrong, it is interesting to read what the developers have to say about the systems and compare it to what the manufacturers' PR folk are saying, but it all just seems incendiary. It really did seem, as this generation drew to a close, that many of the arguments about which system was better had blown themselves out only for the old issue to raise its ugly head again with the inception of the new one.

Not a knock on you, Ben, I understand that you're just doing your job in bringing the news that you think the readers are interested in (and you aren't nearly as forward as some other sites I've seen). I just wish that it didn't have to be this way and people could just be happy and secure in their purchase decision.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 6:12:22 PM

Tech be interesting though.

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Axe99
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 7:18:50 PM

The tech is interesting, but like you say, everyone gets a tad excited about it - a 10-20% effective (ie, perceived) performance difference isn't going to have a huge impact on gameplay, it's just nice 'gravy' - both next-gen consoles will play great games.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 9:11:38 PM
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yeah i a feeling that there was going to be powerful in different and i think we will see those different area's will be shown through the sony and MS studio games and that i think will be interesting to see how that plays out.

happy gaming =)

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___________
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 4:25:36 AM
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can we please stop these BS comparison stories?
its just ridiculous, i mean firstly the software and drivers are not even close to being finished yet completley throwing numbers off.
secondly the GPU on both systems has been hardly detailed, and AMD seems to still be under NDAs so we probably wont see any details for quite some time.
oh and of course everyone always forgets to mention DX11.2 will be EXCLUSIVE to PC and xbox one.
funny how they always forget to mention that.......
in short lets at least wait till we actually have the systems out in our hands and the drivers are at least semi completed!

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Indestructible
Saturday, September 14, 2013 @ 10:16:17 AM
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I think the developer will pick PS4 as the lead development platform compared to the XBone, because its simpler to code for it, and not have to two separate pools of ram. So, it would be less of a pain to get the code up and running initially. Then they could scale back accordingly to the xbone. As a software developer myself, I think the x360 was chosen over ps3 last generation because it was better for debugging and simpler to code for, not because it was the weaker machine.

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