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Would It Be So Terrible If Sony's PS4 Was Late To The Party?

I think it's an interesting question, and a legitimate one.

We all know that it hurt Sony to launch the PlayStation 3 over a year after Microsoft had made the Xbox 360 available. But in truth, I think a lot of that was due to the fact that the PS3's launch was borderline ridiculous; a $600 machine with little in the way of convincing software, Blu-Ray unconfirmed as the high-definition winner, the PlayStation Network still in its infancy, etc.

Sometimes I wonder what might've happened had the PS3 debuted at the same time - over a year behind the 360 - with more going for it (cheaper price tag, for one). And if you look at the worldwide sales numbers, the PS3 and 360 are essentially tied in terms of overall hardware sales. That means Sony's machine sold as many units in 6 years as the 360 sold in over 7 years. This includes the catch-up process during the first year or two that featured nothing but a whole lot of PS3 hate headlines.

So with the PS3 really shining in its prime (as Sony has said; they believe the system is "hitting its stride" right now), would it be so terrible if the new Xbox dropped next year and the PS4 didn't show up until 2014? Look at the upcoming software for the PS3; yes, the shiny new 720 will do great things, I'm sure, but PS3 owners aren't exactly getting yesterday's chewed meat with the likes of The Last Of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, and Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes (yes, I'm aware the latter is multiplatform). Thing is, the PS3 has something left while I think we've seen all the 360 can do.

Besides, Sony has also said the most profitable time of the previous generation came after the PS3 launched. The PS2 was cheap, there were a ton of games for it, and they were coming off nearly 6 years of domination. We can't really say the PS3 "dominated," but we can certainly say it'll be cheaper and it'll have a very large library of games, which is catnip for consumers. Plus, with gaming being more mainstream than ever, not every human alive is up on the cutting-edge tech. The PS3's attractive price tag in the face of the new 720 could be fantastic for Sony, wouldn't you think?

Lastly, let's not forget that Sony has had significant financial difficulties as of late. Launching a new piece of gaming hardware has never proven lucrative for Sony; in fact, it always takes a few years to even reach profitability. Considering all this, maybe it's actually preferable for the PS4 to come out later. I know I'd be fine with that.

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, next gen, next generation, next generation consoles, xbox 720

9/4/2012 9:05:06 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (57 posts)

Mr_Sterg
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:00:25 PM
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I would not mind if it was late to the party as long as the games and hardware are good. I don't care about the whole race thing going on between M$ and Sony. The PS3 turned out fine for me even though it came out a year later.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:07:33 PM
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Well, if PS3 and 360 are tied in world sales, that puts the PS3 ahead of the 360 by virtue of the 360s 3 years of 30% failure rate.

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THEVERDIN
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:51:58 PM

I think that 30% maybe to low, but the PS3 is still going strong. Take your time with the PS4.

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daus26
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:41:18 PM

honestly though, how many percent of failure rate are the original 60gb PS3s? Not hating btw, I just want to know.

Plus, I think most of us who owned the 60gb PS3s probably has a slim by now. Of course, it's not as bad as a person owning 3 plus Xboxes.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:34:56 AM

@daus
About 5-8% over the first five years. (higher over more than 5 years) typical of hardware.

Don't forget, that 30% for the 360 was in it's first year or two!

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Simcoe
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:38:10 AM

Since I purchased it in October 2007, my 60GB launch unit has been repaired three times now: fall 2009, spring 2011 and again just last month. All repairs have required the same fix. While I do wish that my PS3 have been a bit more reliable, I have never doubted my decision to get one. I would like to know about the new super slim unit, as I would like to retire my launch unit.

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daus26
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 11:10:10 AM

@ Underdog15

Typical? No device should only last 5 years, especially an expensive one. Also, I think it's actually 2-3 years when the whole "YLOD" think started spreading like wildfire. I thought it was unlikely, but BOOM, mine suffered it too after two years. I was playing FFXIII lol. I don't know why that's funny but haha.

Anyway, I opened mine up when it broke. Paste was cheap as heck. Anybody that lasts for 5 years has to be insanely lucky. I don't know if Sony sort of planned it or what (to make it only last through warranty), but I still feel bitter about it.

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 12:26:45 PM

I've lost 1 original PS3 60GB to a heat related issue. I retired the other when the BluRay stopped reading discs reliably. I suspect it's a dirty lens but haven't checked it - yet.

5 years of heavy use is actually a pretty good lifespan for consumer electronics with moving parts. Something completely solid state should last longer. However with optical components, fans, spinning discs and so forth, a 5 year life is not really that bad.

Even with the increased failure rate of PS3 60GB systems later in life they are still at a fraction of the failures experienced by the first *3* years of 360.

The point is and was that if the two systems have sold equivalent numbers of units, it's absolutely undeniably true that the number of dead PS3s is a fraction of the number of dead 360s, which does mean that the PS3 is leading in terms of the number of installed units. This has been borne out time after time by connectivity numbers and online subscriber numbers. Even today the number of XBL Gold accounts accounts for at most 50% of the 360s ever sold. What happened to the other 50%? We're all aware of the *heavy* online bias of the 360 and it's games. So where is the other 50%?

The reason I made this point is to say that if the PS4 was late to the party as it were, it wouldn't necessarily be a horrible thing. Clearly the PS3 was late to the party and was saddled with the highest price tag of all systems, yet it's essentially outsold the 360 and done so in a year less time than the 360. If the PS3 continues to sell well, and the super slim brings a commodity price to the unit, sales will likely continue strongly for some years to come. So, despite the rocky start, it would seem that the PS3 is long term a winner, and ultimately may outsell both the 360 and Wii.

If PS4 arrives a year later than the NextBox, but has a better price tag than the PS3 did, and still offers a highly competitive device, why should it not pull off the same trick?

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 4:00:27 PM

My $300 80GB phat, it's been over 3 years, still doing great, heck of a deal.

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Nynja
Friday, September 07, 2012 @ 1:09:22 PM

I agree to an extent. I know that I am likely in the minority, but I have gone through quite a bit of PS3s since launch.

My first PS3 stopped reading Bluray discs just inside the 1 year warranty. Got that replaced through Sony with a refurbished 60GB model. Roughly 14 months later, my refurb got the YLoD (yellow light of death) while playing Killzone 2. The system was always thrashing really hard when playing that game. I swear KZ2 killed my PS3. I received another 60GB model from Sony to replace my 2nd dead PS3. I had a pretty good run for about 16-18 months after that. My girlfriend (should be my wife by now) starting having issues with her PS3 locking up directly after running a firmware update. Her's lasted a good 3 to 3.5 years before any problems began. We sent that back to and decided to trade in hers for the newer slim.

Then my PS3...The same problematic disc read issues started coming up again, only this time not just Bluray discs. It was all of them, CDs, DVDs, and BDs. After so many problems with the 60GB, I just went out and purchased the newer slim PS3 with th 320GB model.

So my household has gone through 4 broken PS3s. We still have 3, 2 new slims and 1 60GB that cannot read discs.

I am also a 360 owner which has only RRoD on me once. If you haven't figured it out by now, that I do game quite a bit. I should also mention that if I were to split my actual gaming time across both systems I'd say it would be 95% of the time on the PS3 and a mere 5% on the 360.

Side note; I find it funny that the PS3 yellow light nickname came from the more profound hardware issues suffered by 360.

I still believe the early PS3s had a higher failure rate than perceived but no where near the magnitude of the Xbox 360. I think it just took longer for those models to $#!+ the bed.

EDIT: To further get the point across about my lack of 360 play time. I moved back in February of this year. It's now September and I still haven't hooked it up...or taken it out of the box for that matter.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:25:32 PM
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PS4 after Xbox 4K (720 makes it sound too low def ;) is how I want it. And I want a more powerful PS4. I don't give a crap about who sells more systems at this point. Many 360's today sell for the sake of Kinect. Whoppie DOO!

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Simcoe
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:39:36 AM

I know we've heard rumours of the PS4 being 4K is this also true for the next xbox too?

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muleymuel
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 1:30:04 PM

@simcoe naww its only ps4. sony is making 4k so its theres only

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ethird1
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:26:36 PM
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Bring on the ps4 right now. I need a new system to play around with. A true gamer embraces new systems every 7 years or so. 10 years is just way too long. Hell, I would take a new system every 5 years if they made em that way, as long as there was a significance in all assets of the process.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:31:07 PM

true gamer... pffft

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:51:39 PM

Pffft indeed!!!!!

I'm a true gamer, and I'll embrace a new system once I've bought it.
Hell, I might even have to fondle it a bit once I've got both arms wrapped around it too.



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Temjin001
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 12:48:17 AM

you are the a true gamer in the flesh, Bikersaint ;)
most gamers cringe compared to your gamer'ness.

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Nynja
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:41:07 AM

If you read gaming sites and search gaming news, you are a true gamer.

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:40:34 PM
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I don't mind if the PS4 comes out in 2014, heck we don't even know how much it will cost yet. Since the PS3 is doing great, it don't matter to me until I see a retail price on the PS4.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:50:57 PM
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While the hate flooded in to fill the 1 year gap I don't think that will be the case again if PS4 is late. For one thing MS has very few exclusives left so all of the multiplat games that want to release in that year will have to release on PS3 too.

PSN has grown substantially, Blu Ray is king, and Sony has taken back the exclusives crown. Also the technology isn't brand new so there will be less of a monetary investment in the architecture.

I wouldn't mind at all as there are just so many more games to play. If they need a year to make the launch spectacular then they should take it.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:29:17 PM

I'm sure MS will just repeat their marketing tactics of this gen, seeing it worked so well for them with 360. They'll appeal to the dedicated gamers real hard at first through buying out exclusive deals and trying just a little harder on self produced ip's all the while trying to jam KINECT 2.0 down their throat, then give it 3 years and they'll cut them loose and leave them high and dry as they go after the drones, save it be for the occasional LIVE DLC perk to keep their $60 annual contract spinning. Problem with MS is their eyes are looking through a scope that goes far more broad than gamers. At least Nintendo's efforts are squarely aimed at game players, even the idiot ones, but at least they like games. I'm pretty sure I'll get the Xbox 512-bit at some point for the extraneous game or two or three that needs loving, but that'll come after Playstation, and possibly even Wii U. I suspect Wii U may be a good place for jRPG gaming ;) And they wont have to be hideous on an hdtv no more.

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daus26
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 12:42:44 AM

I don't know World, 1 year is a lot. MS is very powerful at marketing, and that's a lot of time for them to "brainwash" a lot of people. It wouldn't matter how excellent the PS4 will be if people "think" their Xboxes are good enough, or better.

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telly
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 10:33:35 AM

I personally would be fine with Sony waiting until 2014 -- no shortage of great PS3 games coming of course, and since I buy every console that comes out I'll have more time and money to mess around with the 720 as my "new toy" next year. But I have to think Sony does not want to give Microsoft a year's head start yet again, a whole year to work out kinks, get a great, deep lineup of games on the shelves (and online), fine tune the online experience, maybe even find a way to lower the console's price, etc. If Sony were able to come out guns blazing in 2014, then maybe it's worth it, and the worst thing they could do is launch before they're ready. But if the last few console launches (from all companies) are anything to go by, it just takes time after release to really get things going.

Long story short, my prediction is PS4 is coming out next year.

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Metal Head
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 10:56:15 PM
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It will be a problem if PS4 doesn't have killer games at launch, and have a higher price tag when multipatform games will look almost the same. personally I don't mind paying $600 if I get a backwards compatible machine with PS2,PS3,PS1.
Vita is a perfect example how to launch a new system with games we want at a reasonable price.
The new Xbox is going to struggle in its first year since it needs 3rd partys to embrace it. Sony has the edge on software and hardware.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:15:14 PM
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I think it certainly does matter. Not from a consumer stand point as much as this generation did at the start, I mean obviously the PS3 is doing great now even compared to the 360. But Sony cant afford another slow start. Ok financially theyll probably be ok, but it obviously hurt the PS3. They need to keep that momentum going. What happened this generation was the opposite. The 360 releasing early stopped all of that momentum the PS2 had, goin for the launch of the PS3. That can't happen again. It was a media frenzy and that obviously affected the PS3.

All in all though I'm ready for the PS4 more so because I want to see what it can and will do.

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kraygen
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:17:24 PM
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At this point I don't care when either releases because xbox has nothing exclusive left that I have any desire to play. The only way I'd change my mind is if somehow next gen did a flip and all the good exclusives were on xbox. Doubtful.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:20:41 PM
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Imagine this launch:

Metal Gear Solid 5
inFamous 3
Agent
God of War V
Uncharted 4
Gran Turismo 6
Killzone 4

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 @ 11:26:55 PM

That is an amazing list.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 1:11:23 AM

What's funny is I look at that list and think how awesome that would be. Then I remember things like at the beginning of this generation and I would talk to 360 owners about the great games the PS3 has.

Ironically I mentioned the Same games you did but obviously it looked like this at the time:

Metal Gear Solid 4
inFamous
Agent (it never released, WTF! I look like a fool now!) ;)
God of War 3
Uncharted
Gran Turismo 5
Killzone 2

The same list that I once drooled over when talking about the PS3 could indeed make the PS4 launch awesome!

Funny thing though, when I'd mention those games to 360 owners, I'd get responses like... "I've never heard of those games!" good times the beginning of this generation was!

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Simcoe
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:43:39 AM

How about over the first year, that's quite a bit for day one!? Even still if all these came out in the first year, what would come out in year two?! ;-)

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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 12:08:31 AM
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whoever wins WiiU looses!

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daus26
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 12:18:40 AM
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I can agree with bigrailer19.

I mean Sony can be late, but I don't know about being one year late. Sony has the advantage now. It would be a waste to ruin that momentum and let the Xbox shine for a whole year.

I get the whole launching with great exclusive thing, but we don't need an abundance of it. Fans should know what the Playstation offers, so like Nintendo, they should know that the great games will eventually come. I think showing trailers for a lot of upcoming games is enough to excite people for the new console. It doesn't necessarily have to be at launch, but yes there has to be at least 1 or 2 good launch titles.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 2:57:56 AM
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Of course there can still be great games released for the PS3. It's not like it's all of a sudden broken.

But if Microsoft play their cards right there will be a good pool of nex gen games released immediately with the new Xbox. And if *that* happens, then I will die if I have to wait another year for the PS4. Die, i say.

I'll never get me a Xbox, it's just not something I want to own, but I will be insanely tempted of getting me a PC gaming rig instead.

No. Please Sony, *don't* be late to this party. We've waited long enough as it is. Puh-lease!


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___________
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 5:19:18 AM
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of course it would be so bad!
the reason why ps3 is still getting shoddy ports these days is partly because it released so late!
the reason why ps3 lost so many exclusives is mainly due to it being so late!
it has less features simply because it released later!
almost every problem it has is because it released so late!
so of course releasing last would be such a issue!

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Akuma07
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 5:56:24 PM

I agreed with you up until you said the PS3 has less features.

Troll be gone!

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___________
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 7:52:11 AM

not trolling when its true.
BC, XGC, simultaneous downloads, installing while downloading, keeping the console in standby mode to charge the controller, FAR neater OS, all the kinect crap, not to mention dashboard programs like halo waypoint.


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homura
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 6:20:17 AM
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It will not be terrible if Sony is late to the party, PS3 has a good reputation now and it will carry on to PS4. Besides PS3 has a kick ass exclusives next year, The Last Of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, maybe The Last Guardian, there's also a possibility that Gran Turismo 6 will be in PS3. And if the new XBOX will be release next year, they will have a tough competition with that list above. Besides Sony is just beginning to enjoy the profit of the PS3 so there's no rush. But I do believe Sony is ready for the next gen, it just there's no need to release it yet or rush it for release. There are no threats yet. WII U is not a threat. So Sony take your time in making a God of a console, i'm still happy with my PS3, and with the line up of exclusives next year, why would I complain.

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daus26
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 11:18:04 AM

Remember that Sony had a great momentum from the PS2 days as well, and look what happen to them in the PS3's early days when it released a whole year after the Xbox. It took them till about 2011 to really start kicking strides. That's about 5 years of trying to gain momentum.

So yes, it would be nice if Sony takes their time, but in business sense, it may not be the best thing for them to do... again.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 5:58:40 PM

Yeah but sorry, reputation doesn't mean everything.

If a developer had to release a game for a console, they might prefer the PS4 because of Sony's reputation, but if that is not releasing for another year then the obviously smart business choice would be to release for the Xbox.

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Robochic
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:20:08 AM
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I'm ok with them waiting, look at what happens when you wait amazing graphics, amazing games and only 2% failure rate where as the M$ rushed their system and from day 1 had 3 red lights, disc errors ect... they spent more money to correct the mistakes that occured then actually selling the systems. So Sony can wait if they want cause i know i'll be purchasing a quality console and wont have to worry about repairing it on a regualar basis.

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Nynja
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:37:23 AM
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Remember, even after the PS3's release, the PS2 continued to sell over 30 million units worldwide. PS4 release does not signal the "end" of the PS3.

We are well past the average life cycle of a games console, but I don't mind so much. With firmware updates bringing new features and fixes, it helped to sooth the need for something new and shinny.

In my opinion it all comes down to who can hit the sweet spot first. The right price point. The console that reaches impulse purchase price first generally wins in total console sales. I think it's safe to say in these times, though, most consoles sold does not designate a clear winner.

Releasing first is one way to hit that price point sooner than your competitors, but not necessarily faster. That part comes down to many more variables.

My prediction:

Simply look where the focus is for both MS and Sony. Look at their current allocation of resources. Where is all the marketing being spent? I hear about Sony being at every conference. Where is MS? My educated guess is busy with the Windows 8 beta/release.

Sony is ready to take charge and pave the way with a new open platform. You will see Sony inviting more and more modders/independent developers over to the Sony camp. I believe Playstation Certified Devices and the free Playstation Mobile SDK is a sign of what's to come. They have a vision and it looks bright.

Xbox is waiting on Windows 8. The more Windows 8 PCs and devices out there, the better the selling point for the new Xbox 8. Connectivity will be the star with the next MS console. Integration with smart phones and tablets and anything running Windows 8. What I want to know is how far will they go with connectivity? Will they introduce their own cross-buy system with PC, Console, and Mobile games? Why not, they are all based on the Windows 8 OS. That could be a huge blow to Sony. One other thing. MS rushed the 360 which cost them billions. They won't rush again and I think many early Xbox buyers are sort of okay with that.

I think Sony is aware of this potential threat, this is why you see them laying the asphalt now with the purchase of Gaikai, PlayStation Certified devices and the free SDK.

I love this time of each generation. Competition brings out the best in these guys.

Sony PS4 Orbis - November 2013
Microsoft Xbox 8 - November 2014

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Highlander
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 10:13:18 AM

Microsoft is a Windows company, end of story. They are taking a new direction with Windows 8 and pushing their own hardware platform, not just the industry standard Wintel of the past. Microsoft is spending much more time and energy on things like tablets, phones and the connectivity of these devices in a bid to pull off the Apple trick to rule your home. Xbox is merely an element of that strategy now. I agree with you that to some extent or other, NextBox is waiting on Windows 8.

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Nynja
Monday, September 10, 2012 @ 1:21:27 PM

Well, it turns out the delayed console could in fact be the next Xbox. Also, the latest rumors suggest the reason is a shortage of parts. Particularly the "Oban" processor used in the next Xbox.

Microsoft still refuses to shift the release date of September 2013, but they may have to. They are currently triple sourcing parts in hopes the problem will resolve itself.

NOTE: Most likely scenarios is a full year delay. Though, if supply problem is resolved in the next 6 weeks, it could just be a short delay - such as moving release to November 2013.

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duomaxwell007
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 9:15:47 AM
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yes it WOULD be bad is PS4 was late... PS3 came out a year after Xbox and look how that turned out... I wanna see SOny back on top again and I think them coming to the party late a second time would only be a repeat of this gen.

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telly
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 10:37:08 AM

Agreed. Giving the competition that much of a head start AGAIN is a bad, bad idea.

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PHOENIXZERO
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 6:49:50 PM

The being a year behind isn't what hurt Sony, the price of the PS3 is what hurt Sony. Let's not forget that the Wii was also released around the same time as the PS3 as well and look how many units it sold. Not bad for what amounted to a overclocked Gamecube in a new case and a motion control gimmick.

The PS4 could come out a year later and surpass the next XBox if done right but I don't think it'll be that long, if the PS4 is the last one out it won't be any longer than six months. And this time there won't be a issue with price due to using a brand new format and an expensive CPU meant servers with an architecture that still gives developers headaches.

If say, if the PS4 does indeed come out last and six months later then Sony needs something to show for it while still hitting a maximum $400 price point. Devs are going to be much happier since the PS4 is basically 99.9% certain to be a lot more dev friendly than the PS3 ever was to work with. No more of the exotic architecture BS that Krazy Ken had a hard on for.

As for the Sony PR spin the PS3 is nearing the end of its life cycle and next year will pretty much be the "last hurrah" for it. IMO the PS4 will be out within six months at most of the next XBox.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 11:02:14 AM
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Setting aside console wars and all that, I can't see the Xbox3 having a super fantastic lineup that will harm Sony if it releases first. You get your Halo, Gears, Forza, and a couple other things plus 10,000 Kinect games.

Sure it will have the latest multiplatform games, but they won't skip a whole year on Playstation hardware no matter what. So a CoD on Xbox3 will be on PS3 too and something like Watch Dogs will just wait for the PS4 to come out before releasing.

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sohio
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 11:16:56 AM
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Yes it would, simply because it would show that Sony hadn't learned from it's mistakes; They've had 6 years to sit back and learn from this generation and if they let MS have another huge head start then what crucial lesson did they forget...Again?

Besides, I've (and a ton other people) are so weary with this generation that we'll go out and buy whatever comes out first, just to have something new and exciting again.

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 12:30:09 PM

How are you 'weary with this generation'? I mean seriously, are you just tired of looking at the system itself? It's not like the games will be suddenly so different in the next generation. That just makes no sense to me.

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sohio
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 6:51:37 AM

Well, I'll put it to you like this:
When's the last time you owned the same car for 6+ years?

Had the same tv/laptop/computer for that amount of time?
My God, the last time a new system came out, my sister was in the 8th grade, she's now in her second year of college...I really don't care if there are more games to play that I am "missing out on"; (Per the usual comments I see regarding a new system) There are games I never got to on my NES and Super Nintendo, also.

It's time to move on.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 10:14:59 AM

My car runs the exact same roads every day (and I own them till they die). My console plays different game every time I want it to. The console is nothing more than a device to play the software. If you're tired of this generation, you're tired of the games.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 5:54:29 PM
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Yes. It would be a terrible thing. The PS3 took YEARS to catch up to the 360, and it wasn't just consumers, Developers also took a long time to catch up, because they had got so used to the 360 and started to prefer it. It wasn't until the PS3's sales had grown a bit till devs seriously started to consider the console.

If the playing field was even, devs could no do either of those things, the learning curve would be even, and the number of consoles would be even. Devs would have no reason/excuse to not support both.

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PharaohJR
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 8:42:59 PM
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truth be told..... sale numbers & the possibility of a year after competition release dont matter to me or those that enjoy gaming itself.... when next gen install, this gen will still have games made & we seeing wii is done & 360 not doing much but ps3 still runing...... Sony built on premium longtivity & the blueprint not changing next gen.... we should be concerned bout these next possible systems tryna enter cause they seem to have a new approach to console gaming.

we still got a list of games being dropped for Ps3 that will keep us occupied.... a late Ps4 date none to worry bout Sony built solid in this field. i only ask 1 thing of next gen..... DONT HAVE NO RIDICOLOUS PRICE TAGS OR IM DONE.

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Qubex
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 5:31:08 AM
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I really don't mind if the PS4 comes late to the party - Christmas 2014... there is a huge amount of quality games to be played until then... Please come late PS4...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Highlander
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 10:15:13 AM

Definitely, I have a monster backlog now.

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Id00urmomma
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 2:54:40 PM
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I think it would be the death of Sony to make a bad decision like that again. People want the latest thing now, not in a year... Xbox will win the console battle next gen too if they don't release near the same time.

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ricksterj
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 4:01:57 PM
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Gettin' REAL tired of this carrot on a stick. EITHER GET IT OUT (right) OR DON'T!

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