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Shadow Fall Comes In At 50GB...And You Still Want Digital?

Hope you've got a fast Internet service. And you might want to consider upgrading that hard drive like...immediately.

Well, that's if you plan on getting most of your games digitally in the new generation, or you plan on putting a bunch of extra content or other media (such as movies) on the PlayStation 4 HDD. During a recent Eurogamer interview with Sony UK managing director Fergal Gara, we find out that the digital download size of Killzone: Shadow Fall registers at a whopping 50GB.

"First of all, [digital] is definitely going to grow as a means of consumption. And there are big innovations in the PS4 to make it more attractive and more easy gamer wise to want to download. The Play as you Download functionality, for example, means you don't need the whole file before you go. This is a little bit counterbalanced by the fact the files themselves are getting bloody big. Killzone: Shadow Fall is an uber file--I think it's cracking on for 50GB. It looks it, too, when you see it."

Yes, the Play as you Download feature will definitely be important, considering how long it will take to actually download 50 gigs. Gara added that the PSN has gone through a series of upgrades, but also added that digital delivery of games isn't a perfect science. In fact, he said the file version needs to go through "additional QA and additional testing." And yet, most see digital consumption as the wave of the future.

And it probably is. But are you really telling me that people are so unbelievably lazy that they'll sit there and wait for 50GB to download rather than just driving to the nearest store and picking up the game? I'd get it if the digital file was significantly cheaper but of course, it isn't. I guess not everyone lives really close to a place that sells video games, but neither does everyone have an Internet connection that would even make this feasible. No wonder Sony didn't want to do an all-downloadable games console, as some people believed they might...

Related Game(s): Killzone: Shadow Fall

Tags: killzone shadow fall, killzone shadow fall size, killzone 4 download

9/30/2013 11:01:01 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (67 posts)

Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:15:25 AM
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So, just so I have this straight-

Some people would rather wait hours upon hours (I have a very fast Internet connection and 50GB would take me a WHILE to download), get no case out of the deal, pay the same amount as you would for the physical copy, deal with the possibility of losing power OR the connection while downloading......they'd prefer all this to driving to a store and picking up the actual disc. Despite the fact that the latter option would probably be about 10 times faster and far more reliable.

Really? I thought I'd understand it more as time went on but in truth, I'm understanding it LESS. It's like the acme of laziness, unless you live in the Arctic tundra or your home is so full you really can't squeeze in another video game. I get downloading Journey or Rain or something. It works well for certain experiences. But this...? I'm so confused.

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Troy Powers
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:46:54 AM

Well, the main reason I'll be going all digital is that the price WON'T be the same. Living in Germany, there's a huge difference between paying 60 EUR retail or $60 for a digital download. Even with prices being the same, I think for huge releases like GTAV, I'd rather download the game at midnight (even better if there's some kind of pre-loading that allows me to start playing at midnight) than deal with midnight launches at retail. I'm hoping digital releases for PS4 don't run into the same performance issues as GTAV.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:54:44 AM

You will always have those possible performance issues. I'm sorry, but you will. It will never be as stable as a disc.

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Troy Powers
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 12:03:48 PM

I dunno. I've heard that those who have managed to rig SSDs into their PS3s aren't having problems with GTA. But then you get into size and cost limitations. Either way, to save $20+ per game, I'll deal with the pop-in.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 12:07:04 PM

GTA is probably designed to read both from disc and hard drive simultaneously. And even though hard drive is a *lot* faster than disc, it's only got one head to read data - only one stream. So if two things are meant to be read at the same time one of them will necessarily have to wait until the other is loaded.

But this is purely a design issue.

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SaiyanSempai
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:55:21 PM

For me Ben, if it's a game that I will play for an ongoing period of time then I would rather have the digital version. Like a multiplayer focused game or a fighting game - where I can just play a couple rounds without having to take out whatever flavor of the month disk I have in my console at the moment (i.e. Uncharted or Batman).

So I'm not so incredibly lazy as to not want to drive to the store so much as I'm too lazy to want to constantly swap disks all the time.

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jdt1981
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 6:45:22 PM

I think Beamboom summed it up, GTA 5 was designed to stream data from both the disk and the HDD at the same time. If that wasn't the case, and for most games it isn't, the digital version would be identical to the disk version. The reason Rockstar did this is because of the limited RAM on current consoles, I'm thinking this wont be an issue with next gen. systems.

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Axe99
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 7:56:11 PM

50GB is huge, and I doubt I'll get this digitally, but my main reason for favouring digital is an environmental one (although time and energy factor in as well). Sure, it'd be an overnight download, but I've never minded waiting (I don't have GTA V yet - I _will_ play it, but I don't have the ADHD need to play it on launch day/week/month, it'll still be fun when I play it regardless of the timing).

The benefit of digital copies is they have a substantially smaller environmental footprint. Less copies being shipped around the country, and less commuting to and from the store to pick it up. It's all-round more efficient to go digital, which frees up more resources for other things. I could read a book, spend time with friends, cook or play something else while a digital title is downloading, but if I'm travelling to and from the store, that travelling is generally fairly 'dead' time. Making better use of that time isn't lazy, per se, and can actually be quite the opposite (there are plenty of activities more intense than travelling).

Other issue is space - I game a lot, and digital titles take up a lot less shelf space ;)

The main downsides, of course, are the lack of tradeability, but I try not to trade in titles if I can, because of its impact on devs, so this isn't such an issue for me.

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Akuma07
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 10:50:11 PM

This is exactly why I believe all digital distribution is a lot further off than a lot of people think.

A 50GB download is several days worth of waiting for me personally, and a lot of other people will be the same. Even the fastest internet speeds will still have to wait awhile.

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Condemnedsoul23
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 @ 10:43:22 AM

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but if you buy in digital form, you're stuck with it. You have no way to resell if you are inclined to do so and put the money towards another game of your liking. For that reason alone I'll never do digital unless it's a PSN download of a game that's not on a disk or until physical copies no longer exist.

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Shauneepeak
Thursday, October 03, 2013 @ 4:35:31 PM

Digital might not be so bad if the greedy cable companies didn't limit the United States speed so much to make it seem like paying $300+ for 300Mbps is good. I really loved this article 500Mbps in Seoul is cheaper than what my household pays for 7Mbps. =S
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/us-internet-speed_n_3645927.html

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booze925
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:27:28 AM
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In the words of Doctor Evil:
"How about NO, you crazy Dutch bastard!"

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Ather
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:31:45 AM
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Well, Ben, there's gas prices to think of.

Seriously, if the companies want us to download, they'll have to use massive hard drives (in the TB family), and not charge us more for them.

Otherwise, expect less sales. Instead of us buying and backlogging 25 games, we'll only be able to buy 3 or 4.

Next, they need to add in thousands of more servers (again, can't charge us to make up the money spent.) I spent 8 hours downloading Infamous form Welcome back, after waiting 2 days to even connect because everybody was downloading their gifts. It wasn't 50GB, and no not a majority of PS3 owners was downloading. Now, on release day, millions would download the next big hit, and using 50GB as standard, think how many weeks it'll take. Sure, we can play right away, but what happens when we reach the end of the current downloaded portion? I guess we'll just see a frozen game,a s we wait to see if we wont he boss battle or not at a later date.

Downloading is great for small games and DLC. We are nowhere near ready for full, ginormous game downloads. In fact, we might even see a first come, first download service. Now downloading Number 9. Your number 467? See you in 3 months.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:34:22 AM

Yeah, I've heard people mention gas prices before. And I think it maybe costs most people a dollar's worth of gas to get to a game store. Maybe five if it's a ways off and you've got a gas guzzler.

I suppose if that's a deal-breaker, fine. Honestly, I'd think digital would be more of an incentive just so you don't have to deal with the local GameStop crew...if you don't like that crew. ;)

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Condemnedsoul23
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:32:29 AM
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Yeah, that's seriously crazy. I'm with you Ben.

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gumbi
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:33:01 AM
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Yeesh. 50GB will not only take forever to download, but it will eat up a BIG chunk of HDD space.

I like digital for anything up to 3-4GB. They don't take too long to download (for me anyway), and I can fit lots of them on my HDD. Once you get bigger than that though, I don't think we have the infrastructure to support it yet. Typical high speed internet still isn't THAT fast. I don't know about other ISP's, but I have a 250GB/month bandwith cap. Downloading this game would chew up 1/5 of my bandwith for the whole month.

No thanks, if I want this game I'll go to the store and buy it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:36:43 AM
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And by the way, what's stopping people from just ordering a launch title of the game on Amazon? It'll be at your home on day one. I'll take the shipping costs over the 15 freakin' hours it would take to download the game.

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fatelementality
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 5:01:47 PM

Not to mention if you have Amazon Prime (well worth it btw) you get free shipping :)

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jdt1981
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 6:52:58 PM

That's what I did with GTA V but after paying tax and 2 day s&h I ended up paying $72 and change, even at a local store I would've paid 6% tax. The digital version on the PS store would've cost me $59.99 and not a penny more. That's something you have to factor when comparing digital to retail.

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Akuma07
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 10:51:11 PM

If 15 hours waiting is too long for you Ben, I won't tell you how long it takes me :)

I have downloaded several digital titles because of PS+ and some of them have taken a lot longer than 15 hours ahahaha. A LOT longer.

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Geobaldi
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 @ 2:51:33 AM

Doesn't help that consoles download at slower speeds then PC's do. It took hours for my PS3 to download a game, where my PC took less then half that time to download something of the same size.

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___________
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 @ 4:46:11 AM

i stopped ordering games online simply because AU post are F*CKED!
so many times ive asked for launch day shipping and the thing never turns up till like 4 days after release.
another thing i hate the lazy a$$ drivers just jump out of the van, pop a card in the letterbox, and drive off.
they dont bother ringing the bell, ive sat out on the front porch and watched them quite a few times.
so why am i paying 15+ bucks for delivery when i still need to go to the post office and collect it anyway?
complained to the delivery company god knows how many times but as usual its just yea yea will talk to them and as usual nothing ever happens.
just like the sure ill take a message and they will call you back people.
customer service has gone to the sh*tter these days!

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Shauneepeak
Thursday, October 03, 2013 @ 4:42:11 PM

@Akuma I feel ya, my internet speed may be rated at 7Mbps but I wasn't even getting that for a very long time because my ISP is so bad. It would probably max out at around 3.5Mbps but on average be around 0.3-1.5Mbps I downloaded Uncharted 3 with those speeds. I can't even remember how long it took all I know is I started the download shortly after I woke up went to bed that night it still wasn't done woke up the next morning and it still had a ways to go.

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Shauneepeak
Thursday, October 03, 2013 @ 4:50:17 PM

@__________
Omg I don't know what delivery service it was but I ordered a pair of Skis online once they ended up arriving while my family was visiting my grandmother we came home big long ski shaped box just leaning against our fence in open view of the street. What kind of moron leaves $600 pair of skis just lying around in the open the box even had the websites name on the stamp saying Skis Snowboards and apparel or something along those lines....
So even if I order a game off of gamestop.com I always choose pick up at store because I don't want to deal with crap like that.
Those delivery people should seriously be fired.

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Gabriel013
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:45:44 AM
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I have a 20mb dl speed and the average in the UK is now just under 15mb.

That would take a long time to download especially as I get throttled once I dl 1gb in a 24 hours period.
Not to mention there is the restriction of the destination server I am downloading from.

How about I preorder the game and it arrives in the post on day 1 or 2. Or if I don't preorder then I order it (undoubtedly cheaper) post launch and it arrives after a few days. Or as Ben mentioned go to the store and buy it.

I can't think of any game I've seen and thought "I must buy and play this immediately".

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Beamboom
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:50:23 AM
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I would assume that Sony by then have implemented a function where you can download the game before it is released, with the game being locked on your machine until the launch. That's how it works on Steam and it's almost a requirement for such large files. You can then start playing the second it is launched.
Also it helps spread the load on the servers.

It's first and foremost the industry who wants the digital distribution - not the consumers.
But my experience with it so far is in fact very good. I am however worried about the consequences in the long run, in regards to pricing. But other than that I welcome it.


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bigrailer19
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:52:55 AM

Except when you have a 500gb hdd and games are consuming 50gb a piece. Nice your collection will consist of 10 games. Cool!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:56:37 AM

To go all digital with the PS4, you automatically have to upgrade the HDD, which is a significant cost. To download all the time, you're relying entirely on your connection and the hope that no other problems arise, problems which don't occur with discs.

I don't care if it can be pre-downloaded or not. Until the entire process gets a LOT more advanced, I call it a colossal waste of time, and an even bigger waste of time if you call yourself a true collector.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:59:38 AM

Yeah 50gb is insanely much. I would assume this means the game is either mindbogglingly huge with tons and tons of high-resolution textures. Either that, or a ridiculous amount of cut-scene videos.
Let's hope it's not just the latter. :/

But I seriously doubt that 50gb is in any way representative for the average size of games next gen.

In regards to collectors that is of course a different topic altogether. But I'm just a gamer, not a collector. I'll buy the collectors editions of my most treasured franchises, but that's about it.

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Akuma07
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 10:52:01 PM

I actually don't think it is the industry that wants it. Maybe the games industry, but not retail.

All digital would destroy the retail games industry.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 @ 1:47:26 AM

It's *obviously* not the retailers that wants it. That goes without saying.

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bigrailer19
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:51:40 AM
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I dont know why its 50gb nor do I care. This is the point Ive been making about an all digital system and this proves it wouldnt work. The lack of internet connections still plagues many people, slow speeds plague more people who have a connection than those whoo have faster speeds, and on top of that this eliminates a huge portion of hdd space.

Now, I have a 10mbps download speeds and man it still took a 800mb file around an hour +/-,  to download and install. Although you can start playing before the download is done that's not even 2% of the damn 50gb file.

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xenris
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:53:49 AM
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I think that is insanely big. Nothing on Steam I have is that big. I have a couple free mmos that were about 20 gigs though.

I think digital should be cheaper. For them to charge the same amount is a joke. They make about 14 bucks per copy sold at gamestop and now I'm not saying digital copies have to be that cheap but if sony is distributing first party games over PSN then I would think the games should be significantly cheaper as it is 100% profit, and the servers aren't going to cost that much either.

If digital games on the PS4 were 40 bucks I would be more inclined to buy them. Add in the option to buy ONLY the single player or the multiplayer for 20 bucks a piece and now you are getting a model that is better than F2P and gives consumers lots of options.

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anjpikapp3
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 12:53:49 PM
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Sorry, but I am a media person and would rather have physical copy's. What happens when you want to sell your library? You have to release your account to someone else so that they can play it?!?! NOTE: I’ve seen this with the PS3, people “selling” their digital libraries by releasing their e-mail and password when you purchase. That's okay...I'll take a physical disc over an imaginary copy any day.

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Simcoe
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:06:20 PM
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If the digital download file is 50 GB (and assuming it's compressed), how many blu-ray discs is this game going to come on?!

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Beamboom
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:29:50 PM

Actually I believe the storage capacity of a dual layered blu-ray disc is precisely 50gb.

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telly
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:30:11 PM

I'm guessing one since the dual-layered discs are 50 GBs each (I think so, anyway.) But crazy to think about -- games next gen might end up coming on multiple blu-rays at this rate. That is frigging HUGE.

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Simcoe
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 2:05:03 PM

If the download file is 50 GB, is the final, unpacked HDD footprint still 50 GB? I've read that for many disc based games, a lot of content is written more than once on the disc to cut down on head travel time. So the download version of a game is usually smaller, than the disc-based version of it, regardless of any file compression the download version might be using.

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Akuma07
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 10:53:03 PM

Improvements with Bluray technology means that we are currently capable of producing disks worth about 250gb I believe.

Commercial availability is limited to 100gb discs max at the moment though.

The next disc format will be several TB's per disc, or more. Holo-disc technology was developed around 2005 and can hold up to a potential 6TB. So we have the technology available. I don't know why Sony didn't go with HVD for the PS3 format.

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homura
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:09:09 PM
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Well. At least Sony is providing an option for those digital download minded people. As for me, even if I have an amazing internet connection (which I don't), I still prefer the smell of a freshly opened brand new game and admire the beautiful cover art before inserting the disc and play game. And I love those Steelbook case especially The Last Of Us (a white Ellie's face on a black backround) haunting.

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Kiryu
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:21:45 PM
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Still the world hasn't tried the Play Go feature which lets u play as you download.
Killzone Shadow Fall has seperate download for Single Player and Multiplayer.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:28:12 PM
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I'm wondering how the download parts will work. Where you can pick what part of the game you want to download first to cut down on size and time and get into the game faster. (not sure if it has a technical name for it) (Also what Kiryu Said)

I have a pretty good download and upload.
Down:55 Up:25-30

I don't think every game will be that size though for Digital. I just can't wait to get my hands on the PS4 to test it out.



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telly
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 1:29:14 PM
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Without hyperbole, probably the single best argument for sticking with physical games media yet.

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AcHiLLiA
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 2:12:46 PM
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Well first of all I don't have super fast intenet connection, so can't rely on games that take up a huge chunk of HDD space.. Heck I'm not interested even downloading half the size of what Killzone: SF is going to take.

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MRSUCCESS
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 2:39:43 PM
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I don't know about you all but I walk to my local gamestores... yes gamestoreS because there's more than one.

It's one of the best things about living in NYC. Convenience is very good.

I agree with Ben though, it's just modern day laziness. That's why there are so many obese people in this country. Don't mean to compare games to ****Y but if it was to get some punani then they'll make the trip lmao.

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ProfPlayStation
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 2:45:43 PM
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This pretty much sums it up.

Digital distro is great for smaller developers who can't yet compete with the big boys. It gives them easy consumer access, easy distribution, and can build their rep.

But digital replacing physical en masse? No, that's not happening. Not in this upcoming generation, and not in the one after that. We'll use HVDs or some such disc, because capacity demands will only continue to increase.

And despite all the publisher revenue percentage graphs, people don't *want* digital and online only. Some do. Most don't. Xbox One made that clear enough. There is a massive difference between buying a cheap map pack or an indie title, and buying absolutely everything digitally.

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telly
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 3:03:43 PM

When we see hard drives and cloud storage solutions that allow virtually limitless storage space AND internet speeds are able to hide the mountains of data that must be downloaded and uploaded constantly in such a scenario, we can talk about moving off physical media. Until then, it just seems silly.

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Brighat
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 3:18:53 PM
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That's a problem here in Canada with bandwidth limits. I currently have a 150 GB limit on my account. I'd have to buy the game near the end of my monthly usage period. 50 GBs is too high for me to give up early on. I'll probably stick with hard copies and download the PS+ stuff near the end of my monthly usage period. At least games will be playable without a full download.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 3:18:54 PM
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Maybe when the NBN gets rolled out... Oh wait, under the new government the theoretical peak speed of the NBN is basically halved because they want to save money. Damn. Guess I'm sticking to physical media.

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Knightzane
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 4:56:21 PM
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Who wouldn't want that awesome KZ: Shadowfall box art? Anyway, I really wonder if games will download faster at that much memory. Considering games on steam download much faster than games on my ps3. It took me around 2:45 minutes to download GTAV and I pay Comcast 57$ a month just for internet. So, 18gb takes about 3 hours. 50 would equal almost 11 hours. But I do believe games will download faster on the ps4. If they don't well damn. But I have my hopes up. I still plan on buying most games on disk. Every exclusive is on disk automatically since I know it'll be worth every penny.

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ethird1
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 4:57:15 PM
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I have said this time and time again about large gaming files and a lousy 500 gbs of memory. It is going to be like the PS1, and the harddrives will take the place of our old memory cards.

This is why we should ALWAYS have the option of hard copies or digital.

CLOUD GAMING could end up killing gaming unless the internet gets real cheap and available to everyone. Well, not for Nintendo anyways. Just thought I would throw this in here. :)

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shiroxkatsuya
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 5:34:49 PM
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until more internet service providers offer unlimited bandwith, an all digital age will still be out of reach for most of us. i also still think that next gen systems should of come with a 1 tb hdd at least.

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Masszt3r
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 5:41:27 PM
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I'll keep on passing on those digital games. Nothing like opening the box for the first time and smelling the greatness and having your collection stacking up \m/.

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PC_Max
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 6:32:23 PM
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Holy crap! And thats the digital version? Not saying the disc version is smaller.... just more convenient. Ummm... and the advantage of digital is..? Cuz I know price cannot be it.

I'll pass... not that I am day one purchase.

Keep playing!

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pavlovic
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 7:06:42 PM
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Actually in Mexico is cheaper to buy digital, about 20 USD

I've been dowloading a lot of games lately and only buying disc of select games as Last of Us and Beyond.

But 50Gb? I'm thinking in ordering from amazon paying international shipping, will still be cheaper than going to a retail

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PlatformGamerNZ
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 7:28:10 PM
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well idk who wants to go all digital if thats how big the downloads are i think i''stick with disks for a long while just like i planned seems more viable atm gud luck to any who try to download 50 gigs

happy gaming =)

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Temjin001
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 7:29:30 PM
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The stream while playing thing will help with this. Is it confirmed the PS4 ships with a 500GB HDD?
If Sony supplies a large enough HDD and also improves their PSN download speeds it shouldn't be so terrible.
If they don't do both of these things it would be sucky.

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Temjin001
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 7:34:03 PM

.... and seeing that 2TB HDD's can be had for under $100, I'd hope Sony doesn't skimp on us.

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Draguss
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 9:11:22 PM
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Doesn't really make that big a difference to me. It generally takes about a week for my games to arrive anyways. Not that I download much anyways, unless I feel a game isn't worth the import tax.

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EndZero
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 10:47:32 PM
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I'm upgrading my hard drive to 1TB. And that's only for indie games or stuff smaller than 3 gigs. Everything else is disc buy. Digital just doesn't make sense for big titles yet. Even when it does..

.. disc. Even if it takes 5 seconds longer to load. I'm from the PS1 days i'm not gonna cry over that.

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EndZero
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 10:47:32 PM
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I'm upgrading my hard drive to 1TB. And that's only for indie games or stuff smaller than 3 gigs. Everything else is disc buy. Digital just doesn't make sense for big titles yet. Even when it does..

.. disc. Even if it takes 5 seconds longer to load. I'm from the PS1 days i'm not gonna cry over that.

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JROD0823
Monday, September 30, 2013 @ 11:38:26 PM
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And this is why I said that 500 GB HDDs would not even remotely come close to being enough.

2TB is a safe size, unless you can shell out the cash for one of the newer 3 TB HDDs.

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___________
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 @ 4:57:41 AM
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now that you have to pay to play online i hope $ony at least uses some of that money to update their goddamn ancient servers!
its just ridiculous i can download a steam game, 15+GBs, within TWO hours, but it takes me 20+ hours to download a simple demo or PSN game max 5GBs, a THIRD of the size, yet it takes me TEN times longer!
WTF!?
not to mention if i had a nickel for every 5 MILLIONTH time i got kicked off PSN with the 8002AD23 error code id be a multi billionaire by now!
must happen 5 times a day, at least!
customer supports been a massive help too, might as well ring bang and olufsen and ask them to fix it for me!

oh well, hopefully the massive increase of files now, especially now with 4K, if memory serves me the first piece of entertainment ever to be created was a documentary just under a hour long and it was 200GBs!
200GBs for 1 hour!?
so most movies these days will be roughly 400GBs!?
and here i was thinking what the blazing hell would i need a 3TB HDD for...................
oh well, hopefully that will mean the prices of TB HDDs will go down drastically.

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Neo_Aeon666
Tuesday, October 01, 2013 @ 10:13:04 AM

mmm well I agree that it is slower. Like I would download at 2-3 mb/sec from PS3 and I can go up to 4 mb/s on steam but I just want to mention I downloaded SSV Arcade edition last night and it took me around 1hr30-2hrs to download 18gb. So yeah don't know if they were having a bad day in your case or maybe you are dramatising it a lot XD lol

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gamer4lifexxx
Thursday, October 03, 2013 @ 1:50:08 PM
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ill stick with physical copies of games,movies on dvd/blu-ray and music on CDs for as long as I can.. physical is always better then digital fro music, movies and games.

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Caanimal
Friday, October 04, 2013 @ 5:00:40 PM
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The last LARGE digital download I got from PSN was the stand-alone for infamous 2, the Festival of Blood. It was about 7 gigs and took about 40 hours to download it. That is at the second fastest DL speed from my provider, and that's costing me about $75 alone, I spend about $125 a month on the full bundle I have. I do NOT want to wait around for THAT amount of information to DL, "Play as you Download" or not... Even though I no longer have a car, the 15 minutes it takes to bike to my GameStop (don't want to hear it, haven't ever had ANY problems w/ them)is not an issues what so ever.

I'm w/ you Ben, I just do not see the "benefits" of digital downloads, and honestly, if they ever go DDL only I will stop playing new games... Besides, I love looking at my collection, which goes back to original PlayStation days, and enjoy buying my Collector's Editions for all the neat little odds and ends they include.

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Lunar_Miyuki
Friday, October 04, 2013 @ 6:40:21 PM
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people would rather download games free with psn+
so if their gettng a free game some people dont care how long the download takes

lets use another example to why some people will download games for instance over here in NA dynasty warriors 7 empires warriors orochi 3 were both digital only because of SOA sony of americas BS policy that devs couldnt sell physical copies of games without english voices in america and yes their was games that did bypass this law so in cases like this where its either import or download theirs alot of people willing to download

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