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What Must The PS4 Do To Convince Consumers Out Of The Gate?

There are a number of factors to consider when making any sizable purchase.

And assuming the PlayStation 4 will be viewed by most as a "sizable purchase," what do you think is the most critical element for the new machine?

Many will make it simple- "Just gimme the games I want," they'll say. Ah, but that's wicked subjective and what that translates to for Sony is, "Give the PS4 games that sell." And that means that we'll either need amazing-looking exclusives that are promoted to the death or recognizable franchise names like Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Killzone, etc. But of course, it's more complicated than that.

Price is always a huge issue; is it the biggest issue for most consumers? Or is it more like, "I'll pay a little more if the games kick ass?" Then again, if the system is $600 or more, many simply won't be able to swing it, regardless of software quality. Then there's the question of backwards compatibility, which is always a sticky situation early on during a generation. Sony was right in saying the cry for b/c wanes as a generation moves on (that's only logical), but right off the bat, gamers are gonna have a lot of PS3 titles they'll still want to play. Let's not forget that PS3 games will continue to be made for at least a couple years after the PS4 launches... Furthermore, what about available space in an entertainment center or something like that...?

So what's most important for you? What tops your list? What will Sony have to produce for you to say, "Yes, I'm getting the PS4 on day one"?

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, new playstation, ps4 games, ps4 price, sony

9/16/2012 8:57:34 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (77 posts)

ZettaiSeigi
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:21:19 PM
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I don't think Sony can afford to release another console with a $599 price tag. That, along with the lack of big launch titles, made the PS3's launch a very rocky one. 2007 is already far behind, but I'm sure Sony could still recall those days and would like to keep that as a bad memory.

Personally, I'd like to see a bunch of quality titles launching along with the PS4. I just hope it will be a mix of new IPs and a few recognizable franchises (e.g. Uncharted, Infamous, Gran Turismo, etc.) I am probably better off not holding my breath for it, but it will be good to see backwards-compatibility for my existing PS3 games at least. A more seamless connectivity with the PS Vita would also totally rock!

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jlch777
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 8:41:21 AM

Yeah! They should hit the $399 sweet spot for a launch console, along with gran turismo as a launch game.

But then again i will by the ps4 no matter the cost!:)

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bebestorm
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:25:59 PM
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Good thrid party games especially from my favorites because Sonys first party games generally aren't appealing to me besides Quantic Dream and Team ICO.

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Yukian
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:28:55 PM
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Final Fantasy VII remake... nuff said.

Lol, I would like the revival of RPG's (Legend of Dragoon, FF's, Suikoden, etc.), the downsizing of FPS's, 1080p for ALL games, plug'n'play games (pfft, like that'd happen...) and the death of DLC (last one's more likely!) :D

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Fane1024
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 1:17:08 AM

I agree with about half of this, so I can't decide which thumb to give it.

For my part, a price tag under $400 and backwards compatibility (more for PSN games than disc games) are the key elements. Oh, and a functional browser.

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firesoul453
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:30:23 PM
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Just some awesome games, squeals and original IPs!

Simple as that.

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Gamer46
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:32:53 PM
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I can't speak for others but it honestly wouldn't take much to get me on board. I hopped on the Vita bandwagon right away because of Uncharted day one and knowing MLB 12 The Show, Mortal Kombat, Gravity Rush and LBP were soon to follow. All I need from PS4, an acceptable launch price ($400-$450), one killer game like Uncharted 4 or something else from one of Sony's studios, and the promise of great of at least 3-5 other games in the launch window that I would want.

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Knightzane
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:40:18 PM
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Sony will have to be sure to label it as Playstation and im sold on it. Its never let me down

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:46:58 PM
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Btw, check Twitter for a site status update.

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Killa Tequilla
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 10:21:17 PM

Why are you making me check twitter!?

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BikerSaint
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 11:37:46 PM

Killer Tequilla,

I think Ben means this Twitter tweet made about 2 hours ago....

ATTENTION PSXE readers: Server transition between today and tomorrow; just an FYI.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:01:00 AM

You must check the Twitter, damnit...if I'm taking the time to update it a lot, you better check it! :)

...no, I don't like it, either, but hey...

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:56:45 AM

And BTW, that was the first time I had ever checked twitter.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:21:25 AM

@Ben: If you are obliged to tweet stuff, can't you at least please cross publish it to Facebook too, so that those of us who don't care much for the toilet wall they call Twitter can get the messages too. There are plenty solutions out there who let you post on multiple social networks all at once.

And then finally, tell your boss to add your twitter feed to this page and you are good to go. :)

I mean, seriously; "Go to twitter to read a message about this server..." Gimme a break. Slap your boss with a floppy trout. :/

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Underdog15
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 7:41:59 AM

Wait, what? Of the two between facebook and twitter, TWITTER is the toilet wall? erm...

At least on twitter there is a decent degree of professional networking that goes on. And you only get the feed from people you WANT to get feed from. And you don't get countless requests to play stupid games. I have both, and facebook is definitely the trashier of the two.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 9:59:37 AM

Then that's your opinion Underdog, and thus perfectly illustrate why one should publish on both platforms.
Some prefer one, others prefer the other. As a professional you want to reach both groups. Publish on both, and case is solved.

(But in your own interests sake you really should look into how to block game requests on Facebook, if that is such a bother. Same goes with who you want to include ("follow") in your news stream.
You need not see a single post from someone on your friends list should you choose not to. All that has been easy to configure since long ago. And you can "follow" persons and organizations on FB just like on Twitter, they need not be on your friends list.)

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Underdog15
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 5:40:38 PM

Thanks for the tutorial, but I know perfectly well how facebook works. And with blocks, preferences, security settings and more, Facebook is still easily more invasive by a long shot. It's not really opinion. It's the nature of how the two are, and twitter remains more professional. Hands down. You want to social network on something like facebook, you don't use facebook. You use LinkedIn.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 1:52:04 AM

It sounds to me that you only want to use internet in your professional work. LinkedIn is a fundamentally different tool than Facebook (or Twitter). LinkedIn is a tool for professional networking. Facebook is for your private network. If we are friends and share an interest in music, I'd use your Facebook-wall to post a cool clip I found at Soundcloud - I'd not do that on LinkedIn (and I *could* not either - there are no functionality for that).
And likewise, I got my CV published on LinkedIn. There is no place to do such a thing on Facebook - and why should there be. They are not interchangeable. :)

But hey, if you don't like Facebook you don't like Facebook and there is no problem with that.


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Kevin5
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:51:05 PM
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For me it needs to be a big leap in graphics & have enough quality games for me to justify buying it.

I don't think either will be an issue with the PS4 therefore buying it, I shall.

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The X Factor 9
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:52:17 PM
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Show me the software in the works. Impress me with the hardware. Keep the entry point below $500 with backwards compatibility and I'll consider a day one purchase.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 9:52:21 PM
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Day 1 for consoles is a rarity for me, it would have to be well priced, have full Playstation brand backwards compatibility, and at least one epic JRPG at launch time.

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Highlander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 1:30:07 AM

If they put out an epic JRPG, all I can say is that they better put their weight behind the project and publish it themselves as well as delivering on all support promises.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:19:02 AM

Highlander, speaking of that: In regards to the WKC DLC, can't you just make a Japanese account and buy it from the Japanese store?

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Underdog15
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 7:45:07 AM

Yeah, but then he'd have to learn Japanese, too. That's one length I'm not willing to go to either. I'm done with WKC.

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Highlander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:35:29 PM

Unfortunately, the DLC is region locked, like the servers are. Japan is separate to the NA/EU server(s). Like Underdog says, I'd have to learn written Japanese to do that, and replay the game all the way to GR 30 which takes a minimum of about 500 hours. I've already given the game more than enough time, I won't do that.

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Killa Tequilla
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 10:20:25 PM
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All they have to do is say, "PS4 is on the way!" and im sold. But two big selling points for me are backwards compatability (PS3) and keeping my digital downloads from PSN. Anything else is just a plus.

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homura
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 10:59:55 PM
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METAL GEAR SOLID 5 or 6 BUNDLE.

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Lemon_Saint
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 11:20:56 PM
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I've been wondering about this myself. Sony has, with their last three consoles, ushered in new eras of physical media that caught on with the masses. (PS3=blu ray, PS2=DVD, PS1=CD format). Now I realize the CD format was being utilized by other consoles at the time, (I had most of 'em), but none of them were the insurmountable success that the PSOne was.

The games will come, (guaranteed), but what media format will Sony unleash this time around that will shock the hell out of everyone?

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homura
Sunday, September 16, 2012 @ 11:40:26 PM

4K resolution games might be distribute in a form of external usb drive. Time Scapes is a 4k movie, The price is $299 in a form of external USB drive.

Just found out that there is an ongoing development for a 1TB blu ray disc. Blu ray might still be the media of PS4.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:55:31 AM

A 1TB bluray disc seems excesive.

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Highlander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 1:29:10 AM

BluRay already has a higher revision with 33GB per layer and up to 4 layers on a single disc. The standard permits for more layers still. On top of that, no 4K displays means no 4K resolution content. Which means 1080p content, which fits nicely on BluRay.

PS4 will use the higher capacity BluRay which is backwards compatible with current BluRay.

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homura
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:56:56 AM

killa tequilla,

nope, when Panasonic is already has an 8K prototype plasma TV. Check it out, it's crazy.

http://www.bornrich.com/panasonics-145-inch-8k-resolution-plasma-tv-debuts.html

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:31:06 PM

Holy!

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Lemon_Saint
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 12:41:24 AM

I was hoping you guys would toss around some more outlandish ideas, (like the holographic imaging that is currently being developed).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89KxxpmMhi4

This is obviously fake, but how cool would this be?

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AcHiLLiA
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:19:27 AM
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it better have fully backwards compatibility, that's all I'm saying for now.

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Phoenix
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 1:01:12 AM

I couldnt agree more, if PS4 doesnt have BC, I'm not touching it, I'm sick of companies being too lazy to put it in. If I did get a PS4, I'd have a PS2, PS3, and a PS4 hooked up to be able to play my games, serisouly? gtfo with that, and to top that off I need a Vita and a PSP to play my portable devices, since the vita doesnt have true BC either... thanks sony, doing a bloody great job.

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daus26
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:05:25 PM

That's why I hope the next PlayStation will not abandon the cell processor, or else they're going to have to put up a really expensive emulation chip that is supposedly suppose to emulate the cell if it goes the X86 route.

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Rogueagent01
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 1:16:45 AM
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" what do you think is the most critical element for the new machine?"

Getting it to the shelf, I'll take care of the rest.

There is no one thing I need, there are many little things that I seriously want, but regardless it will be sitting next to my TV day 1.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:15:12 AM

Wow - I wrote a comment almost exactly like yours.
Great minds think alike? ;)

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Rogueagent01
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 8:19:22 PM

I've noticed with a lot of your posts that we have very similar tastes and ideas, so not to sound like I have an ego or anything, but yes :)

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Highlander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 1:27:06 AM
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PS4 must play everything PS3 does, out of the box.

Seriously, I have a lot invested in PS3 games including PS Plus content that is PS3 bound. If that doesn't work on PS4, they'll have to make a crap-ton of new compelling games to drag me away.

As for the issue of BC, I think that is becoming more, not less important, and I would argue that Sony agrees. Sony started releasing PS2 classics to PSN as well as numerous collections of remastered games. You don't do that if there is no demand for those PS2 games involved. BC is still an issue, it's just that Sony had to compromise on it's delivery. PS4 should not make that mistake. That's why it should be Cell based still, but with 2-4 times as much computing power. With that oomph, it would be possible to emulate the PS2 for the majority of games, and provide PS3 compatibility too.

TO go back to the PS Plus element of what I am talking about, there is hundreds and hundreds of dollars of content that individual gamers have paid for on Home and on PSN/PS Plus, all of that is PSN based, but runs on PS3. That content must continue to be available on PS4 once it launches, which means PS4 needs to be able to be PS3 compatible. If it is not, how does Sony mollify all the PSN users and PS Plus subscribers that they will be screwing over?

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daus26
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:24:12 PM

The problem is that Sony might be planning to simply offer us PS3 games over the PSN to buy AGAIN, rather than BC. I'm going to be very upset, as well as many, if not all, my friends if that's the case. I can only imagine how upset the rest of the world will be.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:13:46 AM
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My list of hopes and wishes for the PS4 is very long. But no single entry on that list is a deal-breaker for me. For me *not* to get a PS4 requires Sony to do something so insanely stupid that it's unthinkable.

I'll get me a PS4 no matter what, extremely likely right after launch.


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Dancemachine55
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:26:11 AM
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1. Backwards Compatability

I wanna know that I can fully replace my PS3 with a machine that will act as a PS3 games and digital content player, plus be ready for current gen software. This is THE most important feature to me personally.

2. Costs under $700 AUD ($399 USD)

Anything over this amount and I'll be waiting the standard 1-2 years.

3. Comes out before or at the same time as the next Xbox.

Many friends of mine got 360's cos they were $300 cheaper at the time, came out a year before the PS3 AND had more games AND a better online service. By coming out before the next Xbox, PS4 will have more games and a better launch sales stat.

4. Fully loaded with social online services for free as part of PSN.

Party chat, group chat, video chat, group video chat, multi-tasking, drop-in/drop-out gameplay online and local multiplayer... THAT will get my friends interested in Playstation again.

5. More AAA games

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Lawless SXE
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:36:31 AM

I'm not sure about your pricing there. As it is, the PS3 is near parity with US pricing and unless Sony want a huge backlash, they will not offer such a huge discrepancy. I'd expect maybe a $100 difference at most. WiiU is $50 difference for basic and $80 for Premium models, so that's not really promising...

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Gordo
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:51:13 AM
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Watching the "the Vita is dead" threads for thr last six months I am worried about the noise that wraps around any hardware release nowadays.

The Vita is brilliant, was reasonably priced, had an extensive launch library and took things in a positive direction.

The whining and whinging... The horror. The sense of entitlement from this generation.

Ok Sony could have had the PSP and PSOne digital title downloadable from day one but there was plenty to choose from.

I fear the same for the PS4. Too expensive, not enough backwards compatibility, peripherals too expensive, not enough games etc.

So I think Sony is damned if they do and damned if they don't. They will get flak regardless of what they do!

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:24:36 AM

Sorry, but I am so tired of complaints that we, the gamers, don't bite and swallow *anything* thrown our way. Tired of being accused for not "supporting the industry" enough or not be pleased with what we are served.

Vita is the wrong product at the wrong time. Period. Sony miscalculated and *thought* a dedicated gaming handheld from them would gain interest in the market and the third party developers. It has not.

And that is because nearly every potential buyer are too busy with their mobiles and pads to notice this thing from Sony with games costing 40 times as much and a selection of titles being 1/1000th of what they got available on their device.

The PS4 is an *entirely* different story - in fact it's almost the exact opposite. There is a high enough demand for an upgrade now. We *want* a better machine. We want to catch up with the PC gamers. We don't want to lag behind in the race against the Xbox.
There never was a demand for a new PSP. Not really.

So no, it will *not* be a repetition of the Vita story cause this time around they launch a product there is a demand for.

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fatelementality
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:48:44 AM
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I believe that if the PS wants to truly expand it's roots as a gaming machine, then it needs to shoot for what the loyalists truly want, gaming. How about reducing lag and load times for games? That's always a big issue to me as a gamer. Draw distance helps as well, especially on sandbox and racing games. How about improve the graphics a little and evaporate all of the problems that have plagued gamers since, well, the very beginning. I do miss being able to pop a cartridge in any of the first 3 Nintendo systems and it was time to game instead of time to go make a sandwich and wait for everything to res.

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ProfPlayStation
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:49:40 AM
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Ban Online Pass content restrictions and online-related DRM of any kind. That will get me 80% of the way to the cash register.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:41:17 AM
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Can't say that I'll be getting one day one, regardless of what Sony offers. To push me closer to a launch window purchase, however, it will need backwards compatibility, an impressive (or at least not anaemic) list of launch games and... well, not a whole lot more. The specs will matter as well. The bigger the jump from the PS3, the better off it'll be. I'm sort of wondering how we'll gauge it though, considering the PS4 will be using x86 architecture rather than the more bizarre offerings that Sony have gone for in the past.

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Highlander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 2:41:08 PM

If it's x86 based, why bother? Just build a big x86 PC gaming rig of your own and have at it. An x86 Playstation is doomed from the get-go. The one thing that would make me leave PlayStation as a brand would be an x86 based PS4. At that point, I go but an extra slimline PS2, a super slim PS3, make a PC gaming rig and buy a WiiU.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:29:00 PM

What makes me say that is that I was looking through Sony's job listings while bored with nothing to do the other day. Their ICE Team is looking for programmers with previous experience with x86 hardware. Could be nothing, but with developers still struggling with the Cell and calling for Sony to adopt more standard hardware, and with that already sort of begun with the Vita, I propose that it could be a hint for their direction in the next generation.

I don't think I'd like it. It's just unexciting, but it's a possibility.

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:29:14 PM

Why bother?

- Because the hardware will be heavily subsidized, meaning you get a better deal than if you rigged a PC.

- Because you'll get software tuned for your exact hardware setup.

- Because there's still the exclusives to be missed out on.

- Because it will be just as easy to set up in your livingroom as the PS3, and will have that same slick, good looking casing.

- Because it's your interface to PSN and access to Home, your trophy collection, PSN deals, Playstation classics, and Plus membership deals.

- Because it will be an excellent multimedia control center.

- Because it will still be - yes - a PLAYSTATION.


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Highlander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:06:13 PM

um...I replied to this topic already, but my reply has disappeared...not sure why. Sorry Beam, you'll have to imagine my reply, though I will repeat this bit...

Sony making an x86 PlayStation would be like Toyota buying un-branded Buick Lucernes from GM and then slapping Lexus badges on them and claiming they are the new Lexus.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 6:11:13 AM

Yeah I experienced a comment getting reverted to an earlier save - it was probably a consequence of the overlapping of the servers.

I'll not embark on an emotional discussion about the x86 architecture with you. But you yourself say "just buy a PC instead", and against such an argument my points were raised. There *are* reasons why you still would want a PS over a PC.


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Highlander
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 12:19:36 PM

I don't agree. An x86 PS4 is nothing more than a proprietary PC. Those days are gone. Criticism of the x86 and PC architectures aside (and boy do they deserve them); the x86 architecture is a terrible one for gaming. The only reason gaming on PCs has flourished in the past is the hefty GPUs that are thrown at the problem.

However the point remains that no matter what Sony puts in an x86 based PS4, it will be obsolete in the x86 world within 12 months.

Aside from that, there is the emotional aspect of not putting that piece of crap processor in a PlayStation. PlayStations are high performance devices, not general purpose work horses. I can't imagine a PlayStation based on such a mundane and frankly horrible architecture, it's such a departure from the past and a slap in the face of every engineer that put their hearts into PS1, PS2 and PS3.

I know you'll disagree, I know you love you some PC and really are not a console gamer at heart - honestly you don't come across as a console gamer, you really do sound like a PC gamer trying to be something else.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 1:26:01 PM

I bought a console because of the simplicity, not because of the architecture. No system is better than the software that runs on it, and I don't really care what's inside as long as it *works*.

Quite frankly I'm pretty certain that's the case for most console owners. Just wait and see if now the next PS indeed is based on a X86 architecture and all the multiplats are running smooth as silk from day one. See then how many PS4 owners will complain about the names on the chipsets inside their consoles.


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___________
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:47:05 AM
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i just want the usual, the most powerful system possible!
if $ony sticks to that and not cheapen out like they have in other areas ill be getting it.
obviously the cheaper it is, the more and better games it has, the better.
but as long as its the usual alien technology ill be there waiting.
cant say the same for the opposite though, if it has the best games and heaps of them, but is only a slight upgrade from current gen than i wont be getting it.

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Dante399
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 7:25:32 AM
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1- I want to see a big leap in graphics.
2- I hate loading screens so I don't want to come across them again.
3- Not too expensive price tag.
4- The games I want to play;like Monster Hunter and new first and second party games that rule over other consoles' games.

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squibbfire
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 8:29:39 AM
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PRICE
PRICE
PRICE
PRICE
PRICE...

Why am i the only one that thinks this is an issue???
The ps3 was and still is WAAYYYY too expensive!

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Beamboom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:06:06 PM

If price is your only concern there is a new gaming console coming next year, Ouya at only $99, that should be perfect for you.

... If price is your *only* priority. that is. ;)

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slugga_status
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 8:38:36 AM
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The PS4 doesn't have to do anything to sell me on it..I have complete faith in Sony as they have not failed me since the original PS. I just need a release date and price..

One thing I hope it features is b/c that's about it..and ability to keep Plus content..but those aren't deal breakers at all..

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duomaxwell007
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 9:22:47 AM
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as long a sit doesnt cost more than 300 (which is unlikely considering Wii U is 350 and i know the xbox and ps4 will be more powerful than wii u) then Im all for it

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gumbi
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 9:28:03 AM
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I have a history of saying I wont buy a launch console again... then doing it anyway, so we'll see.

Price will be a bigger factor for me than it has been in the past. I can't drop $700+ on a new console like I did with my PS3. PS4 needs to launch under $500. $399 would be ideal (though if we want serious new hardware, I kind of expect a $499 tag)

Unless the new super slim PS3 is the same size as my Slim PS2, the PS4 damn well better be 100% PS3/PSN compatible. I have a HUGE backlog of PS3 games, if PS4 can't play them then there's really no point in me getting one until later.

Stick to blu-ray. We still need physical media, BD is more than capable, and nobody wants a new format.

PS4 will need a BIG hard drive. Seriously. BIG. It either needs to come with one, or continue the tradition of letting us swap it out. 1TB 2.5" drives are pretty accessible nowadays. In fact, I'd rather a discounted drive-less PS3 option that I can put my own drive in. That would be better than wasting money on another 250gb drive to add to the pile.

Lastly. I know this won't happen, but it'd be nice for PS4 to actually be a competent media center. I love my PS3, and it really has some great media features... but I gave up using it as a media center a long time ago and built a cheap HTPC to put in my entertainment unit. No more headaches.

Bah... who am I kidding? I'll probably still buy the damned thing at launch, regardless.

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Amnesiac
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 9:53:29 AM
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Its gotta make toast and scrambled eggs in morning.

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ethird1
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 3:08:38 PM
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Im not going to buy the ps4 until 2 years into it's life cycle.

I dont want to have to RELOAD all the ps1 games, ps2 games, and ps 3 games I have to it.

I also dont want to have the problems that so many of the first systems that come out have.

But the most important part is I am not paying 400 dollars + for a gaming system when I have to pay 400 bucks a year for baseball bats, 400 bucks a year for football and baseball cleats, family vacations, and bills in a bad economy.

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CaptRon
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:08:41 PM
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Well if they go ATI like rumored I'll never get a ps4. I'll just upgrade my PC.

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daus26
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:19:58 PM
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Just for the sake of casual consumers, I want Sony to release it at two prices. One at $499, and the other at $399. $599 just seems to be overkill for a gaming console even though its value would probably be worth it. I don't care how unsuccessful Sony's launch was, but there's plenty of justified reasons why $599 is a great price for the PS3 back then. Anything cheaper than $399 is just suspiciously cheap, considering Wii U is able to do it at $349.

We're talking about an Elite entertainment console that's suppose to last for years. If tablets (that gets outdated within two years before another model comes out) can cost $499, then the PS4 should have the right to do so. If you're expecting Sony to release a beast of a console for only $399 or less for its premium package, you're just being cheap, I'm sorry.

Other than that, backward compatibility is a must. Not only will it be beneficial for most consumers, if Sony doesn't have very many PS4 games at the start, we can just stick to playing PS3 games.

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shadowpal2
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 4:39:45 PM
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What started moving PS3's like crazy? ...METAL GEAR SOLID 4 - END OF STORY. After that the games that followed only pushed and keep on pushing the PS3.

THEY NEED THAT ONE "MUST BUY" game that will automatically sell the console in an instant. And dare I say it - it's gonna have to be either an exclusive Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts, or...Naughty Dog game - I'll still keep hoping for Jak & Daxter reboot haha.

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BattleFox21
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 5:09:10 PM
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For me the $600 price tag of PS3 was costly but, I would have done it had I had the money. They should price this one between $400-$500, Bring 1st & 3rd party support more than they ever have to start off for any console because they need to prove they learned something from the launch of the PS3 to others (not me). It really hurt them in this area; the continuation of titles for the PS3. More memory for PS4 they had so much functionality in the PS3 but, when their competitors finally got on par with what Sony was doing there where still somethings others wanted & couldn't achieve it so, it gave enough ground to it's competitors too stand side by side with Sony. A much better web browser. Apps, this is the generation we are in and it is important to keep up with trends as Sony has found out with the PS3 and even the PS2 (online). Bigger Hard Drive space 500GB-1TB to start. If we are or will be going digital, this is a must. Cross platform play would cement the PS4 if u ask me, but it is optional. Also, Sony needs to come along side at the very least of the Xbox 720. No more giving way to your competitors, This is what almost sunk them last gen. Retain the Keyboard option and this time push it. It is optional yes, but they didn't even give us the option even having the PS3 ready for it. This will help port PC gamers who have been wanting to join the community (namely my PC friends). Last but, not least, bring what they have learned from the vita and PS3 into this next generation & I think they have a winner. The PS3 Generation could have been commanded By the PS3 even with the Wii, but there was just way too many mistakes on their part. I think these things are important &/or essential if Sony wants to succeed next generation.

Sony please lead us this next generation like we know you can. The potential is there...!

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Leafs25
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 6:33:37 PM
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Backwards compatibility would be huge for me.

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Qubex
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 6:49:51 PM
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It should be very very powerful indeed... and it should also be backward compatible...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Qubex
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 6:50:08 PM
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It should be very very powerful indeed... and it also be backward compatible...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 9:25:19 PM
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Backward compatible (not an issue for me but for others), new games(IP) and definitely more RPG/JRPG games. Price also needs to be near a sweet spot, I know price is and can be an issue for some. If I have to save for one I will, but it can be a turn off for people.



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Mogreen
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 11:59:36 PM
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At least 20 "GOOD" games.

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Fat
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 2:56:36 PM
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500 Gig and backward compatibility!

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LowKey
Thursday, September 20, 2012 @ 7:53:19 AM
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A $50 price tag lol

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