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Do You Question The "Holy Sh**" Factor Of Next-Gen Consoles?

It's always exciting when a new round of consoles arrives.

There's always that first moment of turning on the TV after everything is hooked up; you're tense with anticipation and you're just waiting for your jaw to drop. It was a little more prominent in the old days, 'cuz without the Internet, you really had no idea what to expect. Well, there may have been a few fuzzy commercials but besides that, launch day was very much a big surprise.

And it's not that we haven't been wowed by new machines during the Internet age. I'm just wondering if the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One have that huge "wow" factor cache, you know? We're talking about two game consoles comprised of relatively common off-the-shelf PC components, and we're not seeing anything all that innovative from the launch lineups, either. There are some promising new titles, certainly, and more power and capability is always good. Still, I can't help but think that this time around, there may be a little less of that "wow" factor.

I'm expecting to be satisfied and maybe even impressed, but I'm not expecting to be on the floor, eyes wide, jaw slack, staring at the new awesome virtual entertainment before me. It's not that I'm too old for such a reaction; it's just that the technical advancements may not be quite as awe-inspiring as we've seen in the past. I mean, going from the Atari to the NES, the 2D machines to the N64 and PlayStation, even the PlayStation to the PS2; those were enough to knock your socks off. This time, though, I have a feeling my socks will be staying on.

Tags: next gen consoles, next generation, ps4, playstation 4, xbox one

10/24/2013 10:19:59 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (32 posts)

Draguss
Thursday, October 24, 2013 @ 10:40:30 PM
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The progress feels much steadier than in previous gen jumps. Like the only real reason the new gen is coming is because we finally reached the limit of this gen. Maybe the next "WOW!" moment won't be until the gen when virtual reality is announced and all our pants simultaneously explode.

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matt99
Thursday, October 24, 2013 @ 10:53:31 PM
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Well I think graphically this new generation won't be as jaw dropping simply because last generation was also the jump to HD which added to the wow factor.

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Delsin Rowe
Thursday, October 24, 2013 @ 10:55:09 PM
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I think you said it yourself, in this day and age of the internet we have seen so much we know what to expect with these new systems. There's not much mystery left.

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PC_Max
Thursday, October 24, 2013 @ 11:00:13 PM
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It might come down to age here... and thats not a bad thing. I have been through many generations or stages of gaming. As I am sure others have as well. BUT and this is a BUT... I think the WOW will come from the first time game console buyer.

If this is going to be their first console purchase, it might generate a whole lot of excitement for them and that may rub off on to others if we actually get to see it in our lives. Possibly relive what it was like for us... vets. Yep I remember Pong and how excited I was then. Looking back on it now... geeez, what was I excited about. lol. Then it was the Atari.lol.

Keep playing!

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Temjin001
Thursday, October 24, 2013 @ 11:00:16 PM
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yah, i don't think it feels as large a leap. im reading stuff like CoD Ghosts and BF4 are running at only 720p. Weak sauce.

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Crabba
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 3:46:38 AM

That really is terrible UGH..

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, October 24, 2013 @ 11:14:21 PM
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I agree but I'm less optimistic about being all that impressed, so far it seems things won't change much at all (even visually) for a while.

I'll need to see some major physics and environmental detail upgrades to actually be impressed. Multiplats will have to be presenting better than Naughty Dog exclusives for it to matter.

But that doesn't mean I'm not still excited to see what can change over the course of the generation. I think people are off base who think that without a lot of hidden power there won't be the same progression. These days it's all about how the programming is done, not as much the kind of power available.

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Temjin001
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 12:55:16 AM

most of what the next-gen is delivering is about on par with a 5-6 year console cycle. that being the RAM and GPU upgrades are near where they'd need to be. It's the CPU side of things that doesn't quite live up to a standard console upgrade. Yes, it's at least a few times better then what we have already, but not the 8x increase we should expect.

EDIT: So basically, don't expect a next-gen sized leap in physics and ai like you're hoping.

Last edited by Temjin001 on 10/25/2013 12:56:50 AM

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Beamboom
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 8:05:53 AM

There's plenty more room for physics and AI now, Temjin. In general, we should indeed see a radical improvement on all stuff related to memory and CPU.

I think it's more accurate to say "don't expect a giant leap in the pure graphics" department (as in resolution, framerate and polygons). It will be more flash'n'bang, but if I were to tweak *one* thing on the next consoles, it would have been the gpus.


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Temjin001
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 10:34:46 AM

there'll be improvements of several times but computationally the leap from the Cell to the Jaguar CPU just isn't 8-10x greater. No, it's like 3x, maybe 4x.
Yes, I know, the compute units. Thing is there, you draw from the compute units you draw away from the graphics.

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monkeypunch
Monday, October 28, 2013 @ 12:17:38 AM

I think it will be but it won't look like it at first glance.

For example, adding subtle things like shadows and reflections it may look like graphics of last gen until you start playing the game and the details accurately mimic real life physics.

The first few times I played COD last year I was surprised and caught off guard a few times by some of the things I hadn't seen in games before.

If they can do that and increase the resolution and keep the framerate solid it could make a huge but subtle difference. That and things like the oculus rift and better screens. :)

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Shams
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 1:07:36 AM
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In my humble an experience (going back all the way back to atari 2600 days), console releases have always been hyped, and have always fallen short of the hype. This time, next gen, isn't so hyped (so, maybe, for the first time, I'll be surprised, and in a good way). But, over the years, I've learned to be patient. See, technology always get outdated, but quality masterpieces remain timeless and classic. So, that's what I wait for, and that's why I never really get disappointed.

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CrusaderForever
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 2:21:26 AM
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Yeah the wow factor won't be as big as prior gens. I do believe this next gen will perfect what the last gen started. However take a look at KZSF and Order 1886 and these two gems may change your mind and offer a tremendous wow factor.

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Kiryu
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 2:22:47 AM
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I really had hoped i hadn't seen those The Order 1886 Screens.They have a wow factor,hope they've not spoiled the whole game look.

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Clamedeus
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 11:43:33 AM

Indeed, those screens are delicious. I hope they pull everything off that they intend to do, the game is looking really good!

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Lawless SXE
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 5:00:25 AM
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I'm not questioning it... I'm just not really feeling it. Aside from EVERYTHING becoming open-world, I'm not seeing all that much that I didn't see in the past six years, aside from prettier graphics and they don't impress me if the gameplay doesn't back it up.

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Beamboom
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 6:41:33 AM
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I think my next "oh shit" moment will be related to the Oculus Rift (& clones) type technology. Sony has already confirmed they are working on their version for the PS4.

To be able to actually *enter* the 3D worlds? Now that reeks like one giant "oh shit" moment to me.


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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 11:19:29 AM

I want to enter Fallout

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Tim Speed24
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 6:02:49 PM

Why?? Do you need a nap?

Kidding ;)

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Beamboom
Sunday, October 27, 2013 @ 6:12:50 PM

Fallout is the game I always think of in these reagrds too :)

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___________
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 7:21:23 AM
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who dosent?
im still yet to see anything that makes me go holy sh*t i SO need a next gen console yet.
they just lack the wow factor new systems should have.
part of thats because so many of the announced titles are your typical titles, ie yawn been there done that a gazillion times already!
and the few that actually look unique and interesting, the order perfect example, we know so little about!
suppose to be out in a years time and gameinformer had it as the cover issue this month and that still revealed next to jack sh*t!
if the games so far in development and due out in a year, then why so super restrictive and secretive?
whats $ony hiding?
perfect chance for them to blow the doors off and make people say WOW, and there acting mom.
sigh.

other reason being, well, ever since epic and $E decided to show off their next gen engines, they were getting really impatient waiting on $ony and M$, and now that the systems are out in the light of day, and said demos are running on them, well at least UE4, it just looks no where near as good as what it did originally!
the UE4 demo shown off at the playstation meeting looked no where near as good as what it did when epic first revealed it, hell even when i attended pax in july and saw the same demo on the oculus rift, it looked no where near as good as what it did originally.
why such a cut back in quality ever since consoles have been announced?
hell even the recent infiltrator demo that was revealed a few days ago still looks no where near as good as what the original footage did.
why the sudden cut back?
developers have been scrambling saying oh sh*t the systems are not what we were expecting...........?

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Gabriel013
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 8:06:10 AM
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My reaction to both consoles when I saw the gameplay videos were "Well I guess they look ok" nothing more than that. They could have labelled it PS3.5 and XB360.5 and I wouldn't have been more or less excited.

Previously the new generations gave me something to really wow me and get me excited over and above what I already had. Right now, as said before, the current gen is perfectly fine for me.

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bldudas1
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 8:24:09 AM
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I don't see any difference in the new consoles compared to the current consoles from what I've seen.

Going from the Sega Genesis to the Nintendo 64 and from the Nintendo 64 to the Sega Dreamcast wowed me. Going from the Dreamcast to the PS3 wowed me. But this time, meh, nothing.

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Vivi_Gamer
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 10:15:49 AM
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I just cannot get excited for next gen yet, as soon as MGS5 is released I am buying a PS4 as I am ever so excited for that game, but I was content with that being a PS3 release before they announced it for next gen too.

I know I will eventually get games that will entice me but for now there is nothing, especially as Watch Dogs has been delayed. That was the only unique experience next gen was going to offer at launch, no doubt it will be released before MGS5 though so I will probably buy it soon after.

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Temjin001
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 11:13:46 AM
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anyone else think that games like CoD, Assassin's Creed preempting the next-gen versions won't bode well by way of critics?
I say this because the core of the game will be made manifest with the early current-release. Then when it finally hits the 'next-gen' people will just observe it's improvements as cosmetic and will only incrementally score it higher. When something is felt fresh on the next-gen it could feel greater, even with cross gen development.
It's a weird scenario and I don't think it'll help. I believe it may dampen praise.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 11:21:09 AM

I'm hoping that's the case, these devs and others need a push to start making things better. If they think they can make the same games next gen and continue to pull down 9s then somethings wrong.

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Temjin001
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 11:41:31 AM

yah, perhaps it's not such a bad thing.
Of course Ubi and Activision are hoping people transition without argument. They employ massive teams for these very projects. To have one of these franchises sink is to report less profits for a few years and institute massive layoffs while they try to figure out something new and engaging for people to play.
It's like creative autonomy vs corporate survival. One brings us expanded horizons, the other brings us safe cash-ins that feed idiot appetites.

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Axe99
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 5:43:45 PM
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I think what we're seeing (as we should) is the diminishing apparent marginal returns to processing power, so on a perceptual level there is relatively less 'wow' this jump. That said, there is still a clear and substantial jump, and for a gaming enthusiasts like m'self, that's still exciting (I'm most excited about things like deeper world simulation and more advanced AI). However, I suspect casual gamers may not notice the gap as much (as the visual gap isn't as big as previous jumps, and they're not the type to worry about world sim and AI).

I think it'll be fine though - in a year's time, there'll be big games that are only next-gen (because next gen is actually about a lot more than just visuals, even though a lot of people suggest otherwise) and when you can only play those games on a PS4 and XB1, and a broader range of gamers will jump on board.

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amonte64
Friday, October 25, 2013 @ 7:17:46 PM
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I've said it once and I'll say it again: There is no need for next gen, at least not $400-$500 machines. What this gen currently does covers everything in great fashion. Maybe release updated consoles with more RAM to get more features and things like that.

You know what you're paying $400-$500 for? prettier graphics, more enemies on screen, cross voice chat and gimmicky voice control. Big whoop.

This whole following the propaganda of we want or "need" super high end specs is the reason why studios have closed and will probably close, and why almost only the biggest corps and indies left.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Saturday, October 26, 2013 @ 2:55:45 AM
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yeah i think as times have changed the overall wow factor has dropped off a bit but i still think it'll be pritty special nun the less.

happy gaming =)

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TeHPoPPer
Sunday, October 27, 2013 @ 7:15:43 PM
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To me, the holy sh*t factor of this gen should have been every game running at 1080p and 60fps.

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Lunar_Miyuki
Monday, October 28, 2013 @ 8:48:04 AM
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@Temijin you said no AI jumps but truth be told here most developers are to damn lazy to make decent AI the only intelligent AI ive came across is Team Ninja
DOA and Ninja Gaiden

now honestly their is No real Wow factor in PS4 for those who seen the jumps between nintendo and super nintendo or the jumps between super nintendo and PS1 or the jumps between ps1 and PS2
id love to say the jumps between PS2 and PS3/360 but PS2 truly has the better games

yes PS3/360 has better graphics but the games don't = out

and as far as PS4 goes is unless you Like MMOS Aka Planetside 2 or Deep Down then theirs no real Wow factor

just for peoples info Planetside 2 would crash the PS3

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