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Sony: Wii U Doesn't "Necessarily" Signify A New Generation

The Wii U launches soon and to some, that means the next generation of gaming consoles has begun.

But in speaking to French site Lemonde (as cited by VG24/7), Sony worldwide studios president Shuhei Yoshida says simply, "not quite."

When asked if he thought the release of Nintendo's new system signifies the start of the next generation, Yoshida replied:

"Not necessarily. Since the launch of the Playstation 3, six years ago, the graphics have evolved, resulting in titles like adventure game Uncharted 3 and Beyond by Quantic Dream.

The life of consoles is also extended by services online,” Yoshida added, “which continue to make a new offer cloud and new social functions. It is therefore too early to talk about the end of this generation of consoles."

Yoshida was also asked about the Vita, and he admitted that the new portable device - which has sold only 3 million units worldwide - is performing below expectations. He goes on to talk about the difficulty of facing down the mobile gaming market, which is obviously popular right now. As for the PS4, maybe we'll hear about that before or at E3 2013...and maybe that will qualify as "next-gen."

Tags: sony, wii u, next gen, next generation, gaming industry, vita, playstation vita

11/5/2012 1:25:07 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (48 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 1:40:04 PM
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I'd say Wii U is just catching up to this generation. But Sony will have to watch their backs, MS could spring that new system as early as 2013 and you don't want to be a year behind again.

3 million units for Vita? Holy crap that's horrible.

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Huey
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 1:48:32 PM

I agree about Nintendo. I considered buyin a U, but am not sure about having to divide my attention between the Gamepad and the TV.

I am sure Sony is going to hold their cards pretty close to their chest. When they do release the new console, I believe the launch game(s) are going to have to be showcase quality. You know MS is going to come out swinging.

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Helghast
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 2:07:09 PM

@Huey

I actually disagree. I think MS is expecting Sony to release another console that is slow, horrible at multitasking and sub-par social and multimedia features. I think Sony is going to come out swinging. Judging by what the Vita offers I think the PS4 is going to have some really neat social feature that will give MS a run for their money. I also think the PS4 will have a great exclusive line up that will be out shortly after launch. MS is going to think they can remain stingy on games and focus on multimedia like they currently do and Sony is going to come out of the gate with a right hook straight to MS's face with a multimedia beast.
But this is Sony and you can count on games being the main focus, and of course am more powerful machine.


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Highlander
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 2:17:56 PM

Speaking of Vita...

Sony Store has PS Vita, 3G version, with 8GB memory card and free PSN game for $269.99 - free shipping...

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666424866

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Beamboom
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 2:33:57 PM

I like and share your optimism Helghast! I think they got a plan, I think they've learnt from earlier mistakes, Sony got something cookin' now, and we are going to like it.

Let's stick to optimism until eventually proven wrong. :)

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:44:55 PM

What was it... like 2 weeks ago(?) That same Vita bundle was $178 at target for a week, but sold out by tuesday :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:45:22 PM

too much

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Dreno
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 9:47:23 PM

Firstly, its been awhile everyone, how's y'all doin? Bikersaint, I read a post from last night I think, and to you sir, happy belated birthday.

Now, on topic :
World, I'm gonna agree with you that the wii-u is only catching nintendo up to the current gen. Everything I've read about it says that it pretty much measures up to the current consoles all the aspects. But I may have mis-reas or been ill informed.

I don't think the wii-u will be the start of the next gen, but I do believe it will give sony and microsoft a good measure on what to gauge the competition from nintendo with.

Hopefully sony ( and I may or may not be alone in thinking this ) waits until ms releases the new xbox, just so they can see what microsoft has to offer, and build on top if it for a gran unvailing of the ps4.

Also, I think on the next gen, game devs and companies need to do something about the lack of AAA rpgs. I'm talking like bring back the style that made the genre so big back in the day. I want either full on hd remakes, or new ips with old school ways.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 @ 1:07:04 AM

Question. A 3G Vita plus 8GB memory and a free game is too much at $269.99 with free shipping?

Seriously? You all whined about the price of the memory cards, and yet this is a 3G system selling $30 below list with a free 8GB card included. The memory card is free and the system is discounted. Even if the 8GB card was only priced at $20 (approximately the cost of a MemoryStick Pro Duo of the same size), that brings the cost of the Vita plus game down to $250 which is the list price of the Wifi model. Sounds like a $50 price reduction to me. That would be a 20% discount on the original price. So for all those calling for a price reduction, does this not qualify? Remember this is directly from Sony. I don't know but you've all said that they need a $50 price reduction - there it is. You've all complained about the cost of the memory cards, well, $20 for 8GB would put this solidly in the same cost bracket as a SandisK Memory Stick Pro Duo from Amazon.

I also note that Amazon has the official 8GB Vita memory card listed at approximately $22 although the MSRP is still $29.99.

No offense to anyone, but this amounts to exactly the price reduction that you've all been pining for. Yet here it is, and it's still not enough for you. Seems like you simply want something for nothing.

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 @ 10:18:43 AM

Relax. To me that's not a bad deal, but I would prefer just the wifi version, I assume their's a cheaper bundle too, but the PS3 satisfies me enough. Their is just that thing with portable gaming systems when your not a little kid anymore it kind of gets boring other than free time like traveling. (my opinion)

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BikerSaint
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 1:48:02 PM
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The only thing I see new about the Wii-U is the new controller, but the Vita does the same & has already been out for over 6 months.

And someone needs to tell Ninty that HD consoles are so 2006/2007 already too.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:23:50 PM

What games does the Vita do what the WiiU controller does? I would like to try it.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:31:47 PM

Problem is Biker the Wii U gamepad will be 100% functional with the console on day one. Sony way over promised and under delivered in regards to PS3/Vita connectivity. It's severely lacking compared to the Wii U and event more lacking when you take into consideration what Sony promised.

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Temjin001
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:38:01 PM

Yeah, functionality doesn't mean much if the support isn't there to make it worthwhile. I'm sort of speaking in a general sense. I don't really know much of what or isn't being done well for Vita on the functional side myself.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:48:40 PM

Sony promised PS1 classic support at launch. It came way late. They promised remote play for PS3 titles. Now they offer excuses even when hackers have been able to prove its possible. They promised better remote play funcsrionalu in general. While better than the PSP it's still not where they said it would be. It still lags and the age quality is still underwhelming. Now having tested these functions with the Wii U personality, the Wii I has the uppers and when it comes to remote play at this point in time.

Nintendo will exploit their hardware. I have no doubt about that. Whether 3rd parties follow suit, that remains to be seen but given EA and Ubisofts enthusiasm I remain optimistic.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:51:30 PM

funcsrionalu* should be functionality. Auto spell fail.

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Bonampak
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 11:21:57 PM

"And someone needs to tell Ninty that HD consoles are so 2006/2007 already too."

Er... HD consoles won't go out of style any time soon. Unless you seriously think that 4K resolution will catch on fast. 4K is pretty useless in TV's with a screen smaller than 50in or 60in.

Either way, Nintendo isn't trying to sell the Wii U with HD as its main selling point. But its more like trying to sell it by way of the isometric gameplay it offers.

Nintendo is not a typical company that you can say "they're trying to sell things with graphics and power". We all know that's not the case with them. They're really into the whole disruption/blue ocean strategy of allowing players to experience games with what some may call gimmicks and yet others may call innovations. The Wii U is no different from that.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 @ 7:31:15 PM

I liked the first way of spelling it.

Its the name for the next Nintendo console..

The Nintendo Funcsrionalu =p

I like it

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Knightzane
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 1:48:30 PM
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I wonder what MS thinks of the wii u.

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BikerSaint
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 2:03:11 PM

Hey Knightzane,

Glad you asked that, because here's what M$ just said about the Xbox vs Wii-U, Playstation.....
(BTW, I'm calling BS on M$)

Xbox 360 the only console to "defy gravity" says Microsoft

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-11-05-xbox-360-the-only-console-to-defy-gravity-says-microsoft?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=us-daily

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wiiplay
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:24:13 PM

@BikerSaint - they need to inhale less helium, and come back down to the controller-inhabited Earth.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 1:49:35 PM
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Even though I have found the Wii to bring me more joy than the PS3 this year, there is no question that it feels like a last gen console. I played the Wii-U at Eurogamer and I have to say... I wasn't that impressed. The new controller was nothing more than a gimmick for the 'new' Mario game. All you did was create obstructions for the people who were actually playing the game on the original Wii-motes.

I'm not sold on it, though I only bought a Wii for the flood of RPG's it got this year in The Last Story, Pandora's Tower & Xenoblade. Before these 3 games I found the console laughable but if the Wii-U has more games like these, I may well be convinced. But that is more about the games themselves rather than all motion features though.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:26:29 PM

How would you rate those RPG's you mentioned? Always looking for Wii games that deserve to be played.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:59:53 PM

The Last Story is my game of the year 10/10 it may be short, but it is always exciting.


Pandoras Tower - I thought at first it was poorly presented at first, but when the core gameplay sets of looking after Elena and exploring the towers it becomes deeply rewarding. 8/10

I have yet to play Xenoblade as it is still expensive, but I definitely intend to.

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Bonampak
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 11:25:28 PM

Amazon was selling The Last Story for $8.00 dlls for a couple of hours just yesterday.

They may do that with Xenoblade... maybe.

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CrusaderForever
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 2:24:03 PM
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I am really interested in what Sony has up its sleeve! I cannot wait to see what they do for the PS4.

Nintendo is just catching up even if their WiiU is a little more robust than the PS3 and X360 it's still not a huge step forward. Not to mention the WiiU gamepad is single touch not multitouch like the Vita.

Remote play....you will pretty much have to be sitting in the same room if you want to play on the gamepad. They say it can fall out of sync with thicker walls. I haven't experienced any problems playing remote play games on the Vita and I am on a different floor entirely.

I will never buy a Nintendo system again. I however wish they would fail epically and have to go the route of Sega. I would love to see their first party games on the PS4/5!

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bigrailer19
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 3:19:09 PM

I don't want Nintendo to go away. They are great for the industry. Even though I sold my Wii a long time ago, the Mario games were blast. The New super Mario bros was awesome, and I'd really hate to see them go away.

I noticed you mentioned seeing Nintendos First party games on Sonys machine but that just would never happen.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 3:50:48 PM

Crusader is saying that if Ninty had to stop making hardware they could just go the route Sega did and put their software on other consoles. That's how we would eventually see Mario and the gang on a Sony system.

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bigrailer19
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:21:35 PM

I know and I meant to respond to that part too and apparently I didnt. I dont necessarily think that would happen either. But I suppose it's a good possibility.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:36:30 PM

"I will never buy a Nintendo system again. I however wish they would fail epically and have to go the route of Sega. I would love to see their first party games on the PS4/5!"

Lol, I always have to laugh when people spout this nonsense. So just because you don't like what they have to offer you want them to fail?

Competition breeds innovation. If it wasn't for competing companies Sony wouldn't be who they are today. Nintendo has done a lot for the industry and its pure fanboyism to ignore that.

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wiiplay
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:19:04 PM
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Yes, I'm a Nintendo fanboy, and have to own every single device that they make. (even the horrible ones... Ahem, looking at you, VirtualBoy!)
But, I can honestly say, that for once in my lifetime, I'm not buying the Wii U for the exclusive Nintendo games...

Nope, I'm buying the Wii U so I can play the games while on the toilet. :D
(God I love having two screens)

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wiiplay
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:21:30 PM

Seriously though, I can't wait for the Wii U to release. Plan to get a unit day 1, which is a first for me.

Although the whole 'playing in the bathroom' thing was intended to be a joke, I'm actually kinda serious. I mean, who wouldn't want to play the latest video games at console-level quality while on the can? :p

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sawao_yamanaka
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:35:36 PM

Like the vita? :p I wish that I had the cash for it. This time around I am unemployed so I can't spend the money on it :(. Hope you have fun on that system :).

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wiiplay
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:49:31 PM

@sawao_yamanaka - Yup, exactly like the Vita. In fact, that's what I currently use. (and as you can imagine, none of my friends wish to touch it. So, playing in the bathroom has its' benefits)

Still, the Vita is only capable of so much. It *could* produce PS3-like graphics, thanks to the lower screen resolution. But honestly, we're never going to get graphics like that on the Vita for quite some time. (if ever)

So, the Wii U is all that I've got, when it comes to HD console gaming on the can. As, it is a console.

Imagine playing a game like Battlefield 4 (or another FPS) at console graphics while performing number two. Now, imagine playing that game online.
The end result? The most epic of bragging rights. I can literally say "I kicked your butt while on the toilet". I mean, that's one fantastic bragging right, if you ask me. :D

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Jawknee
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 11:14:59 PM

"Nope, I'm buying the Wii U so I can play the games while on the toilet. :D
(God I love having two screens)"

I do too. I really like that the Wii U essentially turns your living room game console and TV into a powerful HD DS. I could see the potential for the Vita doing the same but in order for that to happen Sony needs to step up their game in the PS3/Vita functionality department.

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kraygen
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:27:20 PM
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Honestly think anyone considering wii u to be next gen are just kidding themselves. Wii u will barely even equate to the current generation let alone the next one.

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Bonampak
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 11:35:13 PM

The original Wii was a last gen console as well (PS2, Xbox, Gamecube). And it still managed to sell nearly 100 million units, despite said limitation.

The lesson there is that a good hook/gimmick can pay off. If the Wii U has a similar hook or gimmick, it won't matter that its barely better than current consoles. And if it also has a game or two that connects with mainstream audiences (think Wii Sports) then that would just seal the deal.

I'm not entirely sure that the Wii U has that same hook or fresh appeal as the Wii, though.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:40:18 PM
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How is 3 million below expectations? Ambition much?

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sawao_yamanaka
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 4:47:10 PM

They were trying to have 16 million For their fiscal year. 3ds total sales are at 21 million. Huge difference and that is the reason why they are disappointed. Not enough gamers are wanting the unit because of its price. Although as highlander posted up there, they do have their sales. People are just not interested or they are biased.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:34:16 PM

Hmmm... okay I see. I didn't know the scope of the situation. Vita is an awesome piece of tech, what the hell is going on, why do people not buy it?! Is it the "Sony hate"?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:49:00 PM

There just isn't much of a portable market surrounding hardcore gaming; it's something people want to do at home, that's why 3DS, Smartphone and tablet gaming has the portable market locked down.

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Raze22
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 8:00:43 PM

No, the gb and gba were considered core gaming for the handheld market and produce a bunch of solid titles.

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iwillbetheone
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 @ 8:11:42 AM

It's the price. The complete package with a 32GB card costs too much.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 6:26:16 PM
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I'm guessing Sony will release the PS4 in November 2013 in Japan and the US, then February 2014 in Europe and worldwide. Seems like the most plausible event.

That will either make it a simultaneous or slightly earlier launch than the next Xbox, unless MS rushes that one to market again and keeps breaking once again.

However, with dev kits that aren't even close to the final product and are mostly modified PC's or graphics cards, I'm also guessing the PS4 won't hit retail til well into 2014. E3 2013 will be the tease and demos, E3 2014 will be the full on blowout with games and services ready to go.

Depends on what MS is up to really. Last thing we need is Sony to make the PS4 a year late again and ridiculously expensive. So long as they keep blu-ray and focus costs on RAM, processor and graphics, the PS4 should hopefully be peachy and run Bethesda games with little problem.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 05, 2012 @ 10:58:57 PM
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I would agree. They're playing catch up to which I say about time. So looking forward to playing first party Nintendo games in HD. Well over do.

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___________
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 @ 2:53:09 AM
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ironic how the online services he quotes are pretty much the exact reason why we NEED next gen systems!
cloud gaming and such, $ony dident buy gaikai so they could sit on their laurels!
"online services" are exactly the reason why we NEED ps4, and NOW!

gotta love $ony and their sheer arrogance though!
they grossly underestimated how much of a stranglehold mobiles had on the portable market, they launched the vita, and now their struggling.
so you would think in future they would be more cautious around competition, but nope again they rear their ugly fat heads and grossly underestimate their competition yet again.
eh, as the saying goes slug them for a penny, slug them for a pound.
at least there consistent!

so, how many times does $onys attitude have to come back and bite them on the a$$ before they change it?

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Ninjaman
Friday, November 09, 2012 @ 8:29:08 AM
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Has anyone piece together the fact that the wii U's new controller idea could be in use on the ps3 and the Xbox within a matter of days? If Sony sat down and worke on the cross play functionality a little bit more they could have themselves a console that uses the vita like the wii U's game pad. And with microsofts new smart glass technology, they could integrate the use of any tablet on the market to act as the wii U game pad. That's what completely turns me off to the wii U, because if you look back at the wii, they were the only ones this generation with motion gaming. But the ps3 and Xbox are so much more powerful and adaptive that they came out with their own motion gaming without having to release a new system. We didn't even see clues that they were going to do this, and now Sony and Microsoft already have the software to compose their own versions. I can wait a year or two to spend half the price of a wii U to upgrade my ps3 into doing the same thing.

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Sage
Friday, November 09, 2012 @ 8:05:51 PM
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Look at the wii U. it's online features and pro controller are exact replicas of current gen consoles.
The whole point of the Wii U seems to be to have a Wii that plays multiplatform games aswell as the graphically unimpressive Wii games.

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