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What Comes First? PS4 Or Xbox 720?

It's definitely intriguing, but the idea of the new PlayStation and Xbox hitting the shelves at about the same time seems like a pipe dream.

And in fact, we have some evidence that only one next-gen console will launch in 2013. GameStop CEO Paul Raines has clearly stated that his company expects to see a new system in 2013 and another in 2014. And most recently, Activision CEO Bobby Kotick dropped a significant hint - depending on how you interpret his comment - that only one new console is set for next year. 

So that begs the obvious question: Which is it? The PS4 (or Orbis) or Xbox 720? We had heard that Microsoft ran into some manufacturing issues with their new machine, which supposedly pushed back their intended launch. On the other hand, we've heard absolutely nothing concerning a potential release date for Sony's next console, although a few rumored details have leaked out. Logically, it seems the Xbox should come next, as it has been around for a year longer than the PS3 and Microsoft quite simply needs the tech boost. At the same time, developers have been saying that the PS3 could offer a lot more.

Plus, there are still top-notch PS3 exclusives scheduled for the future (Beyond: Two Souls, The Last Of Us, God of War: Ascension) and given Sony's financial position, it seems unlikely they'd want to rush into a new generation. A new console just means heavy losses for a few more years to start out, yes? They also may want to focus on getting the Vita rolling. As for Microsoft, I don't see much that would stop them from launching next year, unless that manufacturing glitch was disastrous enough. Personally, I'm going with the Xbox 720 (or whatever they end up calling it); it just appears to be far more likely. But what do you say?

Tags: next gen, next generation, ps4, playstation 4, xbox 720, orbis

11/10/2012 10:37:44 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (43 posts)

dlte
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 11:03:24 AM
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I think that microsoft will release first, but the PS4 will be only a few months behind instead of the year between the 360 and PS3. Maybe like November/December for the Xbox and February/March for the PS4.

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stay3r1337
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 11:44:27 PM

"Microsoft quite simply needs the tech boost"???? Seriously??? Even after all these years 95% of the 3rd party tittles runs or loads faster and smoother on the xbox360. And only 5 people owns a 7.1 decoding uncompressed audio system hooked up to their system. Soo, that extra bluray space is not what it sounds like. Go and buy forza horizon and then talk about 360's graphics capabilitys. Yes, uncharted trilogy is th best looking console game franchise of alltime but that's because naughty dog and it's gargantuan talents. Both are awesome gaming machines and both are capable of producing quite similar graphics. Just my 0.2

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 6:02:52 AM

@Stay3r: I think this whole myth about the supposedly endless untapped potential of the PS3 more and more start to look like good old fanboy raves.

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Underdog15
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 9:01:30 AM

0.2 would be twenty cents.

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firesoul453
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 9:53:23 PM

I had no idea that one game was 95% of 3rd party games released in the past 3 years....

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manofchao5
Monday, November 12, 2012 @ 3:56:08 AM

screw the xbox, if its anything like the one now, they're gonna make it proprietary crap so that you can't change the hdd freely, use usb flash sticks with out some format that takes up the whole drive with junk files when viewed by a pc and the headset plugs in the controller, those are the reasons I don't like their hardware plus a few more not really much more important

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 11:24:13 AM
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It'll be MS, that glitch supposedly only set them off by some months time. I expect an E3 roll-out followed by an Xmas release. One must assume Kotex favors Xbox because they sell more CoD so it would be at the forefront of his mind and warrant that mention.

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Lord carlos
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 11:40:21 AM
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Don't care about xbox but considering theres nothing on PC that head & shoulders blows the PS3 out of the water,i don't think anything is needed for another 3-4 years.
PS3 is fine just fine

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LaasYaNir
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 12:20:49 PM

You may think that, but apparently MS and Sony don't agree.

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Cole
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 12:23:53 PM
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I think we might be seeing the end of traditional console gens, where all three companies launch at roughly the same time and compete directly with one another. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing. Competition is good for consumers. But it's also nice to see when a company sticks to their guns instead of copying the competition, or simply catering to the mainstream.

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Temjin001
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 12:33:10 PM
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The next gen actually started with Uncharted 2 and GoW3. I experienced more of it last night with Uncharted 3.

But I see MS trying something Wondows 8 and Xbox 8 related next year.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 12:56:26 PM

I hope Uncharted 3 was a peek at the physics in the next gen.

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Temjin001
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 1:12:26 PM

We'll see. That water level stuff will be hard to beat =)

Yah so i told myself id hold off on Halo 4 until after the school quarter but after class yesterday I drove home and saw my wife had a bunch of moms over with their kids and I was like, "crap, not going in there" so I kept on driving and tried to figure out what to do in a boring college town until the moms and kids were gone. I decided to go to the happening Safeway strip center and hit up Blockbuster in hopes to rent Halo 4.. It was fate ;)
Well, all 28 copies were rented out. Feeling bummed a NEW shiney copy of Uncharted 3 was there for $20. I thought, " yah, I actually feel like doing some Uncharted." I bought it, and that concludes the story of my yesterday..... =p

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telly
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 1:11:49 PM
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If I had to pick one I'd go xbox 720, but my money is on both coming out next holiday season. I just don't think Sony is going to let Microsoft get a year-long headstart again (and that would be a TWO year headstart for Nintendo.) The PlayStation brand is not what it used to be, and Sony can't expect to drop their console whenever they please and expect consumers the world over to fork over hundreds of dollars whether they've bought a competing console or not. Sony needs to take the competition on directly, and I think the best way to do that is to launch practically day and date with Microsoft.

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 1:13:20 PM
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My phat PS3 is still standing vertical and no problems yet, so I'm sticking with Sony and Nintendo systems. Don't like that I have to pay extra for playing online on the xbox 360.

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Ignitus
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 3:57:47 PM

I agree, I see no compelling reason to pay for a gold suscription on Xbox.

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tes37
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 1:58:09 PM
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My guess would be that the new xbox will release first. I think the ps4 will follow around a year later.

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Knightzane
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 2:06:07 PM
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When the 720 is rushed and has a 70% fail rate again im sure it won't matter if it releases first or not. Im more concerned about the launch games for the ps4. Killzone 3 has some incredible details and graphics. The thought of killzone 4 gives me the chills. I know it won't happen but Demons Souls 2 is something else i would like to see. Atlus may not be a 10* dev, but they've created some fantastic games this gen. Catherine was so addictive and i actually started having dreams about being a sheep... Im serious it digs into your psyche.

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Simcoe
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 2:21:03 PM
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Have we heard anything about Xbox 720 dev kits being delivered. That might give us some clue as to who might launch first.

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Leafs25
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 2:36:00 PM
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''Logically, it seems the Xbox should come next, as it has been around for a year longer than the PS3 and Microsoft quite simply needs the tech boost''

That is the type of comment I'd expect from someone who is a complete troll.

Bottom line is that both the xbox and ps3 are outdated systems and the current up to date PC destroys both in terms of power, graphics. The Ps3 is great but obviously cannot give a significant increase in performance of what we have already seen. That just isn't my opinion that is hardware limitation for ya. Next Gen cannot come fast enough for me.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 8:48:42 PM

Actually the PS3 continually pushes games that seem to improve (at least the first party games). KZ3 was more advanced than KZ2, Uncharted 3's visuals are some of the best we've ever seen even compared to a pc (of course there's some amazing things on the pc). I know we havnt seen much from the Last of Us or Beyond: Two Souls but I'm willing to bet they make the PS3 stand up to that 10 year life span Sony has claimed it has. So far it's absolutely true.

That quote, is indeed correct. Sure the 360 has some good looking games but nothing that continually advances. It's hit a wall, that's obvious from the past couple years. But that isnt talking bad about the system, I mean it's been out for around 7 years, it's dated.

Fortunately for the PS3 there is continually improvement.

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___________
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 2:39:15 AM

dude thats a load of tripe!
the 360 has seen gradual upgrades each title just like the ps3 has.
especially now with halo 4 god that was a kick in the balls!
just the second level when you walk out and see the ring, reminds me of the original.
cry, so beautiful.
or even all the space stations as you look out into space and see all the ships floating past.
just the pure scale of the game is jaw dropping!

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bigrailer19
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 8:40:26 PM

Listen ________, we could argue about this all day long I'm sure. Bottom line, the 360 hasn't released anything to the likes of Uncharted 2, or KZ2 and those are predecessors to the latest in the franchise that even further the gap between the two consoles. The list doesn't end with those 2 games either. The quality of Sonys first party games are unparalleled!

So sure maybe Halo 4 does look great, and that's awesome, I'm glad that even without Bungie at the helm another developer can step up and please the fans.

But let's be honest here... The 360 is producing games of - not bad quality - just lesser quality. I'll admit though even after I said I wast interested in Halo 4, just knowin how much I enjoyed the first Halo makes me want to play Halo 4. It looks good!

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___________
Monday, November 12, 2012 @ 7:48:33 AM

no, it has.
when you think about it every single "flag holder" $ony has is extremely restricted in what it does.
uncharted is linear as hell, and has few special effects, particle effects, the lighting engine is not as good as say BF3, or other games, sparks flying off metal when you shoot it, no destructible environments.
AIs not the best either.
pretty much same goes for KZ, and every other game.
they do 1 thing incredibly well, and forget everything else.
MP games, and a few 360 exclusives alan wake and halo 4 especially, do everything.
ps3 gets a 10 because of one category done so well, but MP and others get 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 9 because all of the catagories are done so well.
in short its better to have a game that does many things well but nothing perfectly, than have a game that does 1 thing perfectly and nothing well everything else is meh.
theres heaps of MP games out there that have done everything, physics, destructible environments, particle effects, lighting, AI, scale, everything much better than uncharted has, AND they have just as good graphics.


halo 4 has everything, AND it does it either better or just as good as weve ever seen from consoles this gen!
scale, texture detail, physics, lighting engine, particle effects, AI, open levels, EVERYTHING was perfect!
having infinity crash in front of your face and seeing all the dirt flying into the atmosphere and seeing the dydact or whatever its called, in the distance escaping is just jaw dropping!
uncharted has nothing in such a large distance scale such as that.
and halo 4 is chock full of em!


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JROD0823
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 2:37:09 PM
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@ Temjin, the 8 is rumored to be turned on its side for the next xbox, creating an infinity symbol.

Not that I particularly care, unless they performed some form of black magic where online play was free and equal across the board and games sold for $5 a piece, I'll be sticking with Sony.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 3:07:30 PM
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The xbox will come first. Cobsidering the lack of technical capabilities the xbox appears to have hit a wall, and I'm sure MS has been steadily working to catch up in power to the PS3 and try to come up with a gimmick that can compete with Nintendo.

Here's where my theory gets a little interesting though. Aside from pushing FPS games, MS has completely adjusted their advertising to not games, but Kinect. Everything "is better with Kinect" (although, only the voice recognition is getting any praise), nothing is being advertised as "better on the xbox360". I truly believe they are aiming for Nintendos market, and that would be good for them of they took some of that market. But they may lose some of their consumers in doing so. I truly think they are so obsessed with the motion side of gaming they may end up competing for that market. That's where it's good for Sony.

Otherwise Sony needs to come out swinging. It's ok if the PS4 releases a little later (not too much) if the launch games are awesome. They still need to release that thing within a reasonable time frame though.

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Beamboom
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 3:35:29 PM
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My gut feeling tells me MS will be first, but oh my God how I *sincerely* hope it's not by much.

The very thought of having to sit there and wait month after month while watching the goodies rain on the newly launched Xbox will be pure torture. Torture, I say!


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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 8:54:52 PM

I though the same thing about the 360 when it released, but the games I was playing at the end of the PS2's cycle were amazing. Didn't even think about the 360 not even once.

Now we've got sort of the same situation here (assuming the 720 releases in 2013), with The Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls and, possibly The Last Guardian All still to be released.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 6:07:23 AM

Oh there's plenty of great games ahead for the current generation. FC3, GTA5, Bioshock Infinite, Watch Dogs... More than enough to keep us busy while we wait.

But I wish they all were made for the PS4 instead. I would not mind one tiny bit if Far Cry 3 was the last title released for the current gen consoles.


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karneli lll
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 4:31:11 PM
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I think Sony is waiting on MS to announce the 720. Clever move,they get a chance to one up MS. This time Sony will strike before MS.

Last i heard MS is frantically searching to an alternative to the blu ray format

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 7:10:02 PM

I don't think MS cares about analternative to blu-ray. Sure they probably want something that holds more data, but they know they've got everyone fooled into thinking anything upscaled is true HD. Either that or people just don't care. I think it's the former in which that's a place MS can save money and still presumably have the same consumer base.

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___________
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 2:46:18 AM
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its hard to say really.
weve had equal leaked information from each parties, maybe a little more from M$ with the recent document detailing how they intend to incorporate a new type of kinect.
but its been pretty even so its really anyones race.
if i had to bet id go with the next xbox simply because M$ have commented on it, albeit acting dumb, at least they have commented on it.
$ony just churns out the usual we dont comment on rumor and speculation line.
the documentation looks more real, the leaks about it seem less outlandish, and theres been allot of rumors about its next gen titles.
hell, 343 just put a job listing up for the next halo game stating development on a future console.
same with cryteks ryse, it just seems too coincidental that its been announced for 2 years and they have not said boo!
ever since it was announced there were rumors it was a next gen title, now its really starting to look that way.
so yea id have to go with the xbox scraping in a little earlier simply because theres slightly more to go off, and what there is seems a little more likely.
there in a MUCH better financial position than $ony too!

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ulsterscot
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 3:59:00 AM
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The Steambox is coming - Sony/Microsoft - be afraid - be very afraid

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 6:17:54 AM

You know anything new in these regards? I'm just waiting for it to become official!

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bigrailer19
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 8:42:40 PM

I'm not sure even MS or Sony have anything to worry about in regards to power. I'm absolutely certain Sony doesn't have to worry about First party games, they have quality that's hard to match. As far as anything else, maybe. But the games are what matter here...

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Caanimal
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 1:42:58 PM
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If Sony doesn't release the PS4 first then it will be released just months after the new micro&soft thing... I'm pretty sure Sony has learned from their mistakes this gen and will not give micro&soft the same type of head start and they will have a much better starting line up of games at launch.

My personal guess, one system will release at Xmas '13 w/ the other one 1st quarter '14. Although I wouldn't mind seeing releases being pushed back a year...

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DjEezzy
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 1:57:48 PM
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People buy into the xbox hype entirely too much. It is an inferior machine plain and simple. From the lack of bluray to the lack of free online play to the lack of amazing First party AAA titles. Everyone i talk to only has an xbox for 2 reasons... Halo and Gears of war. Thats it!!! To say that the xbox is just as capable and even better in some cases is just ignorant. If it was just as capable then why aren't we seeing games like God of war, uncharted, Gran Turismo, Heavy Rain , MGS and even infamous?!? There are plenty more but i don't want to go on on and on. See the playstation has enough great AAA titles that are first party that i could go on and on about. I can count the xbox great first party titles on one hand, actually two fingers. LOL.


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Ignitus
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 4:10:14 PM

Talking about ignorance...

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Id00urmomma
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 2:16:02 PM
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If Sony waits a year or longer again its over for them, Xbox was clearly inferior but people want it now, not in 6 months or a year from now, so people don't and won't wait on Sony to play catch up again, they have to beat Microcrap or the gap will be too big to come back from... :( I hope they've learned from the Ps3...

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PHOENIXZERO
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 3:34:17 PM
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Both could easily make it out in 2013 neither are using complicated to produce hardware and from the look of things the next XBox and PS4 are going to be nearly identical hardware wise. Still the next XBox will probably be out first followed by the PS4 no more than six months later. Probably more like 2-4 months which is insignificant and even if it were a year, it'd mean nothing in the long run.


The only thing to really look at next generation will be exclusives for each platform.

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Ignitus
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 3:44:51 PM
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The Xbox Surface will arrive first.

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DjEezzy
Sunday, November 11, 2012 @ 7:32:37 PM
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Proof is in the puddin sir/ma'am. Can't argue with facts.

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Nynja
Monday, November 12, 2012 @ 3:10:14 PM
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Sony PS4 Orbis - October - November 2013
Developers are already receiving the near final version of their dev kits. One rumor suggests Sony will announce PS4 in January/February then debut the console at E3.

Microsoft Xbox 8 - September 2013 -if supply issues resolved / Spring/Fall 2014 -if supply issues not resolved


FYI: The final version PS3 dev kit was in developers hands the same year the PS3 was released. Rumor has it that the final version of the PS4 dev kit will be released to developers in January 2013. Based on previous PS3 release cycles, PS4 is on target for a Fall 2013 release.

Interesting Note: Lots of rumors are pointing to 8GB or 16GB of on board memory for the PS4 dev kits. Normally dev kits include at least double the RAM of the actual console specs for debugging purposes. Early PS3 dev kits were reported to have 512MB XDR RAM. In the end, PS3 had a total of 256MB XDR RAM. Could the PS3 really offer 8GB? This could explain the 'conflicting' memory reports form different developers who have their PS4 dev kits already. Some may be reporting what the dev kits have and others could be reporting what is actually available for the games.

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