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PlayStation 4 And Xbox One Worldwide Sales Neck-And-Neck?

Sony recently announced that around 2.1 million PlayStation 4 consoles had been sold worldwide. That's great.

But not to be outdone, Microsoft announced today that the worldwide tally for the Xbox One has surpassed 2 million. That means the two consoles are essentially tied right now.

For clarification purposes, that 2 million number represents units sold-through to consumers and on average, over 111,000 units have been sold per day. That's a "record-setting pace for Xbox," and Microsoft is further reporting "incredible engagement" with the system: 83 million hours in games, TV and apps since the launch on November 22. There have also been over 1 million paid transactions on Xbox Live so far. Xbox One owners have unlocked over 39 million Achievements already, too.

Looks like my prediction has already come true. If the two systems are just about tied in the worldwide count, what are the chances that Xbox One outsold the PS4 in the European territories? In contrast, what are the chances that the Xbox One has currently sold more units in the US, which is what I've been saying would happen all along? We know what the right answer is, now don't we? And don't give me that supply-and-demand nonsense because even Microsoft is saying that Xbox One is sold out in most places right now; both systems are tough to find.

Tags: ps4, playstation 4, ps4 sales, xbox one sales

12/11/2013 11:35:42 AM Ben Dutka

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Cole
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 11:55:24 AM
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If they are tied then I believe it's because Sony seems to be having trouble producing enough consoles to meet the demand. Once both consoles are readily available, I think Sony will take the lead.

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squibbfire
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 12:01:38 PM
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Sony stated they sold 2 million more then a week ago..

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Temjin001
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:35:01 PM

exactly. following this right now is pretty much pointless.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 5:40:25 PM

This is what I was thinking too!

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Sandtech
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 12:02:38 PM
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MS has to be feeling pretty good right now. They are neck and neck with the competition and their product cost $100.00 dollars more.

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eatatjoes
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 12:47:51 PM

hasn't the ps4 not launched in like a ton of markets including japan yet though? i mean, that has to count for a TON of sales no? it's to early to say they are tied as it isn't a full release yet. xbox has worldwide sales, ps4 has a soft release sales list, and they are tied.....

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H0TSHELLZ
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 12:07:03 PM
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Still Haven't got mine yet lol.........Like 1 counts

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Cole
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 12:23:57 PM

I'm only getting mine next year. The launch lineup just isn't to my liking.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 12:34:33 PM
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Meh I don't really care. Sony's machine is more popular there just isn't enough on the shelf. The Xbox appears to be in higher quantity available at any given time.

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Brighat
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 12:38:18 PM
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I'm sure Sony is closing in on 3 million worldwide now. Sony will maintain that million unit lead all the way into February; which is when we see more exclusive software and AAA games released on PS4 and Xbox One. We'll see what happens then.

Looks like many people wanted to move to next gen alongside me.

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big6
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:04:37 PM
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Didn't Microsoft also claim Windows 8 was flying off the shelves and selling like hot cakes? Yeah...

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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:11:25 PM
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Wait until we get the final numbers for the first couple of months from an objective source before you draw any conclusions, guys.

Microsoft can claim whatever they want, let's wait until the dust settles and the facts are on the table.


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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:21:07 PM

Okay, so the implication is that Microsoft is lying. That the numbers are false because they're not objective.

...really?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:27:18 PM

I do think MS plays with their numbers more than anybody.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:55:23 PM

The hype trick of calling something sold out is age old and can very easily be (and often are) created. The sales numbers likewise. So I'm not calling them liars more than I call any corporate marketing department for liars. One might say they are, but that's beside the point here.

All I'm saying is let's wait until after the xmas sales and holidays are over and the actual result is clear. Let's then judge how these few first months went.
That's really all I am saying. Let's not get caught in any hype either way.

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Sandtech
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:15:08 PM

Beamboom has a point.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:46:12 PM

yep, Beam, we gotta move past the zone where the demand exceeds the supply. This is what happens way after the launch window and holiday dust settles before we start seeing how things will settle out. Right now all we're seeing is who managed to ship the most to outlets.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 3:25:24 PM

Yeah but it's not even that easy, Temjin.

Like, what is "sold out"? What does it mean? If you are a bit strategic with the supply you can create temporary higher demand than supply - thus "sold out" at select retailers - almost regardless of the actual demand and stock. It's just a question of planning and timing.

Also, what exactly are the sales numbers based on? One thing is for sure, it's not the total number of sold units across all retailers - that's not available data for them.
So is it the number shipped to their regional distributors? Is it the number of received orders from these distributors? The number shipped to the retailers? The reservations from the retailers?
Just, what? Extremely likely the highest number found amongst the above.

And how exact are those numbers? How can we know they are not been "rounded up" quite generously?
The answer is: We can't.

So as far as I am concerned all this should be trusted just as much as we trust an advertising campaign. Cause that's what this is: Marketing. Pure and plain marketing.


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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 5:32:51 PM

So let me get this straight: It's just marketing from a Microsoft standpoint when they say the SOLD-THROUGH number to consumers is 2 million.

But it's just facts when Sony issues the exact same statement, worded the exact same way, with an almost identical number...?

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Shams
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 6:02:50 PM

Exact number, maybe even exact wording, but more than a week earlier? What is clear even before the holiday season's dust settles is that MS has given up the clear market advantage they had from '05-'06. So, let's not pretend MS is the underdog here. From that perspective, Sony is already the clear victor in this round. Next round, MS will be hoping their investment in Titan Fall exclusivity will make up for their price point and launch window disadvantages.

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Shams
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 6:11:28 PM

Worth mentioning, any advantage offered by Titan Fall initial exclusivity to the Xbone/PC most likely will be dampened by multiplatformers like former Halo-maker's Destiny and Titan Fall sequels.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 6:14:08 PM

I know Sony is the victor. A tie would be a huge victory.

My point is that Xbox will continue to sell better in this country. And I think these numbers prove that already. But if people want to wait, then by all means, wait.

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Shams
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 7:14:44 PM

That I'm not so sure about anymore, either. Sony, as you remember, was once the big kid on the block, and they gave that up to MS, because of price point, one year advantage, and Halo. Aside from uncertain sale figures, I've even noticed a difference in the media. Even the likes of main stream media sources such as IGN, that have been historically more favorable to the 360 have been quite giddy about the ps4 and a tad mum about the xbone. They haven't totally changed their antics, but I've noticed a real difference.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 7:43:45 PM

Yes you should be more skeptical of numbers claims from MS versus numbers claims from Sony. I'll let you figure out why.

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xenris
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 11:05:29 PM

Microsoft has been known to lie about a lot of its products so I wouldn't trust the numbers they are giving.

They could be twisting it, like they shipped over 2 million units to stores but how many of those units actually sold etc.

I don't think they are 100% lying I know there are a lot of people who were going to get Xones, but I think there might be some twisting of the numbers here.

Also Sony needs to get more units shipped, I think if Xone is selling that much its only because there aren't any PS4s and a lot of people just want a new console.

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Beamboom
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 3:24:26 AM

Bah, I knew I should have explicitly stated this when I first started the discussion: What I say here do of course also apply to Sony.
I actually stated that in my first draft of my last post, but later deleted it again to shorten the post a little.
I hoped my sentence "Let's not get caught in any hype either way" kinda implied that. Let's not get caught in this hype, from EITHER party.

Let's wait for the facts - that's all I am saying. Cause what we witness here is classic hype at play:
- "We are sold out!"
- "Hey we are ALSO sold out!"
- "We sold two mill the first weeks!"
- "Hey we did ALSO sell two mill first weeks!"
- "Our launch is the best EVER!"
- "Hey our launch is ALSO the best EVER!"
- "We got lots of new machines coming up!"
- "Hey we ALSO got a ton of new machines coming shortly!"

And so forth. This is marketing executives working on overdrive. Their product must appear to be the most sought after, but at the same time also be the product their potential customers can easily get soon enough - "don't give up hope, your machine is next up! You're LUCKY!".

It's like when Sony kept stating that the launch of Vita went "as planned". Yeah right. "No problems here, go ahead and buy it dear customer. No worries. Step right up."
... kind regards, the Sony marketing department.

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Xombito
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:22:54 PM
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I don't know a damn person around me that has a xbone or even interested in getting one. Its been all PS4. Whether its friends around me on Facebook, hell, even the nearby gamestop who seem to talk about the PS4 more. Something is off here. I'll just leave it at that.

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Caanimal
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 7:53:42 PM

Same here, all my coworkers are either waiting and/or going PS4 this time around, only me and 2 others (out of 12 people who I work with) picked up any game system thus far(one a PS4 and the other got both). It used to be only me as the sole PS3 owner, there were 2 others who owned both systems, all the rest were Xbots, now that has changed greatly, most are going duel console while 2 or 3 others are switching to solely PS4s. I really have to bite my tongue when people speak of how "GREAT" the XBone is doing, not that I'm saying it's doing poorly...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:29:22 PM
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I get 3 text messages per day that say "Amazon has Xbox One back in stock." I think it being out of stock anywhere ever has been something manufactured.

It's gonna be awesome when PS4 hits Japan.

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johnld
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:54:09 PM

heres what i saw in gamestop black friday. alot more xbones than ps4s, ps4s selling while xbones barely selling, people asking about ps4s. im really surprised that xbones are sold out. makes me think theyre holding supply to say its sold out.


funny part for me is that positions are switched now. ps3 was the all in one box while 360 aas gaming focus. now its the other way around.

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daus26
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 5:48:01 PM

Meanwhile, on Amazon, I'm still waiting for my notification on PS4 availability!

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johnld
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 11:14:34 PM

just go to gamestop. they seem to get new ps4 shipments every wednesday.

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wackazoa
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:42:24 PM
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Well you did say that Xbox was more for casual gamers and that PS4 was more for hardcore gamers. Logical tells us that there are more casual gamers than hardcore gamers. So Xbox should sell more.


Not trying to be a "this is not news" person, but what is the point of keeping track of who's ahead?

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Sandtech
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:00:26 PM

Are casual gamers really going to spend $100.00 more for a console?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:39:50 PM

Just for folks who like to follow the industry it's interesting to read about.

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wackazoa
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:44:07 PM

@Sandtech, I dont know. People still buy Apple products.

@World, Ok. I was confused that maybe there was some reason for these articles,I.E. that one side would stop making their consoles or that software companies were chosing sides and leaving the loser out.

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Caanimal
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 7:56:42 PM

I find it more entertaining reading the comments to topics/posts such as this, especially from the rabid fanboys/girls (of either system) on other forum based sites...


Quite entertaining...

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Kiryu
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 1:49:15 PM
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2.1 Million PS4's as of Dec 3rd, 10 days have passed since that so can't really tell now.

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johnld
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:47:55 PM
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xbone sold in a few specific countries ps4 sold in US and recently in europe. also ps4 numbers are a week old. but japan and i think asian terrtories still havnt got ps4. japan dont get ps4s till february and thats when xbone gets left behind. they sold to those specific countries because those are the ones they thought they have a chance of winning. if ps3 vs 360 sales in asian territories will be the same, microsoft will be let behind. if theyre losing the US share, ps4 1 mil in us vs xbone 1 mil worldwide sales, then they dont really have anything left.

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slow and smart
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 2:59:23 PM
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well if that should be true,than according to EVERYWHERE and really everywhere that the ps4 is much better sold then PS4 should be at 3 million now.MS can say what they want,and so can i lol
Don't worry,PS4 is easy the best selling console everywhere in the world[uk 250000/150000 and this in a former xbox country]Also for example in Spain the sales where about 3 to 1 in favor of the ps4,in the usa the sales where 1250000/750000,those numbers where also mentioned in different news about salesnumbers.some where done by PS.
So believe what you want to believe


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Gordo
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 3:30:44 PM
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In Australia there haven't been any PS4s available for weeks and none until 2014. There are plenty of XboxOnes to pick up. I am sure the impatient casuals are picking up the Xboxes for Christmas. If Sony had kept up with demand it would have been better...

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kraygen
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 3:58:32 PM
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There have been 4 xbox ones in stock at both walmart's near my house, but I haven't seen a ps4 at either of them.

Been that way every week since launch for both consoles, not sure what it's like elsewhere, but if I wanted an xbox one I would have no problem getting one.

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DarthNemesis
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 4:19:56 PM
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It's just a claim as they did not give exact numbers. Sony has posted exact numbers while MS just said over 2 million. The PS4 is available in more countries right now so I doubt they are neck to neck. The 2.1 million PS4 sold was weeks ago so I imagine it is nearly 4 million by now.MS still has not said how much they sold in the US alone.

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slugga_status
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 4:25:08 PM
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Xbox one isn't close to sold out at most places..in the KC metro they are available and on shelves...

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Hand_of_Sorrow
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 5:35:48 PM
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same here where i live in canada, lots of X1s in stock
but no PS4s

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Akuma07
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 5:43:10 PM
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PS4 is sold out everywhere. They are not able to meet demand. I think they would be able to sell another million at least if they could supply enough.

Also, Sony released the 2.1 million numbers awhile ago.

But it's okay Ben, I understand the need for a sensationalist article title.

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daus26
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 5:44:16 PM
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I went to Best Buy and on the entrance, it clearly says in big bold letters, Xbone in stock. Chances are, from my experience and what everyone is saying here, supply and demand is the main issue for Sony, not Microsoft.

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Knightzane
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 6:13:47 PM
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The numbers are wrong at the moment. Microsoft hasn't broken 2 million yet, but they are semi-close. And as people above mentioned, Sony announced that number over a week ago.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Wednesday, December 11, 2013 @ 8:16:00 PM
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yeah well we all thought that sony being 1.1mil ahead was probably too gud to be true. but it was nice while it lasted

happy gaming =)

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JackC8
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 9:32:29 AM
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Right now you're just dealing with the fanboys who bought it day one or soon after. I think the Xbox One will run out of steam pretty quick when we start getting into general consumers.

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Cuetes
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 10:48:54 AM
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I'm calling BS, MS is obviously blowing smoke up our asses. Did Sony just stop selling consoles? Not likely, which leads me to believe it is not as close as this article implies.

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VictorDeLeon
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 3:17:51 PM
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damn, will someone compare what's comparable? take a period of 14 days, not taking into account one was released first as it makes the comparison inaccurate, and choose a number of countries where both consoles were released, then we have some good elements to compare

something to note though, PS4 is sold out everywhere, but XBOX could reach 2 million only because there are more stocks, maybe Sony would have sold 1M more if enough consoles were in shops

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berserk
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 3:20:11 PM
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We all know who will win in japan tho .

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Caanimal
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 7:38:56 PM
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Two things...

1. In the past few days I've called around to several GameStops (there are like 12 stores w/in 50 miles of me here in Wichita KS, look it up if you don't believe me) to "argue"(more like antagonize) w/ a coworker, and none were showing any PS4s in stock while most had at least a few XBones, I've also checked WalMarts and Targets in the area and get pretty much the same story, so either micro&soft are BSing that systems are "sold out everywhere" or stores are BSing me...

2. The PS3 is currently out in what, 3 regions, and that DOESN'T include Japan and has THAT many sales while XBone had a full "world wide" 13 market release and are only BARELY pulling those same numbers? I wouldn't say micro&soft and the XBone are doing POORLY but they DEFINENTLY are NOT doing as well as certain entities want you to believe they are doing.

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Crabba
Thursday, December 12, 2013 @ 9:14:22 PM
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It's interesting to note that Costco is already selling the Xbox 1 at a discounted $480 right now, that's not very typical console launch...

Haven't seen any similar discounts on the PS4 front.

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