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Tomb Raider Dev Explains Full-Priced Definitive Edition

Tomb Raider is indeed one of the best games of 2013. There's no disputing that.

But is the upcoming Definitive Edition for the PlayStation 4 really worth the full cost of admission ($60)? Many gamers have questioned this decision, and developer Crystal Dynamics has been good enough to explain the reasoning behind this pricing.

The studio held a Q&A in the official Eidos forums, and they were asked the following: "Do you think it's justified to sell a full-priced upgrade of the game so soon after the original's release?" And Crystal Dynamics responded:

"It’s a great question and while I don’t control sales or prices, what I do know is that Tomb Raider is an awesome game. It has received many nominations and has an amazing fan base that keeps us striving to always deliver the best and always pushing ourselves to even do better. If it was “only a facelift” AND we were only reselling it on the same platforms we’d already shipped it on, I would see your point. But as we’re selling it on a new platform, with a lot of development work put in to custom craft it for the new platforms; with the new additions for the aesthetic, the physics, the particles, the lighting – taking advantage of next-gen features – so I absolutely stand by our decision to offer up Definitive Edition the way we are.

We’d love for every Tomb Raider fan to get to experience it on next-gen. We are definitely looking to draw in those folks who may not have experience it yet on the last generation so they can experience this version on next-generation. But even for existing hardcore fans, we are confident in the offering we have as an excellent enhanced experience above and beyond what we’d previously provided. We wouldn’t bring it to you all if we felt otherwise. You are the reasons we do what we do."

So, are you satisfied? The explanation does make a lot of sense, although we're willing to bet that not all gamers will see it that way. The Definitive Edition for Tomb Raider will launch on January 28 for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Will you be picking it up?

Related Game(s): Tomb Raider

Tags: tomb raider, tomb raider definitive edition, tomb raider ps4

12/30/2013 9:35:13 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (21 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 10:18:17 PM
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Yup I'm getting it for certain. I think we should forgo our usual entitledness and trust them that the extra effort was worth it. It's like a cop's hunch, but a gamer's hunch instead.

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kay Oss
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:55:25 AM

Regardless of facelift change of physics. Its still the same game, it just looks prettier. For example, FFX HD remaster is a port and also a facelift. But they are only charging $40 and im pretty sure they put as much time into this as Tomb Raider. In addition FFX HD comes with FFX-2.

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Temjin001
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 10:19:51 PM
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but is it just a facelift though? the wording there sounds cosmetic when he lists the many visual improvements yet speaks of nothing game play wise.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:06:14 PM

I don't think the gameplay needs to change, but if it took a year of development to add all this stuff to take advantage of the systems I remain confident. I think a facelift would just be upping the output to 1080p and walking away, instead they have new physics and new character models and full rez textures.

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Temjin001
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:24:36 PM

I'll be happy with my $5 version for now. Then when this "definitive" edition drops to something in the same neighborhood I could consider it.

personally, similar to TLoU thing, it seems better that Crystal Dynamics would be working on a full new adventure rather than dragging out the eventual sequel with an overhaul of an existing game.
as for the $60 thing. really, games drop so dang fast these days it's nothing to worry about.

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Temjin001
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:33:42 PM

this is especially so when you consider how fast S-E whores out their games to the lowest bidders in under a year's time in many cases.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 6:26:15 AM

True that, whoever doesn't want to pay that price won't have long to wait. The Steam method is taking over console gaming lock stock and barrel.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 12:44:50 PM

As far as I'm concerned it's almost come to a point now where it is downright stupid to pay full price for a game - they drop so fast anyway, it's only a question of a little bit of patience.

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Kryten1029a
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 10:31:04 PM
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There's no way that this deserves a full price release. They're porting it over to a new platform and giving it a few tweaks; that might justify $40 but $60? No way, no how, nuh uh! They even admit it when they say, "If it was 'only a facelift' AND we were only reselling it on the same platforms we’d already shipped it on, I would see your point". The fact that they're selling it on the PS4 and Xbone is what justifies the price in their minds; not the amount of work done.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:06:52 PM

the implication in that statement is that it isn't just a facelift.

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Kryten1029a
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:29:05 PM

What I took from that was "If we'd prettied it up and re-released it on PS3/360 then it wouldn't have been worth full price. Instead, we prettied it up and released in on PS4 and Xbone, so we'll charge $60". That likely isn't what they meant but that's what it looks like to me. It'll look better but it won't play better.

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Temjin001
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:35:02 PM

it sure as heck needs to look a lot better than their PS4 VGX trailer to be something more than just a facelift I reckon.

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Geobaldi
Monday, December 30, 2013 @ 11:57:55 PM

It basically is just a facelift though, on consoles anyway, as pretty much everything they are putting into this new version is the same stuff that the PC version already had. Other then the new character models that this new one will have, I don't see anything really new that is being added. I'm just curious if the new version will still be locked at 30FPS like the original console version, or will it run at 60FPS like the PC version did.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 6:28:44 AM

I suppose it depends on your definition of a facelift. I think of a basic HD update of a PS2 game a facelift, like the Devil May Cry collection. It's all the exact same, pretty or ugly, but in HD. For Final Fantasy X however, SE has gone into the engine and used different models and higher resolution textures and such. Personally I consider that type of thing more than a simple facelift because it's a hella lot of work. And Tomb Raider is actually changing physics now too, which must have been a big effort.

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___________
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 1:17:36 AM
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so the development costs of porting it is exactly the same as building the whole game from scratch is it?
oh bull f*cking sh*t!
im sorry but just because you have had to take the game back into development and apply a second coat of paint to things does not justify charging full price for it.
especially when the PC game is on sale ATM for 30 bucks!
hmmmmmmm spend 30 bucks on the PC version, which will look and run allot better, or spend 110 on the same version but with worse graphics and performance.
i know which on id choose!
knew $Es greediness and idiocy would rub off on eidos eventually.........
allowing $E to buy eidos is the biggest injustice this world has ever seen!



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infamousgodV2_0
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 6:57:11 AM
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I still have the Ps3 version still to be playied yet. i have it but i just never started it yet. maybe i'll just wait till the Ps4 version releases enless Ps3 & Ps4 trophies stack.

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sobleck
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 7:39:36 AM
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I don't know, wouldn't a pc port work just as well....

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 9:36:41 AM

no, the game is fundamentally altered.

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JackC8
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 8:25:30 AM
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Kind of have to laugh at them trying to milk people for another sixty bucks for what is essentially the PC version, which I picked up for ten bucks on the Steam Summer Sale.

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Geobaldi
Wednesday, January 01, 2014 @ 12:56:06 AM

Yep it's $10 bucks again today, but it's been cheaper then that at one point that I remember.

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Cuetes
Tuesday, December 31, 2013 @ 10:24:54 AM
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I highly doubt that all these improvements add up to $60. The game is old no matter how many times you say you polished it. It's a cash grab and highly suspect.

That being said, I held off on this game and I'm glad I did. I'll wait till it drops in price and scoop it up.

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