Breaking: Sony's Next Generation Portable Revealed
See Full ImageCode name: NGP (Next Generation Portable). The goal: "to transform every aspect of people's life."
And so it has happened. Mere minutes ago, Sony's new portable unit was unveiled at the PlayStation Meeting in Tokyo. The sleek unit features dual analog sticks (yay!), Sixaxis controls, front and rear cameras, new game media, a larger screen, and even touchpads on both the front and back; it's quite the appealing machine.
The pictures shown at the event show the NGP from a variety of different angles, and other relevant data includes- flash memory, 3G support and WiFi, and according to what Sony boss Shuhei Yoshida said, the "graphics are PS3 quality." The screen will be 5 inches, larger than standard 3.5-inch smartphones, and it'll feature an OLED display that will look brilliant from all angles. It seems you'll be able to use either the touchpad or the micro analog sticks to control the character on the screen. "It's like the world in your hands," Yoshida stated confidently, and everyone seems awfully psyched. Rightfully so; this thing is pretty amazing.
A bunch of games are shown running on the unit, including Reality Fighters, LittleBigPlanet 2, Wipeout, Resistance, and holy God, even Uncharted. That's gonna be pretty insane in the palm of your hand... During the presentation, Yoshida was moving Drake around with the touchpad; he also uses the gyrosensor to make Drake jump. At one point, Yoshida slid his fingers down on the touchpad on the back, and the main character slid down a vine. Simply by touching places, Drake will jump to desired locations, and you can even draw lines to new spots off in the distance. Oh, look an enemy standing on the edge of a cliff...flick the finger at him, and Drake shoves him off the edge.
From what we can tell, that's Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, only with the NGP controls. Evidently, as far as the design of the unit, it's called "Super Oval Design" and although it's a little tough to gauge the actual size right now, the device appears to be about the same size as the original PSP. Perhaps most interesting is the fact that the rear touchpad is 5 inches; the exact same size as the front screen, so where you put your fingers on the back matches up with what you see on the screen. You can even use two fingers! Lastly, the NGP will boast a user interface called LiveArea, where players can learn about new games, access the PSN, and yeah, it's touch-based. There will even be a live feed so you can see exactly what your buddies are doing, if you're into that voyeuristic stuff.
The unit is due out for the holidays, and we'll be anxiously awaiting the price. ...any guesses?
Tags: psp, psp2, playstation portable, psp2 details
1/27/2011 12:17:57 AM Ben Dutka
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:22:28 AM
Anyway, I will enjoy the moment... all around a special day :)
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
Last edited by Qubex on 1/27/2011 2:22:46 AM
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:32:10 AM
Here are the detailed specs, straight from Sony:
>> CPU: ARM® Cortex™-A9 core (4 core)
>> GPU: SGX543MP4+
>> External Dimensions: Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)
>> Rear touch pad: Multi touch pad (capacitive type)
>> Cameras: Front camera, Rear camera
>> Sound: Built-in stereo speakers, Built-in microphone
>> Sensors: Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass
>> Location: Built-in GPS, Wi-Fi location service support
>> Keys / Switches: PS button, Power button, Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left), Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square), Shoulder buttons (Right/Left), Right stick, Left stick, START button
>> SELECT button, Volume buttons
>> Wireless communications: Mobile network connectivity (3G), IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode), Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR （A2DP/AVRCP/HSP
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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wiiplay
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:34:42 AM
Thanks for the info. :)
Here's a list of games, at least from what I can understand.
Hots shots golf, Gravity Daze, Killzone, Hustle Kings, Reality Fighters, Smart As, Broken, Little Big Planet, Little Deviants, Wipeout, Resistance, Uncharted, Monster Hunter, Yakuza 4, Metal Gear Solid: 4, Dungeon Defenders, Call Of Duty
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Shams
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:26:38 AM
Oh, and to all the trophy-harlots out there, google Sony's prerelease trailer on the NGP. You're in luck ;)
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spiderboi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:53:27 AM
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The Doom
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 8:03:13 AM
Happy D-Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Y24SNfH2Q
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shadowpal2
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 8:31:20 AM
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It was like Sony listed to every single fan request and gave us the ultimate device we've all been waiting for.
If this goes for $500 I'm STILL BUYING THIS. HOLY SHIT THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. This is truly a revolution in portable gaming!
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Shams
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:51:11 AM
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:01:55 AM
Best wishes to you all...
Received game vouchers for 2 games - I will get LA Noire and Killzone3... happy times ahead :)
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 12:27:47 AM
Happy belated BD, Qubex!
Hope ya got everything you wanted, or at least needed.
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thepill
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:04:16 AM
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BTNwarrior
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:07:40 AM
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Kiryu
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:10:16 AM
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Yakuza on PSP2 with PS3 shaders shown!
Playstation Forever!
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:11:16 AM
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thepill
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:14:59 AM
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wiiplay
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:16:25 AM
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faraga
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:46:05 PM
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YesterdysRising
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:11:39 AM
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godsman
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:18:12 AM
On top of that, Ipods rely mainly on hardware sales. Sony can take a hit if the price gets outrageous and make the money back on software sales.
I assume it'll be $249 to $299.
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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:03:27 AM
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packersfan66
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:08:12 AM
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YesterdysRising
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:51:45 AM
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Saffleur
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:17:25 AM
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Fane1024
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:18:54 AM
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Dual sticks...Sixaxis...480p (+) screen. I'd say this device fixes a lot of the PSP's shortcomings.
It still needs a cover to protect the screen.
Last edited by Fane1024 on 1/27/2011 1:23:27 AM
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:27:57 AM
And hey, some games like CoD could run at PS3 res on the PSP2. I think those render at like 550p.
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BTNwarrior
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:19:56 AM
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Kevadu
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:22:22 AM
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wiiplay
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:56:00 AM
It just looks way to futuristic to be real.
It's shiny, too.
(Sarcasm, except for the remark about it being shiny. I like shiny things)
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Kevadu
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:22:05 AM
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godsman
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:25:10 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:23:29 AM
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Honestly, the NGP just made the 3DS seem underwhelming.
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:24:48 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:26:51 AM
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BTNwarrior
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:28:09 AM
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Shams
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:56:47 AM
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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:24:43 AM
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So can someone tell me if you can somehow hook up your psp to the PS3 or even tv, to get playback through the tv? Part of the reason I don't own a psp is the small screen. I have terrible eyes and even though I'm nearsighted smaller screens still make me squint lol, and my eyes begin to hurt after a few. If not would this PSP2, or NGP rather be able to maybe?
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Clamedeus
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:40:35 AM
The screen should be big enough to not have any problems with it, and the system it's self is more thick for better and longer gaming time.
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:30:17 AM
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I will definitely be buying this now!
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
Last edited by Qubex on 1/27/2011 1:30:34 AM
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frylock25
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:35:28 AM
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"What I'd like to realize is playing on your PS3, and when you go out, you put the game on your NGP, and when you come back home, you can once again use your PS3 and large screen TV."
"This dream is going to come true in the near future. And right now, I'm working on this project of the dream. I'm sorry, I can't reveal this now. But we'd like to present what we're doing at E3"
-Kojima
Last edited by frylock25 on 1/27/2011 1:36:23 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:38:25 AM
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:56:38 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:35:56 AM
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Now THAT is something that I would definitely pay for! Imagine harvesting the planets in Mass Effect 2 on the go then putting all resources into the main game when you get home. WIN!!
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Fane1024
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:34:50 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:43:13 AM
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Monster Hunter Portable 3rd - downloadable on NGP - being demo'd by Takeuchi-san from CapCom.
Apparently Takeuchi-san hasn't seen the game on a real unit before and is impressed by the visual quality and the feel/control of the analog sticks.
The analog stick in the NGP is a real analogy stick, it actually pivots instead of sliding. Much better feel and control.
Now they're showing Lost Planet running on the NGP. Seems like it's still being polished, but still looks good.
Capcom apparently has other games for NGP in the works.
Yakuza 4
Metal Gear game (MGS4) that uses the same models as MGS4 on PS3.
Kojima says he's working on a game that can be played on PS3 and NGP, so you can take your game with you. This new game will be revealed at E3.
Tim Sweeny presents Dungeon Defenders, previously developed for PS3, moved to NGP in a very short time. The game runs using Epic's Unreal Engine...on the NGP. Interesting...
Activision announces Call of Duty for NGP.
Talk of many more devs, with a list show including the likes of Rockstar.
Final mention of connectivity of some sort with PS3 - would have been shocked if it didn't...
Last edited by Highlander on 1/27/2011 1:45:58 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:45:46 AM
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But by all means, keep talking. :)
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 1/27/2011 1:46:27 AM
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:49:05 AM
I live in PST so it's not even midnight here
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MadPowerBomber
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:56:02 AM
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They should just call the console Black Dynamite. 'Cause that's what it's lookin' like.
But... I'm also watching Black Dynamite as i write this, so I am quite biased.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:57:32 AM
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Summary of tonight's Show from Sony...
"PlayStation Suite" mobile, cross platform gaming, PlayStation on Android.
So it looks like the PS Phone may not be the only option - or even a PlayStation Phone, more of an Xperia with PS-like controls designed to compliment PlayStation suite.
Looks like it's an official PS1 emulation for Android devices. It will also play new games developed for PlayStation Suite.
There's to be a PlayStation store for Android, and games arrive this year (well, it'd be a bit pointless to announce it now if not...).
Now on to NGP - aka PSP2. Specs;
OLED screen - ** 5-inches **
Twin analogs - micro-analog sticks(?)
Sixaxis motion sensing/control technology
front and rear cameras
touch pad on back
bigger screen
new game media
*Touch screen also*
3G and WiFi
flash memory based.
It looks like a honking big PSP.
Gyrosensor
More, courtesy of Frylock - GPS, front and rear touchpads, electronic compass on 3 axes.
The screen resolution is 960x544 - exactly half the resolution (horizontal and vertical) of 1080p. So it has about 1/4 of the number of pixels of a full HD TV - actually it works out at about 200 pixels per inch, which isn't far off laser printing resolution.
They show a picture of the new PSP in someone's hands, it looks about the same size as the original PSP, but the screen is 5-inches now.
New PSP's design is called super-oval. It's more rounded than the original PSP.
The system doesn't appear to slide open, and the controls are laid out roughly like a PSP except with a second analog mirroring the one on the left of the original PSP.
The rear touch panel is 5 inches on the diagonal - the same as the screen and it is set up so where you touch the panel is where you 'touch' the screen - 1-1 control so to speak.
The NGP (new PSP) looks a bit thinner than the original PSP, more like the current PSP-3000, but it's overall length and width are a bit larger.
New user interface called "Live Area".
Online friends information, tracking, in other words the kinds of things you expect now.
Seems to have a tag mode, and can sense when other players are near by, and what they are playing. Nice for ad-hoc mobile gaming.
The NGP will play anything playable in PlayStation Suite, so PlayStation suite is a platform independent virtual environment that allows any Android to play, as long as it meets the minimum specs.
NGP (aka PSP2) will also have trophies - yay....
Downloadable PSP titles will work on the NGP.
Available in the Holiday season 2011
They actually said PS3 quality graphics.
Launch(?) games mentioned....
Hot Shots Golf
Killzone
Garvity Daze
LBP
Uncharted!!!
Resistance
Wipeout
something called Little Deviants
Hustle Kings
Smart as Broken (???)
Uncharted! Looks like Drakes Fortune - ported. The trackpad on the back can be used to control Drake in the game.
...
The rest is in my post above.
Last edited by Highlander on 1/27/2011 1:58:10 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:59:34 AM
Even so, it looks and sounds awesome, and I shall have to have one. As for Price? I'm gonna guess $250-$300. Depending on what the PS3 is selling for at the time.
Last edited by Highlander on 1/27/2011 2:01:18 AM
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:02:35 AM
CPU: ARM Corte-A9 core (4 core)
GPU: SGX543MP4+
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:05:08 AM
Coolness
BlueTooth compatibility.
A Microphone too. Excellent.
A quad core CoretexA9 - Perhaps not the Tegra3 I've been talking about, but still a quad core A9 - just like Tegra3. That SGX543MP4+ GPU is no slouch either. Excellent.
Last edited by Highlander on 1/27/2011 2:08:29 AM
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godsman
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:06:48 AM
I don't want any crappy DSi camera resolution.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:25:09 AM
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ABUrabad
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:30:26 AM
and beside that there is just one down point for me since there is no mobile phone support for that , but still this would consider nothing for most others.
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Douchebaguette
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:32:03 PM
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godsman
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:01:13 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:05:42 AM
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I really hope that the NGP would have multiple layers of security so that it would take those damned hackers their entire lifetime to compromise the system. I don't want the NGP to suffer the same fate that the PSP did!
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godsman
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:10:15 AM
I know your frustrations. I don't want to pay games and see others play for free. If I pay... everyone should pay too.
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:30:33 AM
The problem with the PSP is that it was compromised way too early and, whether we would like it or not, a lot of people chose to be cheap. As a result, developers and publishers do not get paid for their work and so they tend to shy away from the system.
I am hoping that a similar scenario would be avoided completely with the NGP. I am sure that Sony had this as one of their biggest considerations for the NGP. I am just hoping that they have a failsafe to turn to.
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HUSO
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:15:58 AM
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Jed
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:05:53 AM
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I knew we would have dual analog, I'm glad they look more like sticks than nubs, and the touch screen was a given (the screen seems kind of big, but don't get me wrong, it sounds good). Touch sensing on the back, I never would have seen that coming.
I'm curious about the "new game media", and what that will be like, and thinking about the price has me scared. Nonetheless, I can't wait to feel what it's like to have the world in my hands. Santa knows what I want for Christmas.
P.S. Think of me screaming for joy as you read this, because that's how I wrote it.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:10:35 AM
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:05:57 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:11:34 AM
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:14:10 AM
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Better come out with something quick. Sony's taken 10 steps ahead and isn't even tempted to look back at its competition.
This is some pretty big news. However, it's not necessarily making me really excited like I know it should... Handhelds have always been a very low secondary when it comes to gaming for me, but maybe this little guy will change that? I'm really hoping so - I need some good portable entertainment.
As for the price? My wallet is already crying for everything else this year. I'd give it a good $400 or more.
Last edited by Gamer Girl Gemo on 1/27/2011 2:17:42 AM
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Pandacastro
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:32:36 AM
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Fane1024
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:43:11 AM
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Yukian
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:48:10 AM
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Lawless SXE
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:44:18 AM
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Fane1024
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:46:02 AM
But no, it's not download-only, as Lawless said.
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Strife
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:04:04 AM
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Shams
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:06:57 AM
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Shams
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:27:27 AM
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HUSO
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:19:14 AM
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kraygen
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:27:11 AM
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That being said, I still can't wait to buy one! I really want games that I can play on my ps3, then load onto my NGP and take it with me.
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:49:12 AM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:49:49 AM
I'm very glad I did now. Seeing all this incredible machine can do, no going back.
If all the PS1 and PSP games I've bought off the PSN work on this thing from day 1, I've already got about 12 games on it!!!
I say Sony should advertise the massive launch library of games on PSN this thing has the moment you turn it on. Biggest launch in history I say.
And judging from the specs, game demos and level of support, I say Sony has learnt their mistakes of the past. Forget the 3DS, NGP IS the future of portable gaming. iPhone and 3DS have nothing on this!!!
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kraygen
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 2:16:26 PM
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johnld
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:45:46 AM
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although the price has to be right for me to get it. i just find it irritating that the newest psp iteration was 50 dollars lower than the ps3 price. if the pspgo was at that price, then i believe the psp2 is going to be around the ps3 price or maybe more. this psp2 better not be another "you'll want to get a second job to get it" or whatever the hell kutaragi stated.
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:52:03 AM
With that said, I do hope that the NGP would not cost $400 at launch. $250 to $300 would be great, though Sony would obviously be bleeding on every unit sold.
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Lawless SXE
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:51:12 AM
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The specs are a marvel though. Sixaxis, dual touch screens and cameras, a microphone, this thing is going to have so many ways to input commands that devs are going to have a hard time finding a balance methinks. Sony have really stepped it up, and more than brought the competition to Nintendo. Portable gaming at its finest.
It only does console quality graphics, a constant connection to the internet through 3G compatability, cross-platform play with the PS3, trophies and don't even get me started on the games.
It only does EVERYTHING... except phone calls :P
Sony, and PSXExtreme, you have truly made my day. I hope my elation will carry through to tomorrow.
Peace and blessings to one and all.
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Culoslap
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:57:36 AM
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A2K78
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:15:10 AM
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Lawless SXE
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 5:06:55 AM
Gravity Daze
Little Deviants
Smart as Broken
There's at least three, and while they may be in pre-existing IPs, there are other titles announced that most certainly will NOT be ports. There's a difference between that and a new iteration in an established franchise.
As for your other comment, again Sony has been turning a small profit on each PS3 sold for a while now. The majority of their profits come from software sales, but Sony won't be stupid enough to make the Codename: NGP over $400USD. Even if it means losing a ton of money for each unit sold, they know it has to priced competitively with the 3DS to have any real impact in the market. Besides, considering much of what is in the unit is still largely young hardware, the development price should drop swiftly enough for Sony to offer a $50 price cut within the first year of release.
'Requiescat in Pace.'
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:40:13 AM
dont be ridiculous!
of course theres going to be ports, but there will be plenty of new games too.
the uncharted and resistance games are totally new games built for the new device.
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A2K78
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:29:36 AM
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Sony is still bleeding from the PS3 and at the moment it clearly doesn't help the fact that a strong yen is already hitting thier profits. With all this in mind, those expecting a platform under $500 is are going to be disappointed. If anything the age of cheap gaming platforms are OVER.
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Underdog15
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:01:00 AM
This sentence is simply not true.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:29:27 AM
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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 12:35:41 AM
Are you joking?
Check your facts....
Sony has already stated that they've made a small profit on each & every single PS3 slim made, ever since it came out last year.
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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 1:02:17 AM
Sony stated that they were only taking a $44 hit on the new Slims when they first came out, but I'm sure they got it whittled down to zero by now.
But even if they are still taking that $44 dollar loss on on the consoles, they've more than made up for it 10-fold with all the games, Home products, PSN, & Plus memberships, etc.
So taking that loss would up to be a very savvy idea indeed on Sony's part.
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Ultimadream
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 5:57:48 AM
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1. Price.... I'm a student.
2. Games, while you mentioned all them games they're all PS3 games, i will want unique games for the system.
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tridon
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:05:17 AM
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tridon
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:07:33 AM
Why can't money trees exist? :(
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TheShadow
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:00:45 AM
But yeah, so much money I need this year and thats not even including psp2, ps3 games this year+ psp2 and games....uh, someone call a doctor NOW, or better yet a money expert.
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FreQaZoiD
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:19:32 AM
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Fane1024
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:19:34 PM
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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 30, 2011 @ 12:40:00 AM
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slugga_status
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:36:14 AM
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swapnilgyani
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:37:02 AM
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Aaaaahh....the preciousssssss!
It's oursssssss, it is....and we wantssssss it
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:49:48 AM
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1. Price
Looking at the tech, I believe Sony may have done something clever and implemented a lot of cheaper parts that when put together make a greater whole. Multi-touch technology has come down quite a lot with the mass production of smartphones, so the front and rear touch pads wouldn't be too expensive.
The processor and GPU/CPU components would certainly be the most expensive, but for portable PS3 graphics, I say it would be worth it. A second analog stick, 3G and wifi built in, not overly expensive.
Altogether I say this piece of high-end tech might run around $349, with a small loss on each unit for Sony in it's first production year. This would make it only $100 more than the 3DS, and with all the extra tech and power within it, I'd say it'd be a smart move on Sony.
2. Games
This will be the biggest battle for Sony.
The 3DS already has a very impressive lineup, with the likes of Resident Evil, Mario Kart 3D, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Starfox 3D, MGS 3 Snake Eater, Street Fighter 3D, Nintendogs + Cats, Professor Llayton, etc. As you can see, nearly all these games are sequels, Nintendo franchise icons or N64 3D ports.
I'm sure that Sony will be able to find a few killer apps for this new gaming platform, and using LBP, Uncharted, Killzone and announcing a CoD on announcment day shows promise.
It is quite clear though that Nintendo has the advantage with many games aimed at children and a huge back catalogue of franchises and games to fall back on for 3DS content. Portable gaming devices are very popular with children, so I think it would be in Sony's best interest to focus on more children's games for the NGP to rival 3DS. Catering to the adult crowd with mature games like Killzone, Uncharted and Call of Duty will do well, but it won't match the King of handhelds.
3. Controls
The 3DS has one analog slider, making FPS' really difficult to play on it. The 3DS has a bottom touch screen which (as far as I know) requires a stylus to use taking up one hand, meaning one less hand to press buttons.
Like the 3DS, the NGP also has 4 face buttons and L+R top triggers or buttons, and a D-pad. But the NGP goes many steps further for ultimate precision.
The NGP has 2 analog sticks like the Dual Shock controller, meaning any game that plays on a console can play on this. FPS' like Call of Duty would work very well on NGP.
The touch pads, both front and rear, are finger-based and don' require a stylus or pen. This makes rapid transition from touching the screen to pressing buttons much faster and much more fluid.
The rear touch pad is where the NGP shines though. Being able to press exactly the point you want on screen but without your fingers being in the way opens up a lot of gaming and on-screen action oppurtunities few touch-screen devices can do well.
4. Tech
Clearly, the NGP is the winner here.
With a much higher RAM, video and data processing power and higher screen resolution than the 3DS, all games will look better.
The 3DS compares itself to the PS2, but the NGP compares itself to the PS3. If you're after a next-gen gaming system with great graphics, NGP is the best option, no argument.
5. Service
The 3DS has wifi support for downloading games and other content. NGP has Wifi service as well, but goes one step further by adding 3G service similar to mobile phones. This means that wherever there is mobile phone service coverage, even if there's no wifi or computer miles around you, you can still play online and download content. Sure, 3G service might cost a little extra, but for constant online connection, it may well be worth it. Depends on how often you'd use it.
Summary:
The NGP is already looking very promising. Price might be the major hurdle for this new device to get over, much like the PS3 when it launched. The number of AAA titles along with their targeted audiences between the 3DS and the NGP will be the major war for supremacy. With Nintendo's long history and back catalogue, it has a huge advantage over Sony, but if Sony continues to focus on increasing the game library as much and as fast as possible, it may put up a good fight. Just increase the number of children's titles, buy a lot more popular children's franchises and market it towards the kids.
Exclusive games may be the big deal breaker here. The 3DS is using a lot of Mario, Zelda and other franchises all available on other Nintendo platforms at one time or another. If the NGP can introduce new and exclusive games for the NGP only, this may persuade many towards it. So far, there are little to no new IPs for the 3DS, only franchises and remakes. The NGP could steal the show in this area if Sony play it right.
Personally, I'm going to wait a year or two after the launch of both 3DS and NGP for either a 2nd gen NGP which is smaller or more affordable, or a 2nd gen 3DS. When both come out, I will observe the library of games for both systems along with the price difference and amount of use I would get out of either system, along with which unit has the strongest library of games that I would get the most entertainment from.
With 8 PS1 games and about a dozen PSP demos and full games stored on my PS3, the NGP already has a big advantage in my eyes.
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sha4dowknight05
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:33:33 AM
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:15:28 AM
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 12:05:18 PM
Sony can't be arrogant about this because the 3DS is going to be on a selling spree and have a lot of momentum.
If the PSP2 is secure this time around - and Sony calculate they will be making more money from their full price game offerings than before, with a higher sell through rate; they may feel they can "subsidize" the hardware to some degree and sell it at a very competitive price.
Can't discount competition from Apple and Nintendo... these competitors will keep Sony honest...
Yes, I love life ...and competition... power to the consumer...
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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airwedge1
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:52:39 AM
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:34:42 AM
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:33:03 AM
"Software titles on small, dedicated flash memory-based cards"
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:34:01 PM
http://bit.ly/eBndjY
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Looking Glass
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:58:12 AM
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matt99
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 8:54:45 AM
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Also maybe the CoD that's supposedly coming for the NGP is the one sledgehammer was working on?
And Uncharted? I'm sold.
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:33:47 AM
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That's intense.
I'm glad Sony is sticking to the premium end of consumer entertainment with a gamer focus by offering bleeding edge technology that no one else is trying to compete with.
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Shams
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:53:22 AM
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Temjin001
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:47:08 AM
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Robochic
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:56:32 AM
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I'd buy it but I'm buying my son the new nintendo 3ds in march. My son says he loves basic games only on the dsi and he only plays amazing games on his ps3 oh did I say he's six
For this I know I've been holding off for a reason for a new psp, thanks Sony :)
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:05:00 AM
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:11:07 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:12:07 AM
It's not a feature, but it's something that can be done by the NGP. The game should support having a portable version or an optional part of the game that you can install on the NGP and play while you're on the go. It's an excellent idea, in my opinion, but it's not something that would be supported out of the box by the hardware alone.
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Amazingskillz
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:27:46 AM
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1. Can you access Playstation Home on it?
2. Can you stream Vudu and Netflix?
3. What form do new games come on. Are they download only?
4. What about Skype?
5. I have no interest in playing old games that I've beaten on it such as Uncharted etc. What new games are coming out.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:04:52 AM
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:26:21 AM
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 12:09:21 PM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Scarecrow
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:32:09 AM
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PSN games playable on this (hopefully) YES!
Regardless of what games come out for it, I must get this.
jrpgs on this is a pure guarantee, even if just imports.
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Fane1024
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:29:31 PM
Talk about an amazing launch line-up.
It would also greatly affect how much I would be willing to pay for it, because I wouldn't have to buy any games for it at launch.
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Amazingskillz
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:33:52 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:56:51 AM
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A2K78
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:36:26 AM
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This sentence is simply not true."
The only thing Sony have managed to do in terms of the PS3's profitability is lessen the loss they are taken with the console, but when you look beyond the corporate spin they are still loosing money from the console.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:54:34 AM
The console itself breaks even, and when you include the revenue generated by games and accessories (which is an integral part of the business model of the PS3, as it was for the PSP, PS2 and PS1) the PS3 is actually profitable right now. It hasn't wiped the ledger clean of the cost of development yet, but considering that it was also the driver behind BluRay and much of the HD adoption we've seen. Sony has seen a decent return on their investment. Your problem is that the facts don't match your attitude, but you're unwilling to see or admit that.
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Underdog15
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 3:02:57 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:45:43 AM
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The Quad core CortexA9 CPU is 4 ARM cores, ARM is a very high performance, very low power consumption processor. Apparently the one inside the NGP/PSP2 is theoretically capable of up to 2GHz, but is likely clocked lower than that. These processors can dynamically change their clock to much lower clock speeds when the system load is light to save power.
There are a few quad core A9 designs around, but not really in mass production yet. Texas instruments makes a product called the OMAP4440, which is a dual core A9 at 1.5GHz with a single PowerVR SGX540 GPU core embedded within it. The OMAP4440 is the top of the range in TI's line of A9 based System on a Chips. The NGP/PSP2 is clearly a lot more powerful than that.
The PowerVR SGX543MP4+ is a 4 core multi-processor version of the PowerVR SGX540. The basic GPU core is a good one, but there are several really nice features for a mobile device. It uses very little power, the performance of the multi-core versions scales linearly with the number of cores, in other words 4 cores really are 4 times faster than one. This is not just a GPU, it's a GP-GPU (General Purpose Graphics Processing Unit), in other words, it's capable of being more than simply a graphics processor. I'd love to see how that shakes out in the design of games. Lastly, the SGX543MP4+ can dynamically allocate it's resources as required, so maximum performance or the minimum power is always maintained.
So, you have a system with 4 ARM A9 cores running with a quad core GP-GPU. The clock speeds will vary dynamically as needed by games, and Sony may well have a software limiter to maintain battery life. This may not be a 3.2GHz 8 core CellBE with a desktop GPU, but it's definitely an 8 core system with power to spare. Considering that games on it will run at about half 720p resolution, or a quarter of 1080p resolution, the processor/GPU needs scale pretty well from a PS3. That's not to say that the NGP is as powerful as a PS3 in terms of sheer computing power. But for the size and resolution of the screen, it pretty much is as powerful as a PS3. Think of it in terms of a large family car with a big engine and a small, light sports car. Both cars might have the same top speed, but that family car can hit 140MPH fully loaded with 5 passengers and their luggage. The sports car can't carry that much of a load, and if you do manage to load it with 5 passengers and their luggage, it certainly won't hit 140MPH. But with two passengers and their bags, it hits 140 with no problem.
That's how I would describe the relationship between the NGP and the PS3. The PS3 is fundamentally more powerful, but the NGP can manage the same kinds of things that the PS3 can, but at a lower resolution.
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Qubex
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 12:08:31 PM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Scarecrow
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 12:42:34 PM
Neo..........CORTEX
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t4_robz
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:49:31 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:56:12 AM
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:57:47 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/
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city96
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:54:17 AM
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This sets the bar for handhelds. Even Iphone4 and all those androids don't have quad cores. Hell , they don't have dual cores
The new PS Store Android Market thing sounds cool.
BUT what will happen to my PSP 1000 :(
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:56:49 PM
With this tech coming out, Sony is supporting PSP through downloadable software but no longer supporting UMD, which I think is a good idea.
With about 80% of PSP games on the PSN, there's really no need to hang on to the old fella. Flash card based games is a stroke of genius and completely scraps the idea of disc-based media, which brings down some costs even further.
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:00:41 AM
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:02:21 AM
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TheShadow
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:16:54 AM
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2011: Ps3 LONG list of exclusive titles+ multiplats (I get more Exclusives then multiplats)+ Psp2 at about 250-350 price (more around 300 I think)+ games.....AAAAAAH, why sony why.
WHY. Damm sony is going to rob me blind and I won't even know it, you buy one game or two a month+ psp2 and games and by the end of the year your broke.
I'm still thinking of getting a portable because I not sure if im interested That much in it, I mean it looks cool, and games are sweet but the screen being small is A big NO-No for me, even if I don't get it, Sony delivers, Oh! and anybody getting the psp2 and buying a lot of games for ps3 this year I have 5 words for ya:
You better rob a bank.
Just kidding but yeah Sony delivers wether portably or at home. I hope anybody who gets the psp2 make sure to do a review for me.
Ps. See ya I'm going to go smack some helghast in Home see ya there.
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:07:49 PM
If you can play PS3 on standard def TV, than there is no excuse in regards to screen size or detail when playing the NGP.
BTW, the more I read about this thing, the more I want it. This is a major game changer for Sony. Only thing I'm hoping is that it's hack proof for a good many years. Pirates killed the PSP, and I certainly hope they don't kill this thing.
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TheShadow
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:29:57 PM
I used to have a DS and It hurt to look at it for a while, and it really hurt my head as well.
thats pretty much it, the portable is looking sweet though
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Simcoe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 12:11:33 PM
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Top covered ports could be for sd/memory stick or new flash memory-based card. Covered bottom one for...charging? Or would charging be via other exposed port?
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 12:20:58 PM
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 4:35:30 PM
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:11:22 PM
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:25:10 PM
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:52:13 PM
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StangMan80
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 6:22:38 PM
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big selling point having Uncharted on the PSP2 and it should be the same version as the PS3 one, just different controls.
price, will not be over $250, if so, big mistake
The 3DS is at $250. and the only "new" thing about that is it now has 3D. SOny needs to get the price right, find the sweet spot for it sony like you did with the PS3 but only this time on Launce.
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Douchebaguette
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 7:44:50 PM
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Too bad I also need a phone. If only the NPG had a SIM insert. The Xperia Play is looking alot less desirable now [even though the two aren't really comparible] =\. I reckon more people wanted a PSP with a phone, not a phone with a PSP. Ah well. I could get a contract. Or get over the smartphone craze & buy a practical phone for the sake of actually ringing & texting folks necessarily.
The 3DS may have a hard time xD.
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Rogueagent01
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:53:14 PM
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The only mistep I can see Sony making now is the purchase price. I think $300 would be reasonable.
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:42:26 AM
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there go my hopes of syphon filter coming back to the ps3.
come on sony, for crying out loud, stop wasting sony bends time on stupid portable games and let them play with the big boys!
biggest waste of a studios talent since M$ bought rare and put them to work on that kinect game!
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Ninja_WafflesXD
Friday, February 04, 2011 @ 12:11:34 PM
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I wasn't really interested in the psp-go but this new handheld literally has me drooling (no joke).
I haven't been this excited since the PS3 launched....Ah, Sony is just too good :)
Only hope that they get the price right....I'm still just a student XP
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 1:04:07 AM