Sony Explains Why The NGP Won't Feature 3D
NGPNow that Sony has upped the ante with the Next Generation Portable, many wonder if it might offer 3D functionality...thereby dealing a specific blow to the competition (the Nintendo 3DS).
However, while Sony continues to promote 3D technology, they have stated that 3D just "just isn't right" for portable devices. Sony Computer Entertainment Europe boss Andrew House spoke about why Sony decided to omit 3D for the NGP, and he said they see 3D as being centered in the home, around the television in the living room. In other words, they see it as a "shared experience" and that really can't happen with a handheld. Added House:
"In the development process, we had studied the possibility of introducing stereoscopic 3D feature to NGP, but decided not to install it. After careful consideration of our goal of offering users the ultimate portable entertainment experience with a revolutionary user interface we have decided to focus on the features and specs announced today first.
SCE will continue to play an important role within Sony group by promoting 3D in tandem with Sony Corporation's 3D compatible BRAVIA LCD TVs to deliver the sublime 3D entertainment in the living room and without having to go to the cinema. We will continue our effort to provide users with true 3D entertainment experience that only Sony can deliver."
So the 3DS will still have one major feature the NGP will not have, but if you hadn't noticed, Sony's new portable is quite advanced in a number of different areas. House believes those other features will stand out in contrast, and they are "confident" they have something special. Finished House:
"We feel very confident that we have very sufficiently differentiated ourselves from the competition with spec, and in particular the connectivity and network features and interfaces that are all pretty revolutionary. That will set this device apart."
Tags: psp2, ngp, next generation portable, ngp 3d
1/27/2011 8:44:59 PM Ben Dutka
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:31:18 PM
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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:41:44 PM
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http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2011/01/post_4.html
A great article/ letter that Ebert received on this topic from a well respected editor in the industry. Basically the principles behind what 3d forces our brains to do gives it troubles in the technology which will never be able to be overcome.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:06:05 PM
To me, the 3DS is like one of those old Viewmaster toys that let you look at supposedly 3D images. They were popular for a while, but not so much now. Viewmasters were just a gimmicky toy, nothing more. I think that the 3DS risks that fate.
The worst thing for the DS is either the fact that they have to warn consumers not to let children 6 years and younger use the 3DS, and the battery life is pretty terrible.
By avoiding the gimmick of 3D, I think Sony is producing a far more mainstream and integrated device. With the 3DS, the entire experience is predicated on the 3D optical filter. It's a one trick pony.
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:04:52 AM
your forgetting one thing though, the 3Ds is not relying on 3D to sell it.
its BC with other DS games, so when the masses wake up and smell the beans they can still use the device to play normal DS games.
unlike the wii, i cant see this dying down.
the wii had a fad, and no backup, once the novelty of motion controls died off that was it the system offers nothing.
3Ds however still has the advantage of being able to play all the DS games kids love, cant understand how these people can play the same game over and over and over again but they cant lap enough of it up!
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:39:18 AM
Playing DS games? Isn't that a bit like saying the PS3 could have survived on PS2 backwards compatibility? Seriously though, why would anyone pay for a 3DS only to play DS games when they can buy a perfectly good DS for less than half the cost? I think you're missing the point here. the 3DS exists to do one thing, play in 3D in a handheld format.
It's a gimmick, and an expensive one at that.
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Looking Glass
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 7:03:16 AM
If the NGP is going to be a success then I believe that a strong lineup of exclusive launch titles is probably going to be a necessity.
Last edited by Looking Glass on 1/28/2011 7:04:46 AM
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 8:44:35 AM
no, simply because as ive stated many times sony and ninty cater to different crowds.
people buy a ps3 to enjoy the enhanced graphics it offers over the ps2, yes theres other reasons but thats the main one.
nintys crowd do not care about graphics, which is why there games tend to be way more fun!
the developers are not all heffed up on making the game look so good, so they have more time making sure the games not repetitive and boring.
3D on the 3Ds is most definitely a fad, but when the fad wears off your still left with a system which can play both new and old games.
the price difference is not much either, here the 3Ds is only 50 bucks more than the DS.
so why save the extra 50 bucks when you can enjoy the 3D fad for a few months?
if it was a 100 bucks or more than ok, but 50 bucks?
that wont even buy you 1 game!
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Looking Glass
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 9:00:03 AM
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:09:58 AM
Since you give us no name to call you by, we call you whatever we want, I've called you this pretty consistently since whenever. You are anonymous, and for all we know you do herd cows. But if you want to start that kind of stupid name calling stuff, go for it, I'm not going to bother reciprocating. Your own record of posts here is sufficient reply to your name calling.
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Simcoe
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 11:25:00 AM
I do believe kids will be bugging their parents for the newest DS system (in 3D!) so they can play the 10 new 3D Pokemon games that will come out this year. Plus it will be quite convenient that they will still be able to play all their old DS Pokemon titles too. Now it may not be this year, or next, but those kids will have their 3DS. I agree that the 3D in 3DS, like Kinect, is quite gimmicky and Nintendo's target audience (kids and non-gamers) will soak it up.
Whether or not it's a fad or gimmick is irrelevant in the business world, as long as they can make a buck (the faster the better) they'll do it.
Regarding your viewmaster example, I don't believe that they guy who invented the Viewmaster back in the 30's ever sat in the poor house after it was released? How many decades, with very little design change, did his gimmick last? He had a good product and brought awesome content to his device.
The reason why people will buy a 3DS is the same reason why people buy a new iPhone every one or two years: they change one or two things. Seems that people today, are perfectly content with throwing away something that is only a few years old, even though it still works perfectly fine.
/rant
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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:43:53 PM
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StangMan80
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:47:12 PM
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The NGP has a tone of features, it is epic! even the next "DS" wont be able to do what this bad boy can do.
oh yeah by the way, NGP actually means 'Nintendo, Got, Pawned'
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Snaaaake
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:57:31 PM
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NGP may be better in every single way but the uninformed will think that the 3DS is better just because it has 3D.
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PasteNuggs
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:15:28 PM
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fstop
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:24:19 PM
Much like MS fans arguing with Sony fans...
We have Halo.
So? Have you seen or played Killzone 2?
We have Perfect Dark Now.
Nintendo had it years ago. Lets move on.
Alan Wake?
HA! Flashlights.
Gears of...
Just STOP already!
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:09:14 PM
3D on a handheld is a distraction.
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Snaaaake
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:17:21 PM
If we're talking about sales, obviously the 3DS has 3D driving it.
People will go like," OOOH! 3D! SCREW NGP!"
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kevinater321
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 11:24:55 AM
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BigBoss4ever
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:14:23 PM
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Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 1/27/2011 10:16:42 PM
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fstop
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:16:57 PM
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3D can sit by the way side until it's "truly" perfected.
I'm a patient man, I waited this long for the next true PSP I can wait for better 3D another 5 or so years. 3D TV's on the other hand...I will be picking up one of those puppies come Christmas this year when I build the ultimate gamers room in my basement.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:35:32 PM
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Talk about your headaches.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:13:12 PM
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daus26
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 7:08:21 AM
I think 3D is quick-fix type of entertainment. Not sure if it it'll create headaches, but I can't imagine myself using 3D for an extended period of time.
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:31:22 AM
Personally, I feel that is more than enough reason for not including 3D technology on a hand held game console that may in fact be used by kids of 6 years or younger.
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Simcoe
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:45:24 AM
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 12:51:28 PM
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Scarecrow
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 10:52:38 PM
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I'm good with games that look almost as good as ps3 games, trust me lol.
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:07:33 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 11:12:20 PM
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Instead of investing time and money trying to make that technology acceptable, I'm glad Sony instead chose to work on making the devices primary capabilities as robust as possible. Processor, GPU, screen, storage, memory, controls. 3D is a technology that is still in the development stage. When I hear about the 3Ds, I am reminded more and more of the Viewmaster 3D slide viewers.
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RadioHeader
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 6:30:52 AM
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daus26
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 6:54:42 AM
Highlander, I think it's subjective on whether or not 3D would go great for handheld gaming, but if it has narrow viewing angles for optimum 3D effects like you say, it would certainly make me NOT interested in such technology at the moment.
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:29:10 AM
The 3D in the DS has a very narrow viewing angle and a very specific sweet-spot. I believe that you can manually adjust the depth of the 3D to adjust the location of the sweet-spot, but the 3D illusion is very susceptible to the viewer's position. Moving side to side or backwards/forwards disrupts the effect completely, which can be disorienting.
Nintendo uses a liquid crystal parallax barrier that slightly alters the direction of the light from each pixel so that each eye of the viewer sees a different viewpoint. That kind of technology is fine and good, but it does create very specific points of view that work. If you are not in that point of view, it just doesn't.
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JonahFalcon
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 12:31:57 AM
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:12:52 AM
you can net a 3D bravia for 1900 depending which model and size you want.
i got the HX800 which is their top of the line model, only under the LX900 which are really pricey!
46inch and it only cost me 1900 bucks at JBHIFI, i reckon if i shopped around more i could of got it cheaper, but it was chrissy eave and the shops were chokers so i did not want to stand in line for another hour to get served!
the glasses are not 400 either, there only 80 bucks each.
if you bought it before chrissy you even got the redemption bundle which came with 2 pairs of glasses, a transmitter, 2 3D movies, a PSN voucher for a few 3D games, a ps3 and a 3D demonstration video.
not bad for 1900 bucks!!!!!
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 8:49:14 AM
well, actually i better straighten a few things out.
all the complaints nailed at the 3Ds 3D effects can more or less be fired at the ps3 too.
like the angle, if you tilt your head slightly the screen goes blurry like if you did not have the glasses on.
apparently thats got to do with the LED screens, apparently plasmas dont suffer from that.
so just like the 3Ds, you need to sit in the center of the screen, and keep straight otherwise the effect will be distorted and soon you will start blowing chunks.
motorstorm 3D rift seriously gives me a headache while playing that, tis why i stopped playing it.
biggest waste of 20+ bucks ever!!!!!
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coverton341
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 12:14:24 PM
"56 inch large enough?"-You(yesterday in the Dead Space 2 review)
Now it's 46 inches? I sir call shenanigans. SHENANIGANS!!!
You at least seem like you are trying to spread less rampant crap and be civil but when you post two entirely opposing things from one day to the next I just can't take you seriously.
And before you go off and say "WHAT! I CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!", no, no you can't. At least not given the fact that time and again you come on here talking about how you're in university and can't afford to pay these outrageous prices for games because you don't have the money.
If you are going to make things up, be consistent. Or, you could always just sit back and relax and not post so much crap.
Last edited by coverton341 on 1/28/2011 12:14:50 PM
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___________
Saturday, January 29, 2011 @ 8:00:57 AM
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AcHiLLiA
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 12:50:26 AM
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Shadow_Ninja
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 1:53:00 AM
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 3:57:48 AM
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:09:16 AM
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you cant do glasses free 3D well ATM, the way the 3Ds uses it if you tilt your head slightly you loose the effect.
you cant have a friend looking at your game unless you want his or her lunch on your lap!
just seems impractical, once we have glasses free 3D where you can sit wherever you want, at whatever angle you want and get the proper effect without feeling sick than ok, but till then its pointless.
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RadioHeader
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 6:27:32 AM
I don't know what's happening to you, _______________, but I like it.
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___________
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 8:45:05 AM
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Looking Glass
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 9:11:14 AM
The "as usual" part would also seem to be a point of contention here.
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sonic1899
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 11:15:44 AM
That comment itself is strange
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PorkChopGamer
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 2:56:41 AM
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 3:58:28 AM
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daus26
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 6:36:03 AM
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:13:40 AM
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Simcoe
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:55:23 AM
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Highlander
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 12:52:43 PM
I'm thinking that all the bluster from Sony was face saving at a time of litigation. The lawsuit was pretty ridiculous, but then so many patent disputes are. Either way, Sony never directly discusses such matters and deflects questions.
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Mamills
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 5:38:09 AM
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i bet the 3DS annihilates this thing in terms of sales.
i mean i like this PSP2, but i mean there is only so far you can push the graphical power. i bet the only reason they didnt go with 3d for it was because they couldnt get it to work properly without the glasses. so they take the powerhouse route, (Which is awesome). but lets face it, its not about graphics anymore.
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daus26
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 7:01:11 AM
About annihilation in sales, I think it'll depend on the NGP's price. I always thought that the DS outsold the PSP considerably like the Wii did to the PS3 because of its price difference in the early days. If the NGP's price is close to the 3DS, I don't think the 3DS would annilihilate the NGP in sales, considering that the only real advantage it has over the NGP is 3D. If it does, it would be because of its legendary franchises because everyone buys Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda games.
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Mamills
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:35:50 AM
in today's world, the hardcore is the minority (Sadly) and casual stuff (Junkware) will win out the sales. These retards out there (Casual Audience if you want to be politically correct) go for anything flashy and well, seeing a character pop off screen will win them over much more than all the tech this thing has.
That being said, i agree with you. if i was a portable guy i would want to go with the PSP2 and thus the reason i'm a PlayStation gamer.
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Simcoe
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 11:09:05 AM
Sony has always targeted the core gamer, and we are in the minority. Plus Sony always steps up to bring the leading edge stuff to the market, PS1 (3D graphics never before seen), PS2 (DVD player), PSP (portable gaming, internet and media player) and the PS3 (network media player, Blu-ray player, computing powerhouse). So it's not surprise that the NGP would be at the forefront of computer entertainment.
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Zorigo
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 6:52:06 AM
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Amazingskillz
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 9:06:17 AM
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3D is an important link in that chain. Figure out the future and you can figure out 3D's place in that future.
Last edited by Amazingskillz on 1/28/2011 9:08:21 AM
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Looking Glass
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 9:17:15 AM
I myself am not sure one way or the other. But I guess there's no need to wonder about it. We need only wait and see what happens when the 3DS arrives.
Last edited by Looking Glass on 1/28/2011 9:19:28 AM
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Mamills
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 10:38:14 AM
i mean the old-school folks would hate it, but their opinion doesn't matter. keep moving forward, cant go back.
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Simcoe
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 11:15:00 AM
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Looking Glass
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 3:02:28 PM
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TheShadow
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 11:40:18 AM
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BTNwarrior
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 12:36:18 PM
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JDC80
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 9:10:06 PM
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As for me I'm going to live the dream of playing "Uncharted" while sitting on the toilet with the NGP.
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Robochic
Saturday, January 29, 2011 @ 8:45:13 AM
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For the NGP I really can't wait for it, it's going to be so much fun I've been waiting 2 years now for a new handheld from sony and I'm glad I didn't get the pspgo this past boxing day now I can preorder this and pay for it slowly :) can't wait to see more line up for this system, UC is going to be great :)
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Lairfan
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Thursday, January 27, 2011 @ 9:24:22 PM