Hirai: PlayStation Vita Will Not Launch In US This Year

Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:47:57 AM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I wanted my vita this yearrrrrr damn you Microsofttttttttttt

Last edited by Cesar_ser_4 on 8/4/2011 10:49:50 AM

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 10:54:29 AM

I just have to ask...what does Microsoft have to do with this?

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Cpt_Geez
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:05:02 AM

I wanted the vita this year too but with all the games coming out in November im cool on it coming out next year. Its way too many games coming out in the 4th quarter.

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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:09:15 AM

@Mr. Dutka
Nothing, just felt like blaming someone. But hey since you guys are tight with Sony. Maybe you can sneak us some units for a giveaway this year???

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:22:38 AM

Blame Canada, that always works...

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Beamboom
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:40:06 AM

LOL!!

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:41:00 AM

What, no blaming Nintendo this time? ;)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:41:28 PM

Heh...we wouldn't get it too long before retailers. But you never know.

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gumbi
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:36:44 PM

@Highlander... Hah!

With our beady little eyes, and flapping heads so full of lies!

I swear buddy, it's not our fault eh.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:03:34 PM

I'll blame Nintendo... somehow.

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:12:55 PM

Gumbi,

Indeed, Canada-ians and their foreign ways. I guess I could have been more specific and blamed Quebec but I value my life...

;)

.

.

Note: I AM joking about Canada and Quebec.

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Underdog15
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 8:37:32 PM

We Canadian's don't mind taking blame. We take everything that's awful about America and make it awesome.

No healthcare? Take it to Canada, and ***AWESOMED*** you got health care. Shitty housing market? Take it to Canada, and ***AWESOMED*** you got a solid economy. Got watery beer? take it to Canada and ***AWESOMED*** well... we just know how to drink... and we drink quality... so.... ***AWESOMED*** Having a hard time getting fans out to your NHL game? Phoenix Coyotes "don't buy a ticket night" another HUGE success? Take it to Canada, and ***AWESOMED***. Sarah Palin doin' weird shit down there? Take her to Canada and ***AWESOMED*** we feed her to a polar bear. Tea Party pissing you off? Take it to Tim Hortons and ***AWESOMED*** we'll caffinate some sense into that sh!t in no time.

See? Canada... solving the south's problems since 1867!

Last edited by Underdog15 on 8/4/2011 8:39:12 PM

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Jawknee
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:17:41 PM

Waiting 6 months to see a specialist is anything but awesome.

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Highlander
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 8:50:03 PM

Yeah Jaw, that's tight. My Mother in law agrees completely She hates it and wishes she could go somewhere else...like Canada, she lives in Tennessee and hates having to wait for specialists. Just another of the Joys of TennCare...

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:04:32 AM
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i think it is a mistake to let nintendo go unchallenged this holiday season in a region where the sony brand has struggled.

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GuyverLT
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:28:30 AM

Not really dude you have to look at all the games coming out for the consoles this holiday season, think about how much money people will be throwing around for games like Uncharted 3, MW3, BF3, BatmanAC, Resistance3, Gears3, Forza4, and more. They're aren't to many people out there that can afford more than two of these games let alone all these games AND then get the PSVita on top of it, some may be able to but most won't, it's just unrealistic to think that can happen. I'd say they did they right thing by waiting until sometime next year when they have a STRONGER line-up of launch titles.

Last edited by GuyverLT on 8/4/2011 11:28:52 AM

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:41:23 AM

Debbie Downer Strikes again.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:09:49 PM

that is just great . on a site where 99.9% of the people are mature. we have one person that goes around calling me names everytime i express an opinion. it's totally uncalled for. all i was saying is wish sony had a system to challenge nintendo this holiday season becuase i think nintendo is vulnerable now. i don't see what is so down about that.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:41:06 PM

Why the hell does it matter so much? First place this and first place that...Who CARES?! They are different systems, catering to different markets. Why can't you just gave fun with games instead of worrying about who's in first place all the damn time? It's trivial nonsense. They are both great and successful companies. I wish success for BOTH! You whine about Sony always being behind, as if it's the end all be all if Sony. Give me a break Debbie.

And you wonder why I pick on you?

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:47:51 PM

i never said it mattered so much. if i am debbie downer then you are n4g nutcase. please stop picking on me. i am asking nicely as a mature member of psxe. at least stop with the snide disrespectful name calling and stalking please.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:59:42 PM

Not stalking, when you make nonsensical comments on a site where anyone can reply, don't act so surprised, or claim victimhood when you get called out.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:10:20 PM

what's sad is it is one person calling me out, and being disrespectful. you. i asked nicely more than for you stop calling me names and picking on me. you won't so from now on you are n4g nutcase to me.

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Temjin001
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:52:40 PM

Little Debbie golden delights are my favorite =p

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:08:16 PM

LOL! Me too. They are nice and sweet, unlike bitter and petulant Debbie Downers.

XD

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Temjin001
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:10:50 PM

Excelsior, text chat 101,
Don't let personal attacks keep you on the defensive. Choosing to block the jab wastes precious energy. Instead, absorb the remark with a comment that makes lite of the insult then redirect and reposition the debate with a more carefully planned rebuttal ;)
Gotta shift the momentum! Jawknee is winding u on the easy stuff =p

Go get em champ!

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:20:26 PM

Well that's easy for you Temji, you actually bring substance. Your comments are a joy to read 99% of the time. Excelsior just whines then plays the victim when I call him out on his whining and it's always the same stuff! It's predictable at this point. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but how many times must we read the same opinion over and over before anyone is allowed to ask if they have anything new to say? Just askin...;)

Internet banter aside, if I really wanted to insult him or hurt his feelings there is a lot worse things that could be said than Debbie Downer. Hell, my friends and I give one another a much harder time when we disagree. I'm playing softball right now.

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Beamboom
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:35:28 PM

Why do you behave like that, Jawk? He's clearly uncomfortable with your disrespectful behaviour. Why not just stop when you see that. What do you gain from keep going like this? You want to see tears? Would that be a victory to you?

Do you think that you entertain the rest of us? Is that what motivates you? Do you think you add something valuable to this comment field? Do you think we should all behave like you do? Is this how you would prefer to be treated?

Or do you just not care? Thinking it aint your problem anyways, noone is treating you bad so why should you care how he feel?
After all, he's not... You?

Last edited by Beamboom on 8/4/2011 2:39:11 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:45:35 PM

Oh coming from you, that is grand. LOL!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:04:48 PM

Politics! - More comfortable than this.

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SayWord
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:29:47 PM

Lmao! Jawknee your the best man. Who gets offended by being called a debbie downer? Hahah

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Temjin001
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:58:34 PM

Thanks, Jawk ;)

Beamboom, While I think much of what you said has significance, I don't think PSXe is necessarily a Kinder Care where we all gotta be pampered and stuff. We're dudes who spend time here because we like playing games. I don't think this casual talk should be taken too seriously. Which includes, and Is not limited to, calling someone Debbie Downer =)

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 4:14:43 PM

I use to know a girl named Debbie...

...I wouldn't necessarily call her a downer

=>.>=

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 6:46:13 PM

Jawk & I had some great times back in my early PSX days...

Ahhh good times, good times.

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Beamboom
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 6:12:41 AM

@Temjin, no we are no kinder care but there wasn't much that was adult about that behaviour.
When someone so *clearly* express uncomfort, regardless of it being reasonable or not, then I'd call it normal adult behaviour to stop and not just go on and on and on! Why behave like that? What's wrong with showing some empathy?

Last edited by Beamboom on 8/5/2011 6:20:00 AM

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:23:37 AM
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Ah Ben, you must have got the press release from Sony or something. I saw this coming up on the news trackers and just emailed yo a tip on this.

Well, sad news for anyone waiting to buy this thing. I wanted it before 2012!

Reading between the lines, does it sound to you like they are dela...er...timing the launch to ensure that the launch games are ready?

Last edited by Highlander on 8/4/2011 11:24:38 AM

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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:28:05 AM

Yeah me too, I just didn't want to believe it... but I'd much rather have the certainty that I will get it next year than to have a "limited launch" this year.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:35:54 AM

sounds like a delay to me despite what they are saying. now the 3ds can benefit with a price cut, and going unchallenged this holiday season. it's a shame too becuase i sensed nintendo was vulnerable. this just gives them more time to bolster the 3ds lineup. nintendo is thrilled to hear this.

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:39:07 AM

Excelsior, just like the PSP and DS, or the PS3 and the Wii, I don't believe that the 3Ds and PS Vita are aimed at the same markets. There is some overlap for sure, but the devices are really aimed at complimentary rather than competing markets and demographics.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:53:42 AM

How is this a delay when they never announced an official release date to begin with Debbie D.?

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:54:52 AM

@highlander

that may be trure, but i thought sony had a real oppurtunity to cut into nintendo's marketshare here. the 3ds has struggled. maybe, some of the gamers that were not very excited by 3ds at first would have considerd a vita. the devices are both handheld gaming machines so i do consider them direct competitiors even though nintendo targets a younger demographic. i do not think the ps3 and wii analogy is valid since the controls on those machines were so different. nintendo really created it's own market there. so yeah ps3 and wii not really direct competitors. i think the 3ds and vita are even if nintendo tends to get the younger demographic.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:58:20 AM

@jawk

stop it with the stupid name calling and grow up. notice that highlander implied delay there too. i never said delay. i said it sounds like one.

Last edited by Excelsior1 on 8/4/2011 12:02:09 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:09:27 PM

Relax Debbie. Sony never said it was coming out this year, doesn't "sound" like a delay at all. That's just your Negative Nancy kicking in. Breathe, the sun will rise tomorrow, Sony will sell more PS3's and the Vita will be out next year. Calm the Debbie Downer inside your heart. All is well. ;)

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:12:32 PM

stop calling me debbie. it is immature and uncalled for. calm the snide immature name calling in your heart and grow the hell up. what a bunch of childish comments that are better suited for n4g forums than the psxe community. i've got some insanse stalker following me around calling me names. no one else does that here.

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:15:43 PM

Excelsior,

That opportunity still exists, the 3DS as a product hasn't changed because of it's price drop. There maybe more games available (for 3DS when Vita launches), but the product hasn't been a roaring success. Even if it's sales begin to recover with the price cut, that's driven by the price cut and not the product at this stage in it's life.

The key things for Vita were/are price and software. Vita has a very good price - especially when considering what you get for your money. This finalization of the launch to early 2012 in NA and EU appears to me to allow the line up of games to solidify too, so at launch vita will have both of the things it needs to succeed - a good price, and good software.

The placing of the Vita in early 2012 in NA and EU does two other things of note. First of all, there's no way we will see a PS4 during 2012 unless it's a really early prototype with no chance of launch until 2013 a the earliest. 2012 belongs to Vita. Secondly, I honestly don't think that Sony will cut the price of the PS3 to $249 or less until Vita has launched and had at very least a full quarter. If they did, it would clearly invite unfavorable price comparisons between PS3 and Vita, which I am certain Sony does not want.

I think we'll see the Vita drop in early 2012 at $2490, and then at E3, the Vita will drop to $199.99 and $249.99 (3G version), and the PS3 will drop to $249.99 then. At least that's my expectation because I don't think that anyone seriously wants to have a mobile console selling for the same as the full home console, and even though Sony were expected to drop their price this year to $249.99, they may hold back until E3, and in the meantime rely on increased bundling to maintain the SKU price while offering greater value.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:30:04 PM

LOL!

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:35:47 PM

please note that highlander gives an intelligent response well suited for the psxe communtity. jawk just does a bunch of childish name calling. he must be a n4g member. i guess i could retrurn the favor and call him n4g nut, but that would not be represtentive of the psxe community.
if i am debbie then jawk is n4g nutcase.

Last edited by Excelsior1 on 8/4/2011 12:40:43 PM

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:37:53 PM

The more attention you give, the more they do. I'm only sayin. :O

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:42:10 PM

No press release but I caught the AP article.

Thanks, though.

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Eld
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:45:51 PM

I wonder, could this make it easier for MS to plan new xbox launch?

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:55:41 PM

@claire

it's not they. it is one n4g nutcase following me around. i have had enough of it. debbie downer sounds like something from a charlie brown episode. it is clidish and very disrespecetful.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:02:38 PM

Shows how much you know. The Peanuts was written for grown ups and featured in the Sunday news paper. So I take that as a compliment.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:06:34 PM

a n4g nutcase would take that as a compliment. there nothing adult about going around calling people name. please grow up.

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SayWord
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:38:18 PM

Hey debbie d where's your sense of humor? Too down to have one? :P

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 5:56:52 PM

@say word

i pobably am. i usually do have a sense humour, though. i was not the only one on this thread who said they thought not releasing this yr was a mistake btw. oh yeah, i am thrilled jawk and i have worked out a truce. there will be no more name calling between us. debbie is kind of a sore spot for me as my aunt debbie died last week from cancer. don't like being called that. thank you.

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Underdog15
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 8:43:22 PM

I just had an epiphany!

Shut the flip up, guys.

FYI, Excelsior, Debbie Downer has been a phrase for a long-ass time. So has the title, "Debbie Does Dallas". No one is comparing either of these to your late aunt. (And if true, then condolences)

Last edited by Underdog15 on 8/4/2011 8:44:59 PM

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Beamboom
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:43:02 AM
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Frankly, this is fine with me. I would not have had the cash to buy it this year anyway. Now I can buy a couple more games instead. Great! :)

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:43:55 AM
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Bummer. Looks like I'll be getting a 3DS first then after they drop the price in August. I think Kaz is right though. Best to have a great line up of launch games. The 3DS didn't do so well in that regard.

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:22:24 PM

So you plan on playing... one game???

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:27:58 PM

Yuuuup! There will be more to come. I was planning on getting one anyway. There's a new StarFox in the works and a new Zelda will be out for it at some point. Plus there a plethora of Gameboy Advanced games I wish to play once they become available for download.

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:29:37 PM

cool...

;)

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Temjin001
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:46:33 AM
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Any word on what Vita's MSRP for games will be?

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:21:16 PM

$39.99 US

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Jonesy555
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:11:52 PM
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Well, can't say that I'm not upset by this news (especially after that October 28th date that's been floating around), but I'm a patient man...as well as a broke one. Holiday money will allow me to buy a PSV and some games. For once, time will be my friend.

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:20:52 PM
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I bet it's so that Sony makes sure the launch line-up of games is awesome and to give developers more time with the system. This might be a good thing.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 12:33:42 PM

Indeed. Plus with all the new games coming this fall, this will be a nice break on my wallet. :)

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:17:49 PM

Yep, plus, tax rebate time is a good time to launch a $249.99 'nice to have' product in the US...

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:24:55 PM

There you go! Now I know what to spend my refund on. Thanks Highlander!

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:14:30 PM

Claire, I feel like I should already know this, but who is your avatar?

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 4:03:41 PM

Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop. ;)

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 4:14:07 PM

Thanks, I knew I knew the character. I don't watch a lot of Cowboy Beebop, but I do catch it occasionally. She just looked familiar.

Last edited by Highlander on 8/4/2011 4:15:10 PM

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:11:30 PM
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Damn I hate having to much hobbies, hahaha.
Money money money.

Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 8/4/2011 1:11:56 PM

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Claire C
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:21:15 PM

Is it Euro Invasion or Euro Envy Asian?

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StangMan80
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:35:35 PM

Yeah, I know what you mean. I been building a Mustang but there are games that I want to get. But obviously the money is gong into my Fox body Mustang first. :)
This is why I haven't been getting games I want.
I will have to wait out for Catherine and Madden 12. I hate that Madden is the only football game, NFL 2k5 is still better then Madden and EA sports better not extend there NFL license contract!!!

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Highlander
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 4:15:34 PM

@Claire,

Nice play on words.

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StangMan80
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:21:11 PM
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You can't have a delay when there was never a launch date. There for this in not a delay.

I think this was done because Sony wanted to make sure there is a great line up of games for it at launch. Games sale units.
And plus I agree with all of you who said that this 4th quarter is pact of games that we most have, and we can't afford to even get all the ones that we want, so holding out until a drought will move more units and on top of that a great line up of games will help a lot with that.

I just don't know if I will get it. I would like too, but I'm not a person who can sit on a couch and play a handheld, you mind as well use a TV then with a controller in your hand.
Plus, I'm needing a phone first. I had high hopes for the "PlayStation phone" but it didn't reach it and right now I don't see it meeting what I need. Sad.. But oh well.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:31:00 PM

"You can't have a delay when there was never a launch date. There for this in not a delay."

Right you are good sir! Some just have to look for any reason to dump on Sony no matter what. I think Sony learned from their abysmal PS3 launch. No software equals hardware sales. This is something Nintendo should have been able to avoid with the launch if the 3DS.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:35:59 PM

No software equals no hardware sales I mean.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:50:08 PM

i do agree sony did learn from the abysmal ps3 luanch. it is probably better to wait on software although i do wish sony had a system to challenge the 3ds this fall. that's when most of nintendo's sales happen. around christmas time. the 3ds will probably be in a lot stronger posistion when the vita does arrive.

if the software isn't ready then i guess it is okay, but i think it would have been preferable to go at nintendo when they were vulnerable. what's strange was psp was insanely popular in japan, but never really cuaght on here. i hope we do not see the same thing happen this time around.

i still think there is an oppurtunity for sony to pick up some marketshare since the 3ds has struggled.

@n4g nutcase please stop whining about the ps3's luanch. LOL! you are being a negative nancy. goo, goo. does not reflect well as a member of sony defense force.

Last edited by Excelsior1 on 8/4/2011 2:00:24 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:00:26 PM

"i do wish sony had a system to challenge the 3ds this fall."

Okay, see here is my problem with you are your comments. I'll be nice and explain as tactfully as I can.

Why does it matter so much? You say it doesn't matter but actions speak louder than words and all you have done is act as if this is some death match between hardware companies. Nintendo is not a threat to Sony nor is Sony a threat to Nintendo. They are different systems targeting different markets. There's room for both to be successful. There is not reason the Vita needs to "challenge" the 3DS. Those who want the Vita will get the Vita, those who want the 3DS will get the 3DS and those like me who want both will get both.

EDIT: you know I tried to be respectful like you asked, I rarely complain about the PS3 launch. Unlike you who has nothing to say other then whining REPEATEDLY about trivial nonsense like a petulant child.

How old are you? Just curious...

Last edited by Jawknee on 8/4/2011 2:02:13 PM

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:17:08 PM

i never said it mattered that much. just hoped sony would have a system to challenge the 3ds this fall. what is so wrong with that? it is no death watch. i do not think many are likely to get both. maybe sony has an oppurtunity here. i want sony to be number one in all categories and to have as much marketshare as possible. i don't see that as a bad thing.

you mentioned above how i whine about sony being in last place, etc. i am not going to lie . it has not been easy for me to accept that. it's frustrating as hell to watch a great system with a great exclusive line up finish in last place. i do not think i will ever be happy about that. maybe, in time i will learn to accept it, but i will always wonder why this has happened.

finally, is there anyway you and i can have a truce? i promise not call you names, and to be respectful. i do not have a problem wth what you say, it is the snide namecalling i dislike. it does not reflect well on the psxe community, and i would like for it to end please.

Last edited by Excelsior1 on 8/4/2011 2:19:42 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:34:34 PM

"i never said it mattered that much."

To which I replied..."actions speak louder than words and all you have done is act as if this is some death match between hardware companies." Which you have. Even in articles that have nothing do to with MS vs Sony(like the Sucker Punch thread) you still whine about it.

You say..."am not going to lie . it has not been easy for me to accept that. it's frustrating as hell to watch a great system with a great exclusive line up finish in last place. i do not think i will ever be happy about that. maybe, in time i will learn to accept it, but i will always wonder why this has happened."

To which I will reply again..."It's trivial nonsense. They are both great and successful companies. I wish success for BOTH! You whine about Sony always being behind, as if it's the end all be all if Sony."

"finally, is there anyway you and i can have a truce? i promise not call you names, and to be respectful. i do not have a problem wth what you say, it is the snide name calling i dislike. it does not reflect well on the psxe community, and i would like for it to end please."

Sure...I will stop giving you a hard time in the form is softball internet banter if it really bothers you that much but you are going to have to toughen up and except the fact that none of this stuff matters as much as you seem to think it does. You're an easy target Excelsior. Whining constantly about the same things over and over is going to attract negative feed back. I'm not the only one who is sick of reading it, I'm just the only one who is willing to say anything about it. And please don't lecture me about how this reflects the PSX community. I speak or myself and if I really was an "NG4 nutcase", I would have been banned along time ago.

With that said, Truce.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:35:03 PM

@jawk

thank you very much. truce here as well. nobody else here picks on me and 99.9% are respectful. i don't think namecalling is necessary, and won't do it again.

i do think sales matter. i don't think sony is going anywhere, but i do think those na numbers are a concern. i do not think it is a trivial matter at all. it distorts the industry, and has had a dramatic affect on japanese developers. i will try to toughen up about it, but i do worry about the overall health the industry as long as ms dominates here.

anyways, jawk thank you for accepting the truce. i feel much better now. i feel so good i gave you a thumbs up. peace.

Last edited by Excelsior1 on 8/4/2011 2:50:25 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:52:57 PM

If it doesn't matter than it shouldn't concern you as much as it seems to. I can agree with you that Japanese development is waning. I just don't think it all has to with MS's north American dominance. The PS3 is big in Europe and European developers are over taking Japanese just as much as North American developers. If Japanese developers end up on the wayside, they have no one to blame but themselves.

EDIT: No worries Excelsior. I don't hate you, I don't even dislike you, I just try and cut through the BS and I am not as tactful as I should be sometimes. I promise I won't give you such a hard time in the future. :)

Btw, I am not sure where you are from but here in the States Debbie Downer isn't a grave insult. It's generally used when one friend is telling another to brighten up. That's probably why it reminded you of Charile Brown. :)

Last edited by Jawknee on 8/4/2011 2:57:21 PM

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Carlight
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 1:54:59 PM
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I'll have to keep my psp a little longer I guess

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Wraith
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:02:48 PM
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Damn, I can't believe it's not being released this year. Why does japan get all the good stuff early? This is a terrible mistake by sony.

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gumbi
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 2:46:29 PM
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Well, I'm disappointed I wont be getting a Vita this year, but there's plenty enough going on to keep me busy in the mean time.

As for the 3DS, I don't think it warrants any real comparison in price. These are two entirely different devices aimed at entirely different markets. I don't know anyone who's torn over whether to get one or the other. And seriously? How can anyone complain about a $250 launch price for something so badass?

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:06:18 PM

Indeed. Vita a $250 is a great value. 3DS...not so much. Nintendo was wise in announcing a price cut.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:09:08 PM
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I feel bad for Ninty, they have development cycles on par with PC devs and can't come up with a single new idea for software. I love Ocarina of Time, but they really can't do any better after all these years? I think they had to cut the price because they know the software isn't there again and the gimmick isn't very good.

Vita is making a smarter move, instead of hoping to sell a lot of units on the gadget loving side of things they are going to wait until the software lineup is strong. The drawback is they miss holiday sales, but Sony has always been less about opportunism and more about quality over time.

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Jawknee
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 3:13:25 PM

I'm playing Wind Waker again right now. I love it! Skyward Sword is sure to be great as well but I do agree with you. They need to step it up a bit and start releasing more games. One new Metroid(which wasn't even that great) and one new Zelda in the Wii's 5 year cycle is unacceptable. Sony has already managed to released 2 Uncharted games, going on a third, two Killzone games and two inFamous games(which was a new IP) in the same amount of time.

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Fane1024
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 4:00:18 PM

...not to mention dozens of other quality first-party titles (and a handful of duds).

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 5:05:45 PM

It's just scary what COULD be done with Zelda and Metroid in the hands of a modern developer but isn't being done.

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FatherSun
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:14:43 PM

For Sony, slow and steady wins the race. Nintendo is just SLOW nowadays. They seem to be in a daze of some sorts.

As for the #3DS, the gimmick is actually good, but it is a Novelty. It is a shame but that word seems to define Nintendo more and more nowadays.

Damn, now I don't know if I want to go with getting a Vita imported from Japan. I don't want to pay up the ying if the games are not there. But I do want! Decisions decisions!

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Stabs88
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 7:17:14 PM
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Awwww man! Oh well...gives me alittle more time to save up some cash to throw down for the pre-order. And frees up my wallet for a few more games for the 4Q for PS3 =D so i guess im not too upset. Still looking forward to it!!

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sirbob6
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 7:53:18 PM
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Oh well, ever so disappointing.

So any guesses when it will land in the US/Europe?

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Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:01:27 PM
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Is it unfathomable that Sony have shifted release target dates to allow Nintendo an opportunity to succeed with the 3DS? It may be far fetched but considering how both companies have suffered devastating losses due to The Earthquake and the Japanese Gaming Industry in slight disarray it may be in Japans best interest for both companies to regain profitability.

Although I could not imagine a world without a Nintendo console. What if Nintendo and Sony collaborated? And actually pulled it off this time. Looking at the bigger picture Microsoft is more than just a thorn in their sides. Maybe not so much in Japan but a Sony/Nintendo team would eliminate that competition worldwide easily.

I actually see Nintendo's franchises on other platforms possibly in the next few years. Depending of the success of the Wii-U. I am skeptical that it will be a hit. It just doesn't appeal to me all that much for some reason. Or many reasons.

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tazdood1199
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:19:26 PM
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Disappointed face. :-(

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Qubex
Thursday, August 04, 2011 @ 11:46:51 PM
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I actually expected, I am not surprised. I think the combination of Nintendo slashing their price and Sony needing a really strong line of software to give gamers ample choice from the outset contributed to this.

They maybe using the Japanese market as a litmus test as well...

All in all, with the economics changing so fast, Sony again may have its work cut out for it. I want the Vita but I am going to wait for a price drop...

Even if I must wait until 2014... I will let the hardware and platform mature a bit... and enjoy my PS3 for now...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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___________
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 5:34:54 AM
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disappointing as it is, better to delay it and have heaps of stock and heaps of games and accessories for it, then to rush it out have limited stock and limited games and accessories.
a few months is not going to make much difference, and kaz did say it will be out in all regions by the end of the financial year which for sony ends march 31st.
so it wont be too much longer of a wait.
plus its region free so if you just have to buy one this year, then why not import it?

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nath08
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 7:11:02 AM
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What about UK and Europe, and Japan etc?

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Highlander
Friday, August 05, 2011 @ 8:52:20 PM

Japan - Holiday 2011

NA - early 2012

EU early 2012

The article kinda gives that away too with this; "The unit won't be available in time for Christmas in the US or Europe, although it's still expected to release in Japan this year."

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