Analyst: Vita Risks "Major Failure" Without Price Cut
Sony doesn't feel like reacting to Nintendo's 3DS price cut, but one analyst believes the Vita must fall in price or risk "major failure."
When Sony revealed that their new portable wouldn't be available in the US this year, Kaz Hirai told reporters that Nintendo's price slashing plans won't affect the Vita. He seemed convinced that the price is reasonable and affordable, especially considering what the Vita offers:
"We packed so much into the device and made it very affordable. There is no need to lower the price just because somebody else that happens to be in the video game business decided that they were going to lower their price."
But in speaking to Bloomberg, Ace Securities analyst Hideki Yasuda said consumers are actually expecting Sony to drop the price of the Vita.
"Gamers are increasingly anticipating Sony to lower prices, especially after the 3DS cut. Sony is under major pressure to cut the price of the Vita or risk a major failure."
There will be two versions of the PlayStation Vita; the 3G-enabled one will cost $299 while the one without 3G will hold a $249 price tag. This month, you'll be able to get the 3DS for as low as $169, although higher models do approach the Vita cost. But are both units catering to the same audience? Should Sony be worried about this price differential?
Tags: vita, playstation vita, vita price, sony
8/8/2011 12:29:08 PM Ben Dutka
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 6:12:16 PM
TheAgingHipster
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:40:10 PM
I'm worried that the price compared to the competition will keep people from buying the Vita, resulting in a Go-esque failure. But, generally speaking, the guys at Sony know what they're doing. Just need to keep my spirits up, ne?
BikerSaint
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:04:35 PM
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neighber
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 2:05:05 PM
Lawless SXE
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 2:21:06 PM
Stabs88
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 6:29:27 PM
Fane1024
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 4:19:05 AM
PHOENIXZERO
Thursday, August 11, 2011 @ 7:31:56 PM
Also, shouldn't we know by now that analyst are idiots? $249.99 is fine, Nintendo's price was just stupid and the 3D should have been no more than $200 at launch.
Temjin001
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:23:39 PM
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I think it's likely the Vita will offer the richest portable gaming experiences on the market for some time to come, so vita can be sold higher than 3Ds.
I just hope there's enough of an interested market there to support and sustain it's premium offerings. I'm not even certain if I will be interested enough in the Vita to ever purchase one.
Jawknee
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:28:26 PM
Temjin001
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 3:04:44 PM
Maybe Nintendo thought they'd capture the now more grown Nintendo fan from the DS era. I dunno
LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 4:25:39 PM
PHOENIXZERO
Thursday, August 11, 2011 @ 7:35:44 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-playstation-vita/715473
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-09-sonys-andrew-house-interview
http://psp.ign.com/articles/117/1177042p1.html
Hopefully I don't get flagged for spam or something. <_<
Jawknee
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:34:03 PM
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Cesar_ser_4
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:42:17 PM
Lawless SXE
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:35:15 PM
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Ultimadream
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:40:26 PM
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Oyashiro
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:57:27 PM
Jawknee
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 2:17:52 PM
Warrior Poet
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 2:32:10 PM
But yeah...other than Zelda there are really no 3DS games I want. The GameCube started this way too but now it's a great system - so again, we'll wait (and wait) and see. I just hope there's no Metroid for 3DS...then I'd have to get one eventually :P
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 3:40:53 PM
gumbi
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 1:44:41 PM
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Because of the 3DS? Get out! I'd wager that almost nobody is stuck in a toss up over which handheld to get. You'll want one, or the other, or both, and their respective good prices wont change that. I mean, $250 is still a seriously good launch price for what Vita has to offer. In fact, I wouldn't expect a price drop for a good while after launch.
"risk a major failure"? C'mon, what kind of analyst are you... *slap.
Excelsior1
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 2:29:36 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 2:49:33 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 3:08:14 PM
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Mamills
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 4:25:35 PM
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they should really cut the price by a bit.
i mean 299 for a handheld? (Thats PS3 Prices) yea ill stick to my iphone till i can grab that for cheap. (If i ever do, doubt i will. sorry i have better things to do than carry around 2 different devices to just play games.)
i know everyone here is a hardcore gamer so obviously we care about whats under the hood but lets face it. (WE ARE THE MINORITY.)
the real sales aint gonna start rolling in till its cheaper.
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Akuma07
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 6:14:17 PM
Fane1024
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 4:27:09 AM
Robochic
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 5:50:09 PM
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Hey Jawknee the 20 free games might not be worth it I have the 3ds and the list they gave me kinda sucks a little we'll see though their are a few good titles.
Jawknee
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 6:03:55 PM
Akuma07
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 6:18:46 PM
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Nintendo and Pokemon fans are the only people that will really buy the 3DS.
But then again, i think the Vita is only catering to PS fans, or even portable fans at large. Casual gamers don't seem interested in anything portable beyond their iPhones or Androids.
The price of the Vita is fine, if ANYONE asks for a price cut, just because nintendo cut theirs, is a fool. 3DS has nowhere near the same capabilities of the Vita. It's like comparing a Ford Fiesta and a Nissan GT-R. You CAN'T/wouldnt expect Nissan to lower the price of the GT-R if Ford dropped the fiesta would you?
poisonedsodapop
Friday, August 12, 2011 @ 10:04:25 AM
Only reason I'm holding off on Vita is I just dropped $250 on the 3DS and then the price dropped. That and I'm waiting for games that are gonna make me HAVE to have a Vita. Most of the stuff is coming to PS3 as well making it less worthwhile.
Akuma07
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 6:21:24 PM
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It should be noted that the 3DS isn't selling very well outside of the japanese market. It is possible he is basing his theory on the japan market.
So it could very well be, that people in the japanese market want a Vita cut, but that doesnt mean the rest of the world does.
I007spectre
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 7:02:42 PM
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___________
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 10:33:42 AM
thats like saying wow ford are selling more cars then Ferrari!
apple could release a turd in a cup and charge 200 bucks for it and it would fly off the shelf!
hell look at all the better phones on the market, not to mention cheaper and less restricted, and which ones still selling out?
thats right the more expensive, more restrictive, less capable one!
im the worlds biggest apple fan, but the popularity of there devices is just ridiculous!
Milonakis
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 7:48:26 PM
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FM23
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 7:57:00 PM
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Jawknee
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 2:51:18 PM
A2K78
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 8:36:59 PM
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Yes they should worried and why? To simpily put Nintendo is essentially using their leverage to draw Sony into a price war. To make matters worst the 3DS have been very profitable for Nintendo from the get-go and this in turn is going to put internal pressure on Sony to make the Vita a profitable product in a very short peroid of time.
"Vita the one that pressured Nintendo to make the cut"
Why should Nintendo be pressured to cut when their product essentially turned a profit from day 1? If anything is more of Nintendo putting pressure on Sony and we saw that by the fact Sony declaring they are selling the Vita at a loss. To make thing worst as I have already mentioned, Sony would be forced into a price war if they want keep pace with the 3DS.
FM23
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:07:24 PM
Oxvial
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:12:38 PM
FM23
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:18:59 PM
FM23
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:19:47 PM
Oyashiro
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:31:12 PM
Oxvial
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:33:13 PM
FM23
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 10:23:19 PM
Again gentlemen, I don't follow this financial gain/loss thing, so of course this information surprises me. Not everyone is informed about everything in the gaming world....remember. Just because your knowledgable of something doesn't mean the next man is also.
Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 12:20:24 AM
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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 11:31:01 AM
Jawknee
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 2:48:20 PM
Last edited by Jawknee on 8/9/2011 2:53:35 PM
danhese
Thursday, August 11, 2011 @ 11:44:16 AM
No company starts making a profit until at least 6 to 12 months into the launch of the device. You have to at least sell enough to cover your investment cost, parts and manufacturing cost, advertisement, packaging and shipping etc. Nintendo have cut the price just 6 months into the launch after they said they wont be cutting the price both by Iwata and Reggie.
As Bugzbunny109 said "it was no where near enough considering that they had to drop the price by $80; and their bosses had to take 20%-50% pay cuts". Not only that, they lost half a billion dollars following the price cut and according to Iwata, 3DS is selling at a loss (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/07/29/3ds_losses/)
niedao
Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:00:49 PM
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Monday, August 08, 2011 @ 9:28:07 PM
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1. There are no games for it. Ninty is mostly to blame for there archaic and well documented practices with 3rd party developers. When a port of a N64 game is your big system seller, that should be all the flags you need to notice something is wrong.
Many companies are canceling their 3DS games, and going as far as saying that they are unsure if it is profitable to develop for the system.
2. The hardware was ridiculously overpriced. Nintendo will never sell anything at a loss, but they feel its perfectly fine to sell a product at a high cost. Its reported that it takes about $106 to make a 3DS but decide to sell at $259. Its the exact opposite of Sony and Microsoft that are willing to sell at a loss.
All this amounts to the poor sales of the 3SD, thats why they slashed the price.
Nintendo CEOs have taken pay cuts in apologies to the share holders.
Sony doesn't look like it will have a anemic software lineup at launch. And its price is a fair one for the amount of tech that's packed in.
In other words no. The Vita does not need a price cut.
Oxvial
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 1:14:55 AM
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Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 10:31:26 AM
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Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 5:05:34 AM
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if it has a solid launch lineup then that price point should be fine.
though here it SERIOUSLY needs a price drop!
why were paying 400 bucks for the WIFI and 450 for the 3G version is beyond me!
hell 50 bucks more and i could get a 320GB ps3 WITH 4 games AND a extra controller AND a HDMI cable AND a bluray remote!
cant tell me the vita with 3G is worth only 50 bucks less then that!
Jawknee
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 @ 2:52:59 PM
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Thursday, August 11, 2011 @ 10:42:15 AM
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Ather
Thursday, August 11, 2011 @ 3:03:45 PM
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Unless these price droppers haven't looked at the specs, Sony has over vauled the Vita. One main thing to look for is, will the people use all the Vita offers? It's nice that Sony made such a wodnerful system, but if nobody wants what the Vita offers, it's autmoaticaly overpriced for what they will do with it.
If the Vita fails, it'll make Sony question the market, and stop proper innovation on future systems. Instead, Sony needs to relook at what consumers want, and what they offer them.
It doesn't matter what the value for price ratio is in Sony's eyes, it's what the people see it as. Sony might have over vauled their system by adding to it what people don't want. It'll be intresting to see how intial sales do. Is any right? Or are the price droppers? As much as people don't want to hear it, the 3DS sales willd etermine these things. If 3DS does much better, Sony will have to rethink the price drop. If not, Sony might simply have made a system most people don't want. No amount of "great value" offered will fix that.

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