Bossa Studios: Vita In Line For A "Premature Death"
See Full ImageMany are worried that in this new world of open platforms and virtual socializing, closed platforms like the PlayStation Vita could be in trouble.
After all, despite the fact that Sony's new portable is super advanced from a video game perspective, playing games on our cell phones is a big deal now. ...and the Vita isn't a phone. It can interact with the PlayStation 3 but overall, guys like Bossa Studios head man Henrique Olifiers say it's just behind the times.
In fact, in speaking with VideoGamer, Olifiers says the Vita could "suffer a horrible premature death."
"We'll keep on the lookout to see what the next gen will bring, but if they want more focus on tech specs rather than usability and accessibility, I don't think it will be for us. I hate the fact you cannot play a game on the PS3 against the same game on the 360 or PC. Walled gardens in a world where people are freely connected all the time is just a dumb idea that limits what is achievable."
He added that "proprietary stuff is madness," and the industry should be moving more towards "open platforms, interoperability, bringing everyone together." He also warns that if the big console manufacturers aren't willing to embrace this brave new world, they could all be in very big trouble. That definitely includes the Vita, which launches this month in Japan and on February 22 in North America.
Well, we certainly understand his sentiment, but we get the feeling that all these makers of little social titles don't quite get the following fact: gamers don't view those as games. They really don't. It's something to fiddle with on the train, but when at home, gamers will not be tooling around on their phones when Uncharted 4 is sitting in their PS4. Or whatever.
As for the Vita, that's different because it's a portable device. We've got no prediction on that.
Tags: vita, playstation vita, social gaming, gaming industry
12/15/2011 8:45:40 PM Ben Dutka
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Comments (53 posts)
Neo_Aeon666
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 4:57:55 PM
This guy is a joke. He certainly has an Iphone and ranks with the top angry birds players. Playing games on phone is crap to real gamers or nothing more than a small time killer. When the Vita launches there will be no way in hell I ever play a game on my smartphone again. He's talking about connectivity... How about a real platform that will actually let you continue some of your real home games on the go? It will also pretty much feature all social networks and you can even skipe. Even 3G options...
Only diff: Its not a *polyvalent phone* its a *polyvalent gaming machine* and what it does best are games and is aimed at people looking for similar to real home gaming experiences in the palm of their hands.
I seriously hope that guy rots in the depths of hell! lol
Last edited by Neo_Aeon666 on 12/16/2011 5:07:28 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 9:42:12 PM
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OK, well, in between asking Who the heck is this guy, and what has he ever done that entitles him to opine on the Vita, and just before wondering why the gaming world is paying more than a nanosecond's worth of attention to him, I have to wonder how the hell does he come to that conclusion? Mobile gaming is bigger than ever.
Oh well, just one more flash game script kiddy throwing their toys out of the pram again?
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BikerSaint
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:26:59 PM
And in a interview a few days ago, he stated that he now wanted to make the 1st FaceBook game masterpiece in history.
So sorry there, Ueda, but I don't do FB, so I'll never be buying another one of your games after TLG.
Last edited by BikerSaint on 12/15/2011 11:27:37 PM
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ZenChichiri
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 12:00:50 AM
Climb the social giant and hit it at its weak point: Mark Zuckerberg. Your life bar is determined by how many friends you have. Your grip meter depends on how many friend requests you've sent to participate in the game. Kill the 10 most famous people on Facebook to reach the final boss, Mark Zuckerberg:
1)Nicole Richie
2)Paris Hilton
3)Hilary Duff
4)Andrea Corr
5)Shayne Wards
6)Dominic Purcell
7)Amy Winehouse (oops)
8)Jeremy Clarkson
9)Piers Morgan
10)Murray Newlands
Surprise ending! After killing Mark Zuckerberg and the ten most famous people on facebook you are now the most famous! Now everyone wants to kill you!
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ZettaiSeigi
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 1:25:21 AM
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ZenChichiri
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 1:40:46 AM
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WolfCrimson
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 9:02:42 AM
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Ludicrous_Liam
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 1:10:29 PM
/devils advocate
(common where are you BoomBeam!?)
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Beamboom
Sunday, December 18, 2011 @ 6:07:17 AM
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supremekai
Sunday, December 18, 2011 @ 10:50:44 AM
it's not Fumito Ueda, it's the excutive producer of TLG, Yoshifusa Hayama, that went to Bossa.
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PasteNuggs
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 9:44:27 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 9:54:23 PM
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PasteNuggs
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 10:52:32 PM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:50:09 PM
The world needs gaming devices like Vita. Sure, iPhone is good for time wasting little fun games, but Vita is high quality stuff, and offers complete control over games. I can't even play GTA Chinatown Wars on my iPhone, the controls are terrible!!!
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BikerSaint
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:53:21 PM
Bossa Studios is a new Games company Shoreditch, London UK.
Led by four veterans from the games, entertainment and mobile industries.
Their very 1st game, was just released Facebook last month.
https://apps.facebook.com/monstermind
Specialties
(Saint's note: I don't do FaceBook, so I can't make comment on the game itself"
Also, Henrique_Olifiers who is the loud-mouth that's running Bossa Studio, along with his big mouth, is a Brazilian web-based games designer with 30 games.
A lot more on his history right here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_Olifiers
Last edited by BikerSaint on 12/15/2011 11:59:43 PM
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___________
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 3:46:17 AM
take away the touch pad controls and i could swear i was playing them on a new portable!
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TheAgingHipster
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 8:55:54 AM
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Metallisnake
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 9:47:52 PM
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Then there will be no competitions, no inovation and stale. We need the heated battles between Sony, Microsoft, and nintendo so they can deliver differet experiences. Same experience is a no no. With this mentality they should just close shop and go to developer hell.
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Warrior Poet
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 10:15:51 PM
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Cpt_Geez
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 10:31:01 PM
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shadowpal2
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 10:36:39 PM
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Now...the real question here is if he's ever heard of handheld gaming in Japan? Because...trust me...you bring up the idea of "gaming with a smartphone" there, they can't help but laugh while they're spending 50+ hours a week on Monster Hunter with all their friends there.
Handheld gaming still has a long future ahead of it. And trust me some people want a device that IS NOT A COMPLETE MULTIMEDIA DEVICE. For a phone...I just want a phone that can take pictures, make calls, and browse the web. As for music and videos...I want a completely separate device...probably the Sony Walkman Z that will come out in a bit. And then for GAMING...A PS VITA OR A 3DS.
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GuardianMode
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:12:14 PM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:46:53 PM
Get Sony to give him one for free, and what's the bet he'll change his tune about the Vita.
Also, now that Vita has touch controls, porting iPhone and Android games should be incredibly easy. Here's hoping only the best games reach Vita, there is so much shovelware on iPhone and Android, it's rediculous!!
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Yukian
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:20:19 PM
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I would very much like to play with and against 360 and PC gamers... if I remember correctly, I played FFXI on my PS2 while there were PC and 360 gamers... you had more chance to find people to party without restriction (provided you had the current expansion and sadly, that happened to me... :[ )
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Beamboom
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 2:49:32 AM
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Rogueagent01
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 4:49:56 AM
As far as Bossa Studios is concerned, all I thought while reading this was who the heck are you and why in the world would you make comments like this. After reading some of the comments above I see Ueda went there and I think that will be a huge mistake for him in the long run. Facebook games to me are not games they are annoying marketing tools. "Help me with my Farm", "Here is a gift", "So and So reached level 50 in Mafia Wars" I don't think they could come up with a more annoying way to play a "game" if they can even be called that. STOP asking for my help I don't like you, lol.
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Snaaaake
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:21:27 PM
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Sure, we have iOS and Android getting more and more video games support but that isn't going to shake handheld gaming.
This guy doesn't even understand the passion we VIDEO GAMERS have for video games.
And one question, what the heck is Bossa Studio?
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:44:27 PM
iPhone is great for little fun games like Angry Birds, Plants Vs Zombies and Cut the Rope, but the big production games will be best played on a Vita, not a phone.
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Snaaaake
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 12:38:30 AM
From watching the footage, I'm already shaking my head.
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leatherface
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:24:22 PM
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Rogueagent01
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 4:54:13 AM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:36:53 PM
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My Vita was already paid off almost 3 months ago, so how's about you get back to me in a year's time & see just where your idiotic statement stands by then.
***WARNING***
Just be forewarned that by that time I'll not only be laughing behind your back, I'll be the telling you to "F*CK OFF", and right up in your face!
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:42:01 PM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 11:40:17 PM
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By his logic, iPhone games should be fully compatible with Windows 7 and Android phones when it comes to multiplayer, and all handheld devices should be phones with games on them.
He completely misses the millions of hardcore gamers worldwide looking for a mini-PS3 in their bags that they can take with them.
Not only that, but the Vita has more cross-compatibility with being able to play against PS3 owners than other platforms, like PS3 and PC cross compatibility on Steam with Portal 2, or 360 and PC cross compatiblity with Shadowrun.
Soooo... the Vita will die because it has better specs than an iPhone, 2 analog sticks, both physical and digital media, better games for hardcore players, casual and popular games like Angry Birds, AND has social networking features like an iPhone but without the ability to make phone calls.
Let me guess... this Olifiers guy develops casual games for iPhone and Android. No wonder I've never heard of Bossa. :P
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Beamboom
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 1:40:12 AM
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Of course there are hardcore Playstation gamers who find this device to be *perfect* for them. It will always be like that. And many of them are of course found on Playstation fan sites.
The entire question is: Is this group large enough for Sony to make money on Vita? Cause if not, this product will be a failure for Sony, no matter how good those who bought it thought it was. It really is that simple.
The rest of the computing world has *finally* started to talk together, creating products based on established standards and interoperation. Vita on the other hand is inaccessible on practically every level: Closed hardware running a closed OS using closed tools in a closed network.
I do of course understand Sonys business logic behind this, but it is just SO last decade.
Will I get me a Vita? I probably will, out of my pure fascination for Sony products in general. I am one of those mentioned Sony/Playstation fans. But it will not be without a sour taste in my mouth, thinking about what Vita *could* have been. And it will definitely not be a first day purchase.
Last edited by Beamboom on 12/16/2011 8:20:49 AM
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___________
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 3:44:44 AM
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M$, sony and ninty would never allow cross play and there not going anywhere any time soon!
i wish we could play cross platform, even better have cross platform saves that way you can start playing a game on say your ps3 then go somewhere else and continue on your PC.
thats whats stopping me from getting skyrim on the PC.
spent 20 hours in skyrim on my ps3, no way in hell im starting all over again!
well, that and its so buggy i dont want to waste my money, time, and risk damaging my PC!
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Mamills
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 4:57:16 AM
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apparently its all the rave with kids. but im sorry, i have some prof colleagues on facebook. i dont really care for them to know my achievements in games.
i have my facebook features disabled for PS3. and i even had steam check to see who of friends had their facebook and games linked. didnt find anyone.
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parasitic
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 5:29:48 AM
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BikerSaint
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 7:06:29 PM
Bejeweled 3 FTW, LOL
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SmokeyPSD
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 7:05:39 AM
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It will NOT be cheap for the base console alone, take into account how things are priced in Australia, and as I wanted the 3g model it wouldnt even work locally if I imported.
Instead of a much needed fix for someone like me who already has a large digital library of games across multiple psn accounts it will not have multiple activations. Unless ofcourse wait for it, I choose to buy 2 brand new cards, which leads into my next point.
The new format system itself. Proprietary with no added incentives whatsoever. I am not getting anymore space to play with than I do currently with my PSP with a memory stick duo at 32gig. I was expecting more space, for a new console which will need more space for games with a greater definition. It is a joke, yes there is new security on it but that helps sony and hinders me. It will be cracked anyway so there really is no added incentive for anyone when you get down to it.
So for me to work effectively with a Vita and my current library I will need pay a huge sum to have the console itself and2 cards, which I don't even want to carry around an extra card. That's the whole point of buying digital. To have a truly portable system. Even if I intended to I'm not paying over $800 which I would on the vita on arrival, that would even be before even being able to think about games.
From day one, to probably not even buying so I can parallel his thoughts, proprietary is madness. Perhaps not thinking quite the same he is but it is. The PS3 got it all right. Linux, usb, the harddrive. Even the PS3 is tarnished with other OS taken away now. If you create an open environment it nurtures rather than hinders growth and also doesn't limit options. So it's great from a development point of view and a hardware spec point of view.
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zabak74
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 8:05:29 AM
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Underdog15
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 10:20:31 AM
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As for the Vita, whether or not it's massive here, it will be big in Japan, you can count on that.
I also think people like me would game on a Vita over a phone anyday.
I play on my PSP already.
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Coffeya
Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 9:36:11 PM
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Beamboom
Sunday, December 18, 2011 @ 6:21:32 AM
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luisliu
Sunday, December 18, 2011 @ 5:06:04 AM
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Saber1989
Sunday, December 18, 2011 @ 12:01:08 PM
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The Xperia Play was innovative, involved better mobile games with Android operating system with connectivity to PS3. The Vita, is upgraded hardware from the PSP, but it would have been better if it build up on the Xperia Play. I am sure the Vita would be great, but in this day and age we are moving to a single digital device, PS3 and XBOX, phones are becoming more and more like PCs, a digital hub for all of our entertainment (music, pictures, movies, games, etc..) So this developer has his merits
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Gravelight
Sunday, December 18, 2011 @ 3:00:26 PM
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main_event05
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Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 9:40:24 PM